First Grow! Sealed/Closed Room, 2400 watts, CO2, Mini-Split AC, SmartPots, Dehum!

legallyflying said:

Xivex, Do you have any pictures of the new isolated veg set-up? I did the same thing essentially (and of course have to make it bigger as I am in the process of converting everything to bucket based ebb/flow (which is going to fucking money).

The only issue with a sealed room and two different areas is the humidity levels. Can't keep the humidity perfect for veg and flower at the same time but shouldn't be too big of an issue. I stabilized my veg area by exhausting my carbon scrubber into the veg tent. I constructed a light proof exhaust baffle from the veg tent out of panda film and 1 x1s. There is a picture of it in page 8 of my grow journal.

I had a hell of a time keeping my veg tent closed without light escaping, especially with all the positive pressure of the carbon filter pumping into it. And the velcro kept coming off the panda film. What I eventually did..and I hope this makes sense... Is I stapled the end of the "wall" of panda to a floor to ceiling mounted. Think of it acting like a wall stud, the panda is on the veg tent side of the stud. Then I stapled an identical 2 x 2 to the end of the panda film "door". When I want to close the tent I clap those two together with two of those $.99 spring clamps. There is a couple of inches of material that is looped back over the the 2x and secured to the panda "wall" with a couple velcro tabs. completely light proof and easy to get in and out of.

here is a diagram of what I'm talking about..

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I need to think about this, I'll keep it in mind. I haven't sealed the tarp doorway at all yet, leaving it unzipped for a couple days to make sure everything is okay before I completely seal it. So far its working out well, temps are steady around 77-81F at the leaf canopy with 70% humidity. Not sure what will happen when I close the zipper, we shall see...been thinking about how to make it work, and I need to contemplate your solution more to better understand it..

waynebuilt said:

nice looking good im tuned in

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Day 46 of Veg (Dec. 9, 2010)

UPDATE!!!


So a lot has changed in my room lately..read the last few posts if you want a recap, but basically I installed a tarp doorway seperating my room into 2 sections: flower and veg. This will eventually allow me to grow perptually be taking clones before throwing the mature plants into flower and continuing to cycle plants through the room! I'm excited.

The plants are getting fucking huge. I've grouped several of what I consider to be the sativa influenced seeds on the left side of veg. There is still like 1 of them on the right side, but hey at least they are grouped somewhat to even out the canopy now. The left side's canopy is noticeably taller as you'll see from the pics...

8 of the 9 plants are now emitting pistil pre-flowers!! HURRAY! The only remaining holdout is the LSD #3..aka THE RUNT! Yuck...this little bitch is pissing me off. They are getting humongous and I want to throw them into flower very very soon...

Once I get the veg environment dialed back in to my satisfaction I'll take clones and throw these bitches into flower. Was waiting on them to show pre-flowers on all of them before I do this, and I think it will be complete in the next couple of days! Can't wait to start flowering!

Here are the pics...Comments?

3 shots of some Sativa phenos from the LSD strain..




Jock Horror in front, Misc Plants, LSD #3 aka Runtie...yuck LOL




Left Side, Left Side, Right Side Views...




Veg Group Shots...




Veg Lights with Sun Shields and insulated 6" ducting on them now....yaya! Reflector tops now average 81F.




Veg Lights Exhaust Fan (EcoPlus 440CFM 6" Inline Fan) and Ducting..tarp doorway view from veg side...




TARP DOORWAY FROM FLOWER, tarp doorway ceiling, tarp doorway side wall and floor..




Looking thru the tarp doorway from flower into veg...




COMMENTS??? THOUGHTS? IDEAS?


Thanks,

X

your plants look excellent. nice work!

legallyflying said:

your plants look excellent. nice work!

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Thanks man! They are just gigantic. I'm literally running out of space waiting for them all to pre-flower. LOL. ...never thought I'd have this as a problem. I think next time I will be shooting for 6 mature plants instead of the 9 I have now. Give em more room and let em spread out. 9 is too crowded under those 2- 400w lights for veg...at least at the size they are now. I need to measure the sativa phenos. I swear they are over 3' tall already. I can't imagine how big they're gonna get in flower.

What did ya think of the tarp doorway? I need to zip it up in another day or two and take environment measurements for a day or two in it with it zipped and see how it performs. Hopefully I won't have to duct air into it and mess with light control and all of that that would come with such a task..using the carbon filter exhaust air from flower is a great idea tho. and I could light seal that pretty easily since the filter covers the other side of the fan. I'd just have to hang the filter and fan and cut the tarp around the fan's lip and gorilla tape it tight around the lip. That should light proof it right? Its not gonna come out the back of the carbon filter or anything I'd hope..lol

Thanks bro..

X

"I can't imagine how big they're gonna get in flower."

Neither can I, but I'll patiently be waiting to see . I'm planning on doing 9 plants also, vegged for two months (from seed), in 5 gallon DWC buckets per 1,000W light... so seeing your results should more or less show me what to expect!

Your plants really do look very healthy, grats!

Mcburner510 said:

"I can't imagine how big they're gonna get in flower."

Neither can I, but I'll patiently be waiting to see . I'm planning on doing 9 plants also, vegged for two months (from seed), in 5 gallon DWC buckets per 1,000W light... so seeing your results should more or less show me what to expect!

Your plants really do look very healthy, grats!

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Thanks bro! Much appreciated. I hope my results turn out great then!

Nice clean room. The leaves look nice and soft, keep em that way.

You have switched to 12/12 haven't you? Those things are going to be at least 5' tall when flowering.

Shrubs First said:

Nice clean room. The leaves look nice and soft, keep em that way.

