Earth Juice

LogHead said:

hey john thanks man for real it helps. i heard theres not a lot of burning with these nutes but DAMN! 3 hits of nutes then 1 water all throughout grow? does it affect the taste, well i suppose not they're organic. i'm not saying i'll follow that completely but it gives me a better idea. hmm, so no problems at all with that setup? no bad burn or taste to bud? hows the smoke?

Click to expand...

this is my first time using the veg but ive used the bloom a few times.ive been usings these nutes together for a couple weeks and no prblems at all.and if you give a good 2 week flush then it wont affect the taste at all.i will say this though,that alaska fish veg is some nasty smelling shit,but the plants love it
and like i said experiment to find out what works best for you,theres alot of variabals,strains,lights,exhaust,co2,temps,nutes,ext.everybody gets slightly diffrent results

LogHead said:

hey john thanks man for real it helps. i heard theres not a lot of burning with these nutes but DAMN! 3 hits of nutes then 1 water all throughout grow? does it affect the taste, well i suppose not they're organic. i'm not saying i'll follow that completely but it gives me a better idea. hmm, so no problems at all with that setup? no bad burn or taste to bud? hows the smoke?

Click to expand...

These nutes are not very strong and i also , water, nutes, nutes, nutes, water, with NO problems ......... but just like most foods it alters the ph bigtime, THAT WILL HURT UM , but the nutes will not burn um .
I use 1 1/2 TB of grow- 1 TB of bloom - 1 tsp of metaK - 1/2 tsp of microblast ( once in 2 weeks for the micro) and 2 tsp of catalyst (once a week on cat)

If you guys are using organic soil with dolomite lime added to it you shouldn't have to adjust the PH. The Dolomite lime will buffer it out once it's in the soil.

Surfr said:

If you guys are using organic soil with dolomite lime added to it you shouldn't have to adjust the PH. The Dolomite lime will buffer it out once it's in the soil.

Click to expand...

you are right on that one .............but apparently the dolomite was too old or somthin as soon as i started using ph up , they started lookin better. my water starts at 7.0 to 7.5 and with the EJ nutes mixed (for bloom) the ph is 4.6 to 5.0 , now I dont have a problem with that but i think the lime does .... it dont seem to be workin on this batch........My promix is either 2 years old or it expired 2 years ago ... so i just figured that is why my ph was fucked up soo bad .... the only other thing i can think of is the microbes had all died in the old dirt , so i also added more but that was after i started fixing my ph.....? so i am still very confused on this whole deal. I have made it through several grows with MG potting mix , blood meal, and bone meal .. and never tested anything and always used tap water w/NO problems until now..... and really the only thing i have changed is going to the EJ nutes?
im not sure but i think i got it figured out now , my tap water is just fucked where i am at ... so i'll go from there.

Have you checked what the PH of the run off water is?

Surfr said:

Have you checked what the PH of the run off water is?

Click to expand...

ran 6.8 through the pot and the run off was 6.4 so i dont know

i do know that dolomite lime is a natural ph up (but will only go up so far) so i would guess an say the lime is not working for some reason ? So i am gonna get some fresh lime to mix in with the promix next time .... and i have some microbes to add to the new ones (in that expired dirt) so maybe that will help too. as for the ones in bloom right now , they are just now at 4 weeks and for the last 2 weeks they were locked up or close to it (barely eatin shit) but the last 5 or 6 days they have been gettin their dark green back (in buds only , the fan leaves are almost gone already) so I KNOW they will finish up but i still dont know whats causeing this major set back?

here is a link with most of my info in it : https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/207026-i-feel-like-newb-please.html

Peace. I too am using the EJ products and I wondered about raising the pH of the solution. Don't have up or down but I do have baking soda and vinegar. Will this be good enough to add to the EJ nutes to adjust pH?

wyteboi said:

ran 6.8 through the pot and the run off was 6.4 so i dont know

i do know that dolomite lime is a natural ph up (but will only go up so far) so i would guess an say the lime is not working for some reason ? So i am gonna get some fresh lime to mix in with the promix next time .... and i have some microbes to add to the new ones (in that expired dirt) so maybe that will help too. as for the ones in bloom right now , they are just now at 4 weeks and for the last 2 weeks they were locked up or close to it (barely eatin shit) but the last 5 or 6 days they have been gettin their dark green back (in buds only , the fan leaves are almost gone already) so I KNOW they will finish up but i still dont know whats causeing this major set back?

here is a link with most of my info in it : https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/207026-i-feel-like-newb-please.html

Click to expand...

