Heaven, Hell, and the Devil aren't real, but God is?

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God is the two jokers in a pack of cards.
The creation story is a card trick.

Psalm 53 says

1 The fool says in his heart,
“There is no God.”
They are corrupt, and their ways are vile;
there is no one who does good.
2 God looks down from heaven
on all mankind
to see if there are any who understand,
any who seek God.
3 Everyone has turned away, all have become corrupt;
there is no one who does good,
not even one.
4 Do all these evildoers know nothing?

time for a Gregorian chant in 432 hz

Sanctus Dominus Deus sabaoth
(Holy Lord God of Hosts)
Dona eis requiem
(Grant them rest) 2x
Qui tollis peccata mundi
(Who takes away the sins of the world)
Dona eis requiem
(Grant them rest) 2x

Sanctus Dominus Deus sabaoth
(Holy Lord God of Hosts)
Dona eis requiem
(Grant them rest) 2x
Qui tollis peccata mundi
(Who takes away the sins of the world)
Dona eis requiem
(Grant them rest) 2x

Sanctus Dominus Deus sabaoth
(Holy Lord God of Hosts)
Hosana in excelsis
(I believe in the highest)
Pleni sunt caeli et terra gloria tua
(Heaven and earth are full of your glory) 2x

Sanctus Dominus Deus sabaoth
(Holy Lord God of Hosts)
Dona eis requiem
(Grant then rest) 2x
Qui tollis peccata mundi
(Who takes away the sins of the world)
Dona eis requiem
(Grant then rest) 2x

Salve regina salve regina sempiternam
(Hail Holy Queen, Hail Holy Queen eternal)
Qui tollis peccata mundi
(Who takes away the sins of the world)
Dona eis requiem.
(Grant then rest.)

Sanctus Dominus Deus sabaoth
(Holy Lord God of Hosts)
Dona eis requiem
(Grant then rest) 2x
Qui tollis peccata mundi
(Who takes away the sins of the world)
Dona eis requiem (Grant then rest) 2x

Salve regina salve regina sempiternam
(Hail Holy Queen, Hail Holy Queen eternal)
Qui tollis peccata mundi
(Who takes away the sins of the world)
Dona eis requiem.
(Grant then rest.)

Sanctus Dominus Deus sabaoth
(Holy Lord God of Hosts)
Dona eis requiem
(Grant then rest) 2x
Qui tollis peccata mundi
(Who takes away the sins of the world)
Dona eis requiem (Grant then rest) 2x

Salve regina salve regina sempiternam
(Hail Holy Queen, Hail Holy Queen eternal)
Qui tollis peccata mundi
(Who takes away the sins of the world)
Dona eis requiem.
(Grant then rest.)

bursto said:

its pretty simple if the Atheists are right then we can pretty much just do whatever the hell we want and there is no consequences, if the believers, and also the bible (highest selling book of all time) is right, then we need to repent of our sins, or suffer Gods judgement.

if your a person that thinks religion causes wars and is full of pedophiles, then your right, but religions, like the catholic church and most of the other mainstream denominations, and reading the word of God are two different things.

Jesus didn't start any church called the seventh day Adventists, or Jehovah's witnesses, he came to earth to spread the good news about forgiveness of sins and bring people back to worshiping the one true God in their life, to stop worshipping idols, that have no power to help you.

if you turn on your Tv and hear Creflo O'Dollar, or Kenneth Copeland, asking for Money, i dont recall that in the bible either, to donate Money. Jesus wants you to be a good parent to your kids, and if your neighbor needs a hand you lend it, if someone hits you turn the other check, dont hit them back, Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life, he wants you to come to him for for salvation, healing, rest, and fulfillment.

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But why only 2 choices? Why can't to the atheists and the bible both be wrong?

Kola_Kreator said:

But why only 2 choices? Why can't to the atheists and the bible both be wrong?

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Because people like to be binary and think in opposites.
Why can’t both be right? That’s another question.
Because for something to be true it’s opposite must also be true.

Kola_Kreator said:

But why only 2 choices? Why can't to the atheists and the bible both be wrong?

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the bible has to many fulfilled prophecies to be simply dismissed, one must conclude that if given a choice between the Atheist/Darwinian view of the creation of man, (being descended, from apes), or the Christian view, (being created from the dust by God), to choose from, it is more plausible, to put trust in the bible view that god breathed life into us, and that we are a separate creation from the animals, and made in the likeness of Gods image.

Unless you guys can show me a gorilla playing Mozart, on the violin, ill put my trust in the bible version of events.
i'll let Pastor Jennings explain

bursto said:

the bible has to many fulfilled prophecies to be simply dismissed, one must conclude that if given a choice between the Atheist/Darwinian view of the creation of man, (being descended, from apes), or the Christian view, (being created from the dust by God), to choose from, it is more plausible, to put trust in the bible view that god breathed life into us, and that we are a separate creation from the animals, and made in the likeness of Gods image.

Unless you guys can show me a gorilla playing Mozart, on the violin, ill put my trust in the bible version of events.
i'll let Pastor Jennings explain

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You didn't answer my question.

Kola_Kreator said:

You didn't answer my question.

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you haven't given any other, options, than the two theories that are in question, evolution made us, or God made us in his image, what third or fourth options are there?

option 3 the storks

no playing Halo with the Monks chanting in the background, you guys, i know you want to

just kidding im not a catholic, just thought it was soothing music, is why i posted that,

i had no idea what they were saying until i found the translation, and put it up here to listen and read at the same time

Took me ages of scrolling to find that

Kola_Kreator said:

And although it feels impossible your ability to influence reality is limitless

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Teach me!

Your post intrigued and had me looking at possibilities that haven't previously been explored. I'm guessing that tapping into the subconscious is at play. One gives power to what one gives attention to.

CBT has taught that absolute language is close minded. I try to me mindful that we can be self defeating by our language. Keep things positive and optimistic. Example: instead of saying you can't (absolute word) do something, express that you struggle with it or find it difficult.

This graphic has me pondering/considering that what we do to others, we do to ourselves, as we're all connected. Some like to intentionally harm others, being oblivious that it'll hurt themselves in a round about way eventually.

There's no real evidence that animals evolved in any way, other than fake pieced together skeletons. Obviously fabricated, using different bones from different species. There's only 2 known full "dinosaur" skeletons in existence btw. They are supposedly locked up under the Vatican, where maybe 2 or 3 paleontologists have ever had visual access.. without cameras of course. More likely to be real dragons IMO, if there actually are even bones down there! The rest of the dinos are all plastered together into molds, and mass produced for museums. A massive hoax, including any half evolved ape men. That's right, the ancient fairy tales with dragons are likely even more real than the man made science alien space fiction they've entertained and indoctrinