Arris
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Like I said they are going to start growing for you in a couple of days and now with the extra bulb it only helps. Have you given any thought on how you're going to grow these plants? Natural, topping, lst?
First grow ever with unknown strain using full organic soil and nutes
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Kael
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Id like to keep with full organic like when flowering first sets in, in the first week of flowering I'm putting Jamaican bat guano into the top layer to replenish phosphorus, but I will not be adding any nitrogen past that point because the depravation makes the thc content higher right? And your gonna have to explain more in depth I don't understand most of the lingo you use.
Arris
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What I meant was are you going to do anything to them as far as training , topping or are you just going to let them grow naturally(xmass tree)?
Kael
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Oh I don't know any training techniques for the plants but if you have tips I'm all ears. I was going to trim them a little if they got to wide, but I would love to learn how to top a plant cause I don't have time to grow a five foot plant ya know that's just a waste for now but one day maybe I can have a mother and breed em that'd be cool but that's a long ways away. Quick update more leaves are comin out! And is there a reason why the leaves are twisted?
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Arris
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Could be reacting to the wind. As long as there not turning brown you shouldn't worry. Mine twist all over but I find with indica it does that. To keep plants small you're going to have to train it by super cropping or tying it down, using a scrog. Topping will give you two top's were there was one and will slow vertical growth and make the remaining growth get bushy. But thats only for about a few day's until it starts growing again. I top my plants and they stop growing and get fat instead a week later there a foot taller and I'm having to supercrop just to slow it down and keep the height down. Even a small plant with a short veg will get to be 3 feet tall. Add a good foot to whatever height you flip at. So a two foot plant will be 3 or so when done. For people with height restrictions a scrog is best in my opinion, A net.
Kael
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Ok can I get that at lowes or is that gonna be at a garden center? And that would be awsome if they are indica I was worried id gotten some sativa seeds or duds. On Monday I'm going to transplant all 3 into their 5 gal containers so that'll be a fun partaking.
Kael
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Awsome And here's the plants I just finished feeding them,4ml of iguana juice grow, 3ml of liquid nirvana and 10 ounces of water, mixed it all up and distributed evenly between the 3, there does seem to be a slight burn on the very tips of 2 of them I'm going to add 1ml cal/mag mixed with 4 oz and lightly water to see if that helps.
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Kael
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Hell yea that's one big freakin cola!those roots are ridiculous too I ordered some voodoo juice(just the lil 250ml bottle)so hopefully I can achieve massive root growth as well. Do you use odor control,Or does the tent have a carbon filter?. Sorry for so many questions lol
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Arris
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Where I live I don't have to worry about odor control so no I don't use a scrubber although I got 2 brand new ones sitting in the closet never been used. The rootball in my pic is small I took it because I wanted to see how white the roots looked with a camera(under that HPS color is messed up). I have seen same setups and the rootball is so thick filling the bucket and it comes out like a plug. I was using peroxide for a while(not this grow)to stimulate root growth but it don't last long, 24hrs and it's gone and for a 100 liters of water I was useing alot so I stoped and now I have been trying Aquasheild and well the rootball is small compared to when I was using peroxide. Plus when I was having them ph problems that slowed the root growth down alot as well. Chicken shit, thats the active ingredient in aquasheild go figure. It was probably part of the ph problem as well because now I just got the JJ 3base in the buckets with some cal/mag and thats it and in a day(pic's don't show well)the difference is very noticeable.
Your sprouts are looking great I see new growth and it looks green so thats a good sign.
Kael
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I looked into the peroxide thing but it seemed a little over my head so I took the easy route and bought that voodoo stuff I'll test it out in a control experiment( one no voodoo an one with) to see how well it works. I started their veg cycle last night (6 hours darkness then 18 hour light) and when the lights are off they look pretty wicked. They are doin WAY better than expected I usually grow tomatoes peppers and cucumbers and I thought weed was different but it really isn't nutritional wise.
Arris
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How come you're doing it 18/6 and not 24/7 for veg? I try to keep my grows simple and stick to old school rules as all that unnecessary stuff like vitamins only drives up the ppm and at the end of the day really has done nothing to help the plants. I have tried almost all of the AN line and all you really need it the Jungle Juice, why pay the extra for the ph perfect line when a ten dollar bottle of down will last 3 or 4 grows. I'm not trying to grow cover of high times plants that have been pampered for 5 months. I just want couch lock and plenty of it. But thats me and like I said before when it comes to nutes my wife always say's I'm stingy. All I use now is Jungle Juice G,M,B Big Bud and Bud Candy also Cal/Mag and now I will be using peroxide again to try to get some better rootballs. But the plants are drinking alot of water and the ppm is going down so they are eating so If I can't get better roots in the next couple weeks I won't worry about it. The other 4 I got going that I have done nothing with as far as training or trimming leaves are doing great but so far there grow has been problem free.
Kael
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I was doin 18/6 for a couple days to send the plants to flower to determine sex early on, it seems the one doing super good is male and the other two might be female, I'm back on 24/7 tomarrow and I transplanted all 3 into 5 gal buckets of ffof they all have great root balls and a lot of small roots coming off the sides I'll post pics in the mornin
Arris
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Theres no possible way that you can tell sex from a sprout. You will have to wait a few more weeks yet before you can force sex(no offence but you have sprouts and even giving them 12/12 will do nothing to them at all). The plants will love there new home. Do you know what to look for when trying to identify the sex of a plant? If not I will post very good pics and detailed instructions on identifying plant sex.
Ok so now you got your lamps setup and the fan is blowing and you have done the transplant now it's time to let them girls grow for a while and try not to disturb them too much and let them pots dry before you water again And stop playing with the light cycle as all you're going to do is turn possible females in to hermi's. plants do not like alot of stress. I am not a believer that small light leaks will cause a hermi as a plant grown outside will always get some form of light 24/7 and they don't hermi. But a 3 hours(example) gap of darkness a few times a week and I'm sure you will force that plant to hermi.
Look forward to the new pics.
Kael
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I'm totally ready for early bud porn! They are looking lovely the smell must be amazing in that tent lol. And I'm reading this book and some of it is too advanced for me at the moment that's why I tried the forced flower, so it would be fantastic if you could post pics of females and males and how to sex them I'm all ears cause this book is missing one thing- a teacher. And here they are haven't watered them at all an am now just sticking to spring water to and when the voodoo juice gets in I'll use a tad for better roots and I feel your pain on 250 gone in the blink of an eye lol! Here's the setup and plants after rearranging everything if you see somthing amiss please let me know.
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Arris
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They look happy in there new homes. A Little droopy but they just went thru shock. I will get some pics and reading material for you some time today. But I will just walk you thru it as I am going nowhere anytime soon. Looking good.
Kael
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Ok hell ya much appreciation my friend, and those black seeds should be in by end of this week or next and I'm gonna start one out and include it with these little prettys, the black seeds are my main crop cause it's medicene for family. But these Colorado seeds could be much more potent and better than the bc seeds. the bud I found them inside of was very compact and pretty potent considering it was full of seeds. All the seeds were brown with black dots outlined with light brown they were weird looking for sure any thoughts?