Hmmm maybe you had a salt build up? Did you try to flush them at all??

Surfr said:

Hmmm maybe you had a salt build up? Did you try to flush them at all??

Click to expand...

yes i did , but they were locked up so the flushing just made it worse till they finally drank all the water. i know for sure they were locked out , i just cant figure out exactly why? last bloom they were the same way, nice and healthy until about 1st or 2nd week of bloom , then they start locking up , and last time they just fixed theirselves around week 3 .......... this time they are looking better at week 4 but not NEAR what they would have been without the "problem"
(my soil is sterile so i have to add all the nutes except microblast and thats because my water is over 700 ppm on the tds meter!) and my water is another thing that i am guessing is a problem............

BLACKMESSIAH7 said:

Peace. I too am using the EJ products and I wondered about raising the pH of the solution. Don't have up or down but I do have baking soda and vinegar. Will this be good enough to add to the EJ nutes to adjust pH?

Click to expand...

soda and vinegar is not stable so i would go with EJ's natural ph up or if u add the right amount of dolomite lime to the soil before u plant then it will "buffer" it up to where it needs to be. (most soil/soiless mediums are made up of mostly peat and i believe peat holds a very low ph and then most organic nutes lower the ph too so i guess if u factor the 2 together then u have a MAJOR need for "up" or lime ..............

thanks to all and +reps for stealing my thread! NOT, i'm just kidding guys this is good info. hey wyteboi, u should just buy water from the store in those big gallons. tap water will make or brake your crop sometimes depending on how bad the water is. some plants don't mind, while others are so damn finicky. i think it would help though, as for the ph i would go with ej's natural ph up or down. i'm thinking of buying some different nutes these seem to have alot of problems. i haven't started yet but i don't know if i'll use these considering how many problems everyone is having. but they say sometimes, less is more. so maybe using less nutrients and a more nutrient rich soil will solve the problems. do you airate your solution?(waterpump, bubblestone) i hear they work better if you do that before feeding

to anybody: what are some of your methods to fertilizing (all organic super soil with water only added or a mix of nutes and organic soil example)

LogHead said:

i just purchased earth juice grow(2-1-1), catalyst, and bloom(0-3-1). they are all Organic Materials Review Institute (OMRI) approved. in a medium consisting of 3 parts soil, 1 part perlite, 1 part vermiculite, 1 part worm castings, what would be a good nutrient regime to follow? oh i also purchased some alaskan fish fertilizer(5-1-1)what watering schedule would be nutes, water, nutes, water water. water every 5 days or so because the soil i'm assuming will be light and easy draining, with rocks and sand at the bottom of the pot for even better drainage. oh and also would 3 gallon pots be fine for mature plants about 3 to 4 ft tall? or is that more the 5 gallon department? thanks to all that reply, it would be nice for quick responses b/c i want to set up as quick as possible, but need some feedback

Click to expand...

Sounds like you're planning to do exactly what I'm doing. See my grow in my sig

nice man looks kickass i'll check it out!

You guys using earth juice and saying that your plants are yellowing out dont realize that just because the bottle says "grow" doesnt mean that you use it for the veg cycle then dont use it in flower just to get that clear. Add some grow and some bloom to get the right mix I mean common guys trying to say the nutes are bad when you arnt capable of common sence that you could add some GROW witch has nitrogen to your next water.

Its not the nutes its you not doing research and bad mouthing companys. To get it strait earth juice makes good nutes and just like almost every other nute company its a TWO part not a ONE part. Witch means you use two parts to get the correct feeding your plant needs in all cycles.

