Grow-A-Long with Dick

lakesidegrower

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Anyways … lol ****weird
Day 7 of flower / Loving the CO2 supp so far, plants seem fairly stoked on it, got it pretty well dialed in I think. The temps are a lil higher than I’d like at 86-87 and can’t run fully sealed and the fan kicks on occasionally until the temps really drop, but able to maintain good CO2 levels regardless. Think they took a bit of a snack when I initially turned on CO2, jacked temps and light levels… dasa noob move… but look at em pray
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lakesidegrower

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wanted to get some feedback here… pretty sure I’m dealing with a phos def in one of my blueberries - showed up in new growth a couple days after increasing temps and starting CO2 - figure that i pressed fast forward and now needing more phos ASAP - this is only showing in one of the two blueberry pots, other one seems groovy. Confirm? Suggestions for address? I did a very light top dress of 2 tbsp Gaia bloom mix (2-8-4) and 1 tsp bat guano in the 15 gal, watered with light humic/fulvic and bloom microbes - ‘directions’ call for 1tbsp per gallon of soil… always seems way overboard to me… I do have a pretty extensive toolkit of organics to choose from - lemme know what you think
 

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madvillian420

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Oh, just to update.
No one seems to be making twin 250s anymore.
when i went to buy my 250 over a decade ago, the hydro store guy explained that 250w HPS is by far the least effective of all HPS, not just due to being the lowest wattage/lumens but heat output in 250 vs 400 is so close that going for the bigger size makes much more sense. said "its not a true 250w" and gave a few other reasons i cant remember all these years later. but said hed take a 400 over (2) 250s any day, and that was over 10 years ago, id bet technology caught up to these light manufacturers and the demand for better more efficient stuff is phasing out low wattage hps
 

weedstoner420

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These are my organic bonsai moms, mostly following the oldtimer1 recipe.

The right and left ones are the same plant. I keep two because it's a bit harder to clone, so I have a backup just in case. In the spirit of showing the good along with the bad, the one in the middle I think I trimmed back too hard recently. One of the 4 main branches died and two of them have no new growth. It's getting replaced by a clone of itself soon though.

Also got some cat grass in the front for the cat to munch on

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myke

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wanted to get some feedback here… pretty sure I’m dealing with a phos def in one of my blueberries - showed up in new growth a couple days after increasing temps and starting CO2 - figure that i pressed fast forward and now needing more phos ASAP - this is only showing in one of the two blueberry pots, other one seems groovy. Confirm? Suggestions for address? I did a very light top dress of 2 tbsp Gaia bloom mix (2-8-4) and 1 tsp bat guano in the 15 gal, watered with light humic/fulvic and bloom microbes - ‘directions’ call for 1tbsp per gallon of soil… always seems way overboard to me… I do have a pretty extensive toolkit of organics to choose from - lemme know what you think
Light is causing it? Does look like Mg deficiency .
 

lakesidegrower

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Light is causing it? Does look like Mg deficiency .
I had another good look today - the newest growth that has now started to leaf out looks pretty darn good… not sure if a def that shows in new growth would necessarily show right away? I’m now starting to lean more towards the explanation being that I blasted them with too much light/enviro change and burnt the newest growth at the time. I initially doubted that because the same issue shows on new growth deep in the centre of the canopy, it just didn’t have that typical patterning of light burn.
 

Richard Drysift

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Oh, just to update.

Now hand watering twice a day with just the right amount now that they are under twin 250 watt HPS. No one seems to be making twin 250s anymore.
It is time to take clones and when they are established then it will be time to flip the lights and see what I have,
I did say this is a seed rescue so no special efforts to win any accolades are being taken.
I did close down my build thread due to harassment but the work continues.I went with 4K HPS because I want to reuse the heat for the human living space and or vent it.

I may try an LED light or two in the future but I trust Hortilux Eye to do just fine.

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Friendly_Grower
Take it from an old eye hortiluxe HPS disciple; COB LEDS kick major ass. Cheap-ass led panels are total junk; ok for vegging small plants but that’s about it. I found that COB LEDs on the other hand outperform even the most intense HPS bulbs. My Timber Redwood VS increased yields over my old 600w HPS no question hands down. It pulls the same amount of power from the wall yet it is dimmable. You can dial back to about 70% until the plants are in mid bloom which saves power. The lower buds get just as dense as the colas which means more solid nuggets curing in the jars. What used to be larf/popcorn is viable bud; more smoke instead of concentrate/edibles.
My advice? Wait until you can afford a quality LED from Timber or elsewhere. They really are worth the money.
 

