Dr Greenthumbs G13

I have been buying seeds from Greenthumb for years. He's the ONLY breeder I trust now. Gone are the days when you could trust Greenhouse or any other number of Amsterdam banks, you never know what you're going to get now ...if you get anything at all. Doc has never lied to me. Everything I got and grew was "as advertised", so I beleieve him when he says it's G13 and no matter what you say, it is the biggest most vigourous plant I have ever seen. It was the same we he came out with Bubba Kush. Everyone on the forums carped and screamed and said it was a fake but it was not. They said Doc's OG was a fake but it is not. They said Chemdawg was a fake but it is not. They said Trainwreck was a fake but it is not. They said Sour Diesel was a fake and so on. Add to that Doc's S1s are all 100% feminized and no one has ever had hermie plants from Doc's fems that I know of and you begin to understand why other seedbanks and their minions are pissed off and HATE Greenthumb. He does a better job
But yet you fail to prove how you know this to be fact!!!
 

tip top toker

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He said exodus cheese was exodus cheese yet he can't supply a photo that looks the remostest bit like exodus cheese.. I dislike greenthumb (until shown a reason not to) for the same reason i dislike greenhouse, they lie. If i didn't happen to have the actual exodus cheese, i'd be like anyone else and just take it as given, but unfortunately i know how it grows, and know that he's not posting a picture of exodus :) same with greenhouse.
 

frmrboi

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If i didn't happen to have the actual exodus cheese, i'd be like anyone else and just take it as given, but unfortunately i know how it grows, .
How doYOU know you have the actual Exodus ?
The fact that it's sold out and we've not had a string of complainers step forward and say they grew it and where disapointed at the results says more than a stinkin' picture.

But yet you fail to prove how you know this to be fact!!!
Just like tou failed to PROVE only a strain with ruderalis in it can be called an autoflowering strain.
Now get back tou your great life and government job.
 

tip top toker

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Because i do :) i know where it came from, Englands not that big a country :D

It is also the case that it's sold out and we don't have a single person that i can find verifying that it is exodus cheese or even just a growlog, that's stranger than stories of complaints."Unusual cheesy smell" lolol cheese doesn't smell of cheese. LOL.
 

frmrboi

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Because i do :) i know where it came from, Englands not that big a country :D

It is also the case that it's sold out and we don't have a single person that i can find verifying that it is exodus cheese or even just a growlog, that's stranger than stories of complaints."Unusual cheesy smell" lolol cheese doesn't smell of cheese. LOL.
that's it ?
you have faith 'cause you live in the country it was developed ?
Wow, well then the Doc MUST be a liar "cause he lives in Canada.
 

tip top toker

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that's it ?
you have faith 'cause you live in the country it was developed ?
Wow, well then the Doc MUST be a liar "cause he lives in Canada.
Mine is a clone of exodus cheese, hardly an impossibility, it came from the people who discovered and named the pheno, clones of exodus are totally legit. Names are known. Greenthumb on the otherhand is trying to sell something noone else has managed to achieve, then advertising it with both photo's and descriptions that beat no relevance to exodus cheese :) The world already knows what exodus cheese looks like it, noone seems to know what his exodus cheese looks like, other than his bogus photograph.. just like greenhouse. And yes, if you live in a small coutry it's a lot easier to find things and to track down origins than living in a fuck off big continent. Example being america doesn't seem to know where half of it's fantastic clone only pheno's really came from, exodus cheese we know exactly where it came from.
 
Mine is a clone of exodus cheese, hardly an impossibility, it came from the people who discovered and named the pheno, clones of exodus are totally legit. Names are known. Greenthumb on the otherhand is trying to sell something noone else has managed to achieve, then advertising it with both photo's and descriptions that beat no relevance to exodus cheese :) The world already knows what exodus cheese looks like it, noone seems to know what his exodus cheese looks like, other than his bogus photograph.. just like greenhouse. And yes, if you live in a small coutry it's a lot easier to find things and to track down origins than living in a fuck off big continent. Example being america doesn't seem to know where half of it's fantastic clone only pheno's really came from, exodus cheese we know exactly where it came from.
That's not entirely true. Greenthumb seeds was the first to feminize Cheese but there are others now with legit s1s of the Cheese
 

tip top toker

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That's not entirely true. Greenthumb seeds was the first to feminize Cheese but there are others now with legit s1s of the Cheese
Pleanty of people have feminized cheese but none was ever able to bring out the traits of the mother. That is from what i have read, if someone has made a breakthrough with some photos and that lot, i'd love to read it. But from what i know at present, none has managed to make E seeds that have turned out like the mother. Noone seems to want to put any proof up, i'm not sure why considering that they'd sell like fire, also confused why he has never been able to get them abck in stock or why he wouldn't.

What i also don't understand, is why someone who has boguht his G13 or whatever does not simply

As i say though, just the fact that he's describing it as smelling of cheese makes me laugh a bit.
 

Brick Top

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Originally Posted by Brick Top
There are no truth in advertising laws covering cannabis strains and advertisements. If there were there wouldn't be 30-some genetically 'White Widow' strains or any of any other of the many knockoff strains. It would clearly be a case of false advertising and Shantibaba could have kept using the name and sued ever breeder who used it or he could have changed the name and Green House Seeds could have sued every breeder who used it or someone could sue a breeder. Have you ever heard of that happening? I doubt it, because there are no truth in advertising laws that cover cannabis strains. There is no legal copyright protection for cannabis and there is no laws stating that something has to be what it is claimed to be.. Look at Green House Seeds Bubba Kush. Genetically it's not anything at all like the original Bubba Kush ... but it carries the name .. and no one can sue over it.

