Health issues(or benefits) from using Hallucinatory Substances....

So my two drugs of choice are whiskey and cannabis, if you consider them drugs. Ive tried mushrooms twice and LSD once when i was younger and had a decent time but never rushed out to do a bunch more.

My GF has anxiety and swears its from her having a bad trip of LSD in her early 20s. I know that anxiety disorders can develop at any time and she might well have had it develop even if she never did Psychs however....

Idk between her, Two separate friends who did Salvia and then felt like life wasnt real (one of them described her life as a "living nightmare" and honestly i felt the pain in her eyes when she was telling me) .

Friend of a friend went to a mental institution and my friend claims that he was tripping hard X2 a week on LSD and that he wasnt the same after all that.



I guess thsoe^^ are probably partly why i didnt get into psychs but im curious to hear your opinions and experiences. And if you did develop some kind of anxiety disorder if it went away over time or what you did to try to treat/solve it.
*Ive also have seen how they are doing trials in Switzerland or one in the US about using Psychs for terminal patients because it can help your mental and emotional outlook apparently, so im not trying to say that everyone who trips goes crazy. And that it can even have positive benefits.

Thanks

Ive honestly found that the HEAVY experiences can leave you a bit jumbled if you don't go into them....if you work through it you come out feeling amazing, if you sit and fight the trip the whole time you come out just feeling not so good.

Yes there are risks to psychedelics, it just seems a lil out of the norm to have so many friends that supposedly messed themselves up because if it...I am 100's of doses in over the past 10 or so years and am a well balanced (at least I think) father/husband/person

StickyTreez said:

So my two drugs of choice are whiskey and cannabis,

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I've tried most everything at least once and these are my fall backs...although I don't mind a bump or two occasionally. No more LSD, but would do mushrooms again.

I should qualify my experience and say that i know more people whov taken LSD or Shrooms alot and are fine than are messed up. But the ones who have developed problems regret ever taking anything.

Whiskey is certainly a drug and causes more societal harm than all illicit drug use combined.Psychedelics have risks and can help bring out issues that we weren't aware of prior. Some people are happier with all of their filters on.

MrEDuck said:

Whiskey is certainly a drug and causes more societal harm than all illicit drug use combined.Psychedelics have risks and can help bring out issues that we weren't aware of prior. Some people are happier with all of their filters on.

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Wow, describes my GF well, said she didnt know what anxiety was like before tripping and afterwards felt like that was partly the problem. Now shes on an SSRI to put back up that filter :/

Being said she had Intermittent explosive disorder (fancy talk for getting mad at little things) since she was a child. And since taking the SSRI its helped that loads in addition to helping the anxiety.

*and i see that quoted all the time. Dont get me wrong alcohol kills through lots of ways is bad for my liver, but the reason its more deadly is because more people do it.

If an equal number of people did hard drugs i dont think alcohol would be most damaging or have the highest fatalities (would be up near the top though)

300ug of LSD on a Friday is way more healthy for you than 1 beer or 1 bump of cocaine.

Mescaline is good for you , so is LSD and shrooms. My IQ has not diminished since I was in high school. I have a healthy and normal memory. I would not recommend you do psychedelics more than once a week if you have family to support and /or a job. But, then again, I would not recommend you drink more than that either. ....

• If an equal number of people did hard drugs i dont think alcohol would be most damaging or have the highest fatalities (would be up near the top though)​

  
  
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That does not make sense because Alcohol is more addictive than any other drug besides nicotine and heroin. Alcohol damages EVERY organ in your body and including your skin. Heroin is leaps and bounds more healthy for you that Alcohol.

Impman said:

300mg of LSD on a Friday is way more healthy for you than 1 beer or 1 bump of cocaine.

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Holy crap you are the messiah of LSD aren't ya...300ug/300mcg maybe..

I honestly wonder how often folks put themselves on meds after an experience...

It just doesn't seem right, there was something they missed or couldn't handle...I mean I have had to spend some time recovering after huge experiences...getting puddled then chewing on mescaline needles all night was one of them, took me a few weeks of work to get to the balanced place but no meds necessary....

I personally feel after such an experience it can create behavioral disorders because it is easier to cope with your new found headspace that way instead of grabbing on and working with it we allow anxiety or fear to spring up instead of dealing with what we have seen and felt, I know I ran into night paralysis after a strange combination of chems had it for about 6 months and it was my bodies/brains way of dealing with something I was not ready to except and deal with but instead of it manifesting into anxiety it showed up as waking up in the middle of the night scared shitless and unable to move/breath.

I will say overall entheogens have positively affected my life and many friends and acquaintances---even though's who have had to go onto meds for a minute it has ended up having a positive impact once they faced what they needed to....

LOL ug Sorry, Im extracting mescaline and got mg in my head

Yup alcohol is toxic heroin is not. However... if you look at statistics and boil it down to fatalities per 100 users heroin kills more than alcohol in the stats ive seen. Now maybe with a regulated system of heroin there would be less deaths because of clean needles, standard pure doses, more medical attention sought etc...

And idk i guess ive never done crack meth or heroin but id assume theyd be more addictive than alcohol but then again i guess i dont have exp

I def developed some problems and it kinda sucks man.. Just social anxiety and not feeling human.. I feel like i can make it as a mad man? Idfk lol. Shit does suck when ur lost and u dumno wtf even happened.. I think it happens to most ppl but they lie about it and it goes away cux they convince themselves.. And thats all it takes.. Idfk haha

And wat exactly are filters and how can i pill replace it? Its up to the person. A pill wudnt touch me. Itd piss me off haha

Filters are parts of our brain that decrease the amount of perceived information that we are consciously aware of in this usage. Psychedelic drugs have brought me to the understanding that life can be beautiful and wonderous. Without them I really doubt I'd have stuck around so long.

Mescaline needles?

Spicules, long thin crystals.

I thought he meant thorns..damn I was stoned..still am!lol

As Shulgin said, there are no casual experiments.

If you're going to go down that road you have to go all the way, turning back before the end will leave you crippled or insane.

I think one of the draw backs of psychedelics is the fact that the change you to where you 'get it' and living amongst millions who don't and never will really puts a negative twist in life..dealing with emotional dumbfucks and being frusterated with them on a daily basis and knowing you can't just scream at them 'hey,there's more to life than the matching color of your shoes and ballcap!!!'...its hard to relate to people when you know something way more profound than they will ever know or want to know..

MrEDuck said:

Filters are parts of our brain that decrease the amount of perceived information that we are consciously aware of in this usage. Psychedelic drugs have brought me to the understanding that life can be beautiful and wonderous. Without them I really doubt I'd have stuck around so long.

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So ur saying a anti depressant will bring my ass right back to reality? Lol