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Thanks Shrubs!!

legallyflying said:

You have switched to 12/12 haven't you? Those things are going to be at least 5' tall when flowering.

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Not yet bro, this week coming up. I think I'm gonna lollipop em 2 weeks into flower to help compensate for the height and the fact that 400w lights dont penetration beyond a couple feet really.

I think I need to transplant to 5 gal smart pots first before going 12/12 and then give em 3-4 days to recover from that too...what do you think? Currently in 3 gal smart pots.

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X

xivex said:

Thanks Shrubs!!



Not yet bro, this week coming up. I think I'm gonna lollipop em 2 weeks into flower to help compensate for the height and the fact that 400w lights dont penetration beyond a couple feet really.

I think I need to transplant to 5 gal smart pots first before going 12/12 and then give em 3-4 days to recover from that too...what do you think? Currently in 3 gal smart pots.

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X

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Plan for about a gallon of potting space per month of growth. A standard 1 month
veg with 2 month flower should be fine in 3 gallons, although 5 gallons would most
likely up your yield.

Know this, everything you do effects other aspects of your grow.

There are several factors:
Plant Selection, Water Solution, Shoot Environment and Root Environment.

If you change factors governing any of these, expect one or all of them to change.

For example,
A change in your root environment will change your shoot environment.

Shrubs First said:

Plan for about a gallon of potting space per month of growth. A standard 1 month
veg with 2 month flower should be fine in 3 gallons, although 5 gallons would most
likely up your yield.

Know this, everything you do effects other aspects of your grow.

There are several factors:
Plant Selection, Water Solution, Shoot Environment and Root Environment.

If you change factors governing any of these, expect one or all of them to change.

For example,
A change in your root environment will change your shoot environment.

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Awesome tips! +REP!

So the plants are just gigantic. I am damn near out of room in my veg chamber and watering is growing increasingly difficult. I managed to accidentally "supercrop" several of the branches of the Jock Horror and a few on one or two of the LSDs just watering them. I'm sure they will perk back up, but they are bent down somewhat now.

I don't have the room light proofed yet or clones going and its increasingly difficult to attempt to work in this tiny area with such massive plants...THUS, I've decided (due to other extenuating circumstances also) to not clone or go perpetual just yet. I'm just gonna run this LSD cycle all the way through and then re-consider my plan. At that point I will fix up and light proof the room, ready the clone stand, etc etc. Basically just finish the room before I start anything else. I should have done that first...live and learn.

I have a lot of work this week outside of the garden, but after that is over in the next 2-3 days I'm moving them into flowering chamber and putting them on 12/12.

Oh, due to the room size issue at this point, I had to weed out the runt. He's chopped and dead in the trash..

Really I should weed out one more also, as I now have 8 left but its still fucking crowded as hell. Chalk this up to my noob inexperience...I even had dudes tell me the #1 mistake a rookie makes is too many plants in too small an area. Now I know, and knowing is half the battle. Next time I'm growing 6, not 10. It'll just fit my space better..


Stay tuned for day 1 of flowering coming later this week with pics!!


Thanks,

X

xivex said:

Oh, due to the room size issue at this point, I had to weed out the runt. He's chopped and dead in the trash..

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MUDERER!!

Namaste'

shoulda smoked those leaves mate or made some tea or something. if you have a pocket scope check out the leaves. you wont believe your eyes

Illumination said:

MUDERER!!

Namaste'

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LOL! I knew you'd be upset bro... My condolences...if its any consolation I said a quiet prayer after shedding a single tear.
I didn't want to, but seriously the space is just so limited now, I had to do something...

wally nutter said:

shoulda smoked those leaves mate or made some tea or something. if you have a pocket scope check out the leaves. you wont believe your eyes

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Next time I will do that! Didn't even think of a tea...great idea mate!

Thanks,

X

Ahhh the joys of watering soil....

Don't chop my brother, build a screen, flip to 12/12 and SCROG those bitches!

Nice Grow.....I am subbed. Caught on late but read the whole thread. It is very interesting to me because I started my grow about the same time as you did.......organic soil mix, and smart pots. I just moved my girls to the flowering room and flipped them to 12/12. I am growing 11 strains, so I cloned them all to select mothers based on the finished plants.

DJ GreenThumb said:

Nice Grow.....I am subbed. Caught on late but read the whole thread. It is very interesting to me because I started my grow about the same time as you did.......organic soil mix, and smart pots. I just moved my girls to the flowering room and flipped them to 12/12. I am growing 11 strains, so I cloned them all to select mothers based on the finished plants.

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check my closet out. our babies are all about the same age!! im using soil and smart pots too

Xivex! this be my first post on your thread, i've been reading and watching and now i think it's time to offer my advice as you are going into flowering very soon! this is part of one of my posts when i was discussing technique when where whys and hows. 'As SS420 has stated he likes to Supercrop the plants through vegetative growth and then on flipping to 12/12 give a 24-36 BLACK out period. the black out period cause the plants to jump into the flowering cycle. Upon putting in the flowering room i assume that he then FIMs as he knows the new growth will stretch into one massive bud. What i have gleaned from this is if you want one massive BUSH of a plant. Supercrop, LST, and FIM through vegetative growth. Before flowering wait 2 weeks from any FIMing and let the plants heal. then do as SS420 has done and FIM one last time after the black out period on light change. that away you have tons of buds all stretching into massive colas.'

i think that with your massive plants and all of them currently showing pre-flowers, that if you did this to the ladies they would do more that just explode with bud growth in flowering. The plants would start a 10 day count down to nuclear explosive growth! we all know what HPS lights do to internode space and stretching. so make your stretches pure massive colas! hopefully you like this and if you have any questions i'm reading and watching and waiting! much love to a brotha! and