That is why Dr. Greenthumb was able to sell his fake Acapulco Gold and the other fakes in his heritage line and now his fake G13 without getting sued.



There is no proof any strain, released from any breeder, is what they claim.
Does that mean they are all fakes an liars for selling them?
What I said means precisely what it said in regards to what it was a reply to. There are no truth in advertising laws regarding cannabis strains and there is no legal ownership of names or genetic combinations so any breeder can do as say as they want, not matter how misleading or dishonest it might be when it comes to accuracy of the description of their products or what is in them and no one can do anything beyond either purchasing them or deciding to not purchase them. People are unable to sue the way the example in the message I replied to mentioned suing.

Breeders are free to do and say as they please and the honest ones treat their customers fairly and the others rip their customers off. That is the nature of the business.
 

londonfog

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I've never used a mini bic in my life, so i will naturally regard it as a regular lighter, 3 inches long or whatever. If he put a quater next to the plant, no, i would not give a shit, i know how big a quater is... feeling was kinda way off there. When you are using an item as a point of reference for scale you use a common standard item that everyone will know and be able to compare to. Say what you will i see it as misleading. If he put a silver dollar instaed of a quater, i would quite possbily bitch, i've no fucking clue what a silver dollar is like or what size it is etc. And it's kinda easy to tell when people are faking scales... like really easy :D my brain is not that mashed up.
I say put a coke can or a beer bottle up...Most people look for something big to compare not a freakin mini lighter...WTF
 

Brick Top

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He said exodus cheese was exodus cheese yet he can't supply a photo that looks the remostest bit like exodus cheese.. I dislike greenthumb (until shown a reason not to) for the same reason i dislike greenhouse, they lie. If i didn't happen to have the actual exodus cheese, i'd be like anyone else and just take it as given, but unfortunately i know how it grows, and know that he's not posting a picture of exodus :) same with greenhouse.
He cannot because it is not the real Exodus Cheese.

The Original UK Cheese


Below is some information about Cheese from Sam the Skunkman, who is widely credited with the introduction of Skunk #1 to Holland.



Originally posted by Sam the Skunkman

DocLeaf,
"Cheese = Skunk #1 [Sensi Seed Bank B.V.]
Credit were credits due folks. Sensi Seeds are the breeders of this cultigen.
It's not like the LGA are going to start accrediting 'Cheese' to some twat at a clone club... Now is it"

As far as I know UK CHEESE was selected from Skunk#1 seeds I made. They were bought from Neville, taken to the UK and CHEESE was a clone selected from the grow.
No one bred a CHEESE, it was selected from a Skunk #1 grow.
I got this from the guy who bought the seeds, took them to the UK, named it CHEESE, and the rest is history.
Also I can guarantee CHEESE is a pure Skunk #1, the first time I smelled the UK CHEESE clone I said it was pure Skunk #1, I met the grower later and he confirmed it to me.
Here area few pictures of strains claimed to be Exodus Cheese. None look like the original, do they?












Again, the original UK Cheese for comparison
 

Dr Gruber

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Its kind of hard to tell...all the pictures you posted are in Flower and the "real" one looks to be trimmed and cut or is it????

Hey Tip Top, can you post a picture of the one you have to compare to the "real" one Brick posted?

Now, before anyone jumps on me ...I am really just asking a question, not trying to be a dickhead.lol
 

a dog named chico

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I honestly think the last pic has almost the same buds as the control but not the extremely dusted, also the 2nd pic has the color but it's hard to make out the buds to compare. 1 and 3 are nothing close to the control IMO...I also agree with Dr., the control pic looks trimmed...not trying to start shit just calling it like i see it
 

stonedmetalhead1

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Its kind of hard to tell...all the pictures you posted are in Flower and the "real" one looks to be trimmed and cut or is it????

Hey Tip Top, can you post a picture of the one you have to compare to the "real" one Brick posted?

Now, before anyone jumps on me ...I am really just asking a question, not trying to be a dickhead.lol

That's the problem with Cheese. That pic that brick posted was from a grow where the original grower didn't take any clones, I remember seeing it when it was originally posted. Cheese came around after the OG epidemic and was the UK's answer for a over-hyped plant. So while none are probably the original cut there are cut's called cheese that are out there and are pretty decent like the exodus cheese. So while the story might be BS, just like G13, there are cuts that have gained the name Cheese.
 

tip top toker

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Other than the whiteness of it i've seen plenty of cheese plants that come out looking fairly similar to the original. I agree in that that plant has ben trimmed and manicured, i'm just trying to work out the scale of it, certainly not that big, might just be me but that photo almost seems to be trying to make out that it's huge, it confuses me a bit, looks just like a couple of colas, but then the stuff in the BG makes it appear huge for some reason.
 
People talk shit but do not have no proof they even grow anything..like fagboy and ogman oh and of course biggybuds...Always putting up a smoke report saying they did this and that but where is the journal t back it all up????
 

Dr Gruber

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original-






Greenthumb-


Dont you guys think the bud structure looks a lot alike?
I know the picture color is very different from shot to shot but it looks more like the "real" picture then the rest of them....??????
 

tip top toker

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Yeah, i see lots of foxtailing on greenthumbs... don't appear anything like each other. Also failing to see any double seration. Both strong characteristics of the cheese.
 
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