Fan Leafs. Blockers of Light Or Energy Producers???

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Kite High

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there's a damned gnat buzzing around here still isn't there....man so glad I do not have to see the crap this pest is leaving behind...man PR that ignore option is the best thing ever

Lemme try to rid this infestation and the feces it leaves behind



hopefully this works :bigjoint:
 

MYOB

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Leaves and other greenery block lumens to the stem inhibiting growth. I like to cut all leaves from the plant as soon as they emerge. This allows the lumens to saturate the stem. It grows like CRAZY! Be sure to check every day and cut any leafy growth before it grows out and blocks the lumen penetration.

I harvested 8oz of dried, perfectly manicured stem last harvest. One stalk was 12" around and over 4' tall. Topping can produce more but thinner and less woody stems...
 

Bud Brewer

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Cool your plants sound just like mine but I bet I get much more than 8 oz of bud and over a pound of stalk per plant do roots count.

My luck is awesome I got stuck with a gallon of heavy crap garden soil, purple stems till I transplanted, vegged with custom cfls and a 400 watt hps defoliated many times to make some dense dank.

The cfls are great for veg my custon made batwing hood is original as is my flowering vertical shield and my own home made organics along with my years of experience made me so lucky.

Just watch what I do instead of just reading about something try it you might get as luck as me if you pay attention.

I know you like to see my skinny defoliated ladies.






































 

MYOB

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You have WAY too many leaves! That stalk is practically suffocating from lack of hard core lumen penetration. I usually end up with one or two leaves total at harvest. Sometimes I miss them when I go in for my daily leaf cutting. Those flowers are blocking lumens as well! I cut all signs of buds right when i see them emerge. Luckily, I rarely get buds because of my militant leaf cutting!

You're getting way too high a bud/stem ratio for me. I like 95% stem and 5% bud (just to support stem growth)
 

HeartlandHank

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Bud Brewer,
Those pics are really making the round today... What is it you are yielding with how much lighting? What is this plant? A mother you keep?
 

Slab

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The worlds oldest cannabis plant woo hoo. Was originally put to veg on mt arrat by Noah, then given to bud brewer to grow for 9 months.lol
 

elkukupanda

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You have WAY too many leaves! That stalk is practically suffocating from lack of hard core lumen penetration. I usually end up with one or two leaves total at harvest. Sometimes I miss them when I go in for my daily leaf cutting. Those flowers are blocking lumens as well! I cut all signs of buds right when i see them emerge. Luckily, I rarely get buds because of my militant leaf cutting!

You're getting way too high a bud/stem ratio for me. I like 95% stem and 5% bud (just to support stem growth)
Hahahaha, damm :)
you know what? fuck cannabis.. I'm start growing bamboos to get more OZ's!...
 

Bud Brewer

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You have WAY too many leaves! That stalk is practically suffocating from lack of hard core lumen penetration. I usually end up with one or two leaves total at harvest. Sometimes I miss them when I go in for my daily leaf cutting. Those flowers are blocking lumens as well! I cut all signs of buds right when i see them emerge. Luckily, I rarely get buds because of my militant leaf cutting!

You're getting way too high a bud/stem ratio for me. I like 95% stem and 5% bud (just to support stem growth)
Not only the stalks but all the leaves and bud aren't getting any light underneath but Ben says they don't need it light goes right thru leaf what do you think?










I'm going to get rid of that big pile of bud blocking light to my stems and leaves because they are the best but more bud will start blocking my stems again good Ideas you got Thanks.
 

Kite High

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You have WAY too many leaves! That stalk is practically suffocating from lack of hard core lumen penetration. I usually end up with one or two leaves total at harvest. Sometimes I miss them when I go in for my daily leaf cutting. Those flowers are blocking lumens as well! I cut all signs of buds right when i see them emerge. Luckily, I rarely get buds because of my militant leaf cutting!

You're getting way too high a bud/stem ratio for me. I like 95% stem and 5% bud (just to support stem growth)
coming see you when I need some rope:wall:
 

Bud Brewer

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Bud Brewer,
Those pics are really making the round today... What is it you are yielding with how much lighting? What is this plant? A mother you keep?
I reposted it a few times to show the transition in a few pics.