Richard Drysift

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I mean not like anyone really cares but we have figured out through process of elimination and several long sessions of trying out bud samples that the mystery plant in my garden was Gorilla Girl by Sweet Seeds. We found some of our old notes and then realized I had given away the original mother plant which is why it came up missing from our repertoire so to speak. Somebody had recently harvested the plant we had gifted them; samples were provided along with the original plant stake marked with the strain Gorilla Girl; apparently a GSC x GG cross.
This happened to be while my last plant harvested was still hanging so once fully dry we did a comparison. Found them to be identical in flavor, smell, and bud structure. We know we cloned the mother because 2 more plants in the bloom room right now look to be from the same cuts. Mystery solved.
All that being said I am glad to report that for the first G-Girl plant harvested by us the final weights are in: 108g of premium cola bud and 33g of sugar leaf trims/tiny buds for a grand total of 141g. Not bad: just under a QP of solid nuggets. Was so resinous during final trim that I had to keep some alcohol nearby to keep my scissors from gunking up. Had 3 sets & just kept switching them out. This is a true 3 hitter quitter; very potent. Aroma is very much like GSC but bud structure resembles chem dawg; a decent yielder w/bag appeal. Thanks that’s all for now. Peace and happy growing!
 

JHake

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Little update

Just waiting on the flowering tent, almost Day 56 for the ladies.
The more compact buds are from Sour Compassion.
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Bigger one is Gorilla Zkittlez. Burst of new white stigmas. I don't know if the plant gets somewhat confused by little light leakages i may have.
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Regular plants have really perked up after transplanting them, 9-10 days difference between the pictures
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And last, i believe i have my first male! Or at least, my first male while looking for it lol
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topdawg09

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These are my organic bonsai moms, mostly following the oldtimer1 recipe.

The right and left ones are the same plant. I keep two because it's a bit harder to clone, so I have a backup just in case. In the spirit of showing the good along with the bad, the one in the middle I think I trimmed back too hard recently. One of the 4 main branches died and two of them have no new growth. It's getting replaced by a clone of itself soon though.

Also got some cat grass in the front for the cat to munch on

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JHake

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Had to take down Gorilla Zkittlez.
I was taking out some nanners every few days, and all of the sudden the plant bursted a batch of nanners.
Didn't want to risk the other plant that still has weeks to go and didn't show any nanner or hermie trait at all.
And besides that, Gorilla Zkittlez is a little % of the yield of the tent, so weighing pros and cons, i decided to harvest her.
 

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Richard Drysift

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This one has been stinking up the place; she’s chunky and skunky. She said …hey is that our shit or did a fuckin skunk die in the basement?
Yep… that’s our shit. Smells like roadkill skunk; don’t remember this cut being so skunky but I also don’t think we let it go to a full 12 weeks. Sweet seeds Afghani. This was the mother; witness the end of her lineage. Godamm huge purply buds; praying there’s no bud rot…

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JHake

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Day 70 for the Sour Compassion.
Needed to tie some branches because they were bending over. Still white pistils but some of them seem to be weak enough to get blown away by the fan. Raised the lights, should have done it earlier. Days are getting hotter here, will see if i replace the open light hood with a closed vented one for the last weeks.

I'm also flowering my first males and started flowering in another tent the regular fem plants, don't have pics yet.
 

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Richard Drysift

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A word of caution…after drying the last plant we found PM on the inside of the largest colas; not a total loss but I will no longer advocate for growing monster size buds. Never really got bud rot like this until this year but recently I’ve been trying to test the limits of my lighting. Wanted to see just how damn big I could grow big ass buds but now that I know how big they can get under a Timber redwood vs we will no longer try. Will continue to drop the hours of daylight gradually to reduce stretching before the flip but no more “monster” cropping. It’s just too powerful and my basement conditions are apparently not as optimal as I once thought.
 

raggyb

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wanted to get some feedback here… pretty sure I’m dealing with a phos def in one of my blueberries - showed up in new growth a couple days after increasing temps and starting CO2 - figure that i pressed fast forward and now needing more phos ASAP - this is only showing in one of the two blueberry pots, other one seems groovy. Confirm? Suggestions for address? I did a very light top dress of 2 tbsp Gaia bloom mix (2-8-4) and 1 tsp bat guano in the 15 gal, watered with light humic/fulvic and bloom microbes - ‘directions’ call for 1tbsp per gallon of soil… always seems way overboard to me… I do have a pretty extensive toolkit of organics to choose from - lemme know what you think
It looks like something that's going on those tops that should be an immobile nute. I keep forgetting which are immobile. here they are, https://nrcca.cals.cornell.edu/soilFertilityCA/CA1/CA1_print.html . so maybe in order of likelihood Calcium, Mag or Phos
 

JimmyJackCorn

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A word of caution…after drying the last plant we found PM on the inside of the largest colas; not a total loss but I will no longer advocate for growing monster size buds. Never really got bud rot like this until this year but recently I’ve been trying to test the limits of my lighting. Wanted to see just how damn big I could grow big ass buds but now that I know how big they can get under a Timber redwood vs we will no longer try. Will continue to drop the hours of daylight gradually to reduce stretching before the flip but no more “monster” cropping. It’s just too powerful and my basement conditions are apparently not as optimal as I once thought.
I'm with you. I vegged a plant for nearly six months with three to four toppings per branch, and the buds it grew were kinda big, but clustered. I live in a dry climate (my RH hovers at 25% in my tent today), but I was still fighting humidity problems.

The plant itself generated an internal humidity that left me fighting PM, and I kept thinking back to your issues with bud rot. I blasted that thing with three fans and I bet I was moving a full tent air exchange every few minutes--and that made it manageable so I could continue the grow.

Still, I will never do that again.
 

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