Funny how the sparkys in this thread say its a fair price .
So you're saying that you and a tenant can conspire to do unwanted, uneeded "improvements" without permission or even knowlege of the owner and still file a lein? This sounds like fraud to me.
please reread #68 no conspiring just doing my job.
Im a landlord in Mich & we own over 20 middle class houses & several High end rentals along with 2 self storage facilities, no landlord in his right mind is gonna bitch about a tenant doing improvements to a property , unless its building something like a wall , electrical & plumbing or landscape improvements are allways welcomed with us & i dont know any other landlords that are dicks when tenants do improvements.
Seriously? The OP is talking about running more electricity. The electrician will do the math to make sure it's safe and run the circuit to code. Electrician gets a whopping $460 to buy parts and for labor to make the circuit safe. WTF are you ranting about? It's not like they gonna paint the place dark fugly purple or something.
Yeah man. If you were knocking down a wall, the owner would be pissed. If you painted the whole house some ugly color that made it an eyesore, the owner would be pissed. But, to have wiring professional installed in the basement for a "man cave", that's a selling point the owner can make to the tenant that comes after you. You know, that big screen to watch the games with your homies.
You must not own too many rentals , low income section 8 folks normally steal the appliances , toilet full of shit from 3 months of no water , burn the fuk outts floors , leave 3 truck loads of garbage behind , every window screen gone , busted windows & plumbing under kitchen sink destroyed , shit like that is why we no longer rent to section 8 or welfare people , 99% walk away when we charge a refundable $100 application fee .
No, I would say that was more like fraud.
If a contractor and a tenant conspire to make "improvements" without the owners knowledge but with the intent to force him to pay for it, they are corrupt. What you did is pretty much standard, tho those "remodel loans" pay at a slower rate, I think. You're dealing with a bank, so there's little to no risk. So you say it's a civil matter between the tenant and the contractor, Puff n stuff says he can force the owner to pay. One of you is wrong. I don't think many landlords would think their property converted to an illegal grow house would be an "improvement".
If the electrician does good work and you pay him promptly, the landlord will probably never even know.
You didn't understand my post at all.
no the fraud would be committed by the tennant not the liscensed pro. doing his job.i am acting" in good faith" look it up its a legal term.i do not asume everyone is screwing everyone else.i can assume the caller owns the property or tennant has recieved permission.if you dont understand that then nothing is going to help you red.
Bank loans , fraud & conspiracy wtf are you talking about , a contractor lein is a simple $ amount attached to the property , if the owner sells the property title escro catches the lein , homeowner disputes the lein , title company gives contractor 5 - 30 days to file civil suit against property owner , if no suit is made property is sold , simple .
Potato head ball chinian is right on. lol