I'll guess the weight at 12 to 16 each maybe more off the first run the second harvest could be 3/4 of that I'll still have a big plant after I take all the big bud.

The strain is bagseed my friend grew last fall in hydro with a 1000 mh like me and vegged for two months but weren't as big nice average plants good tasty dense bud.

I would love to revege these after the second or third harvest to go outside to get sunlight to make a better mother, but I got the six for the defoliation test and will take clones as I need them from what I got.
 

HeartlandHank

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I reposted it a few times to show the transition in a few pics.

I'll guess the weight at 12 to 16 each maybe more off the first run the second harvest could be 3/4 of that I'll still have a big plant after I take all the big bud.

The strain is bagseed my friend grew last fall in hydro with a 1000 mh like me and vegged for two months but weren't as big nice average plants good tasty dense bud.

I would love to revege these after the second or third harvest to go outside to get sunlight to make a better mother, but I got the six for the defoliation test and will take clones as I need them from what I got.
How many weeks flower? Are you saying 24-32 oz + 18 - 24 oz? like 42 - 56 oz under 1k? I must be misunderstanding you. Just looking at the pictures.. that is no 2.5 - 3.5 lb crop. I'll assume you meant 24-32 oz from 1k. correct me if i am wrong.

So 24-32 oz from 2 plant under 1000 watts flowering? That's not bad,,, not too out of the ordinary for a high yielding skunk cross though. Especially if it is closer to 12 each rather than 15 . I'm not trying to take from your accomplishments here... a yield like that is nothing to scoff at... Nice work, for real.
I've gotten deep into 2 skunk plants... They yielded about 1.05 - 1.2 lbs per 600 hps with 3 weeks veg under T8 lights. They were pretty no fuss, minimal effort... The 1.05lb (Green Crack) flowered in 8 wks.. The 1.2 (PSBC Kush x Skunk) flowered in 9 weeks. I'm SUPER happy with those yields.

I would bet the farm that your bagseed there has quite a bit of skunk in it. NL x Skunk, that sort of thing. I guess "skunk" is sort of loose, but it looks skunky to me. Really, it looks exactly like a NL x Skunk to me. Skunks give very productive branching even without defoliation. I use LST for most of my plants as a way to fill the canopy and make the plant more productive... The only plants that I just leave alone are the skunk plants. They need no training to produce, space properly and grow dense mature buds from top to bottom.

Do you know what the plant yields without defoliation? Have you tried this with some other genetics?
I would be curious to see how the defol works with some other genetics... Skunks are already known for the amazing productive branching and high yields... I guess that is what this test is for though..

If you could get super productive branching on something like... say, Blockhead (terminal growth)... then I would be convinced. I think anyone who knows the difference between the stature of a skunk plant and a terminal type plant like Blockhead would be convinced as well.
I actually did a bit of defol on a terminal type plant (Deep Chunk) to try to make it more productive... no dice. But that was years ago. SOG was the most productive method I could get out of that plant.
Your defol method is different than what I did though. I would piss myself if you were onto something here and my Deep Chunk plant would be worth growing more often. She yields about 5 oz per 600 hps... if I go SOG (which I fucking HATE doing) I can get an extra oz from each 600 hps. Pitiful, but the quality is unreal. Pea sized buds that burn forever and have narcotic like effects.
 

HeartlandHank

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I would love to revege these after the second or third harvest to go outside to get sunlight to make a better mother, but I got the six for the defoliation test and will take clones as I need them from what I got.
Yeah man. This doesn't look like a plant you want to let go of right away. Looks fucking great.
 

Bud Brewer

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Thanks that plant will definitely stay as my indica dom and skunk nl is possible.

I could had done a few things for more yield like four plants would have given me a lot more weight or more space between so I could have dropped the light down more but I will get a large second crop with no veg time so bonus and more veg time for my test clones.

As far as the slow growing low branching/yield types veg time is needed and defoliation would increase dense branching=budsites just defoliate over a couple of days without feeding, let them leaf out good then repeat till you have the structure/size you want for flower florecents work good for the first half of veg.
 
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