Hey snail your 100% when you say that you have to mix the two because the ej bloom is a no nitrogen solution.i'll give em a run. i've had a few encouraging and a few bad comments from people as you can tell on the ej nutes. i really want to use them, i already paid for them. i'm going to do a mixture between my alaska fish fert, ej grow, ej bloom, and ej catalyst. i'm going to also purchase the ej microblast, meta-k, and ph up and down, it only seems necessary to get the whole line. the soil would probably just be regular potting soil, perlite, and worm castings, 1/2 perlite 1/2 soil with some worm castings sprinkled on the top. with a good draining pot(gravel at the bottom) probably 3-5 gallon by the end of flowering with transplanting throughout.

snail240 said:

You guys using earth juice and saying that your plants are yellowing out dont realize that just because the bottle says "grow" doesnt mean that you use it for the veg cycle then dont use it in flower just to get that clear. Add some grow and some bloom to get the right mix I mean common guys trying to say the nutes are bad when you arnt capable of common sence that you could add some GROW witch has nitrogen to your next water.

Its not the nutes its you not doing research and bad mouthing companys. To get it strait earth juice makes good nutes and just like almost every other nute company its a TWO part not a ONE part. Witch means you use two parts to get the correct feeding your plant needs in all cycles.

Click to expand...

i have not seen anyone here "badmouth" the company ..... just folks that have either tried it or are using it. I have also not seen anyone on here that are not using N during flower ........ NOR IS EJ A 2 PART system "like the rest of them" , there are very FEW 2 part foods ..... not in the pot world anyways


so were u just pissed at the world when u typed this shit ? <----- follow his advise....

I stop my grow about two weeks into flower and substitute jamaican guano and tiger bloom.A little grow will stop your nitrogen problems..peace

LogHead said:

probably 3-5 gallon by the end of flowering with transplanting throughout.

Click to expand...

NO transplanting during bloom , it is just unnecessary ruffness . I am using all the EJ food . but dont have the natural up yet. i am using GH up at the moment but its not organic so i'll switch ...... and if u add some dolomite lime with your mix it would be dam near perfect, the lime should raise the ph enough without using ph up at all.
i will go a couple more runs before i give up on the EJ nutes and if they do alright then i'll stick with um. the ingredients are GREAT , its just a matter of figuring out how to use them perfect.

wyteboi said:

i have not seen anyone here "badmouth" the company ..... just folks that have either tried it or are using it. I have also not seen anyone on here that are not using N during flower ........ NOR IS EJ A 2 PART system "like the rest of them" , there are very FEW 2 part foods ..... not in the pot world anyways


so were u just pissed at the world when u typed this shit ? <----- follow his advise....

Click to expand...

No there was a couple posts people said that the nutes made the plants yellow out. And it is a two part it comes in two bottles.

Some companys make one parts hombolts has oness advanced has their one part as does general hydro now.

They have all minerals if you read the bottle you can get threw the grow with one bottle. When companys use organic mater they have to break it in two parts because the minerals react to each other and will start to break down in the bottle before use.

EJ is a two part read the bottles ingredients you need both parts or your missing a mineral most likly cal or mag are split from each other or a couple others not sure witch.

Wasnt angree by the way I just didnt want people to read those posts and think automaticly earth juice kills plants.

People always run into problems with earth juice and age old nutreints because they dont use the whole system. They dont understand that organic minerals MAKE your nutes by the reaction they have when mixed and start to break down.

Your plants eat what the minerals make and the minerals eat what your plant makes. you can add micro fungi to speed up this process and allow you to add more minerals.

Agian I wasnt angree sorry if it read that way.

hey snail by micro fungi what do you mean? i know ej has microblast but i don't think thats microfungi, maybe it is though. hey does anyone know if this is an earth juice product? any benefits to using these? with the ej line up?

Click image to enlarge
Earth Nectar & Ambrosia
"Magnificent Mycorrhiza"

Price:$22.50

Item #: ENA405
Size: pint set
Weight: 3



Also available in pint set quart set gallon set

Rating:

Out of 1 Reviews
Leave a rating!
Earth Friendly Selection Product Description

Two-part mycorrhizal inoculants, Earth Nectar and Earth Ambrosia, are great for soil gardening and hydroponics. When Earth Nectar&#8212;containing the concentrated mycorrhizal cultures&#8212;is mixed with Earth Ambrosia&#8212;the fuel delivery system for the active cultures&#8212;they combine to infuse the growing medium with mycorrhizal cultures resulting in stronger plants and increased crop yields. Set of two one-pint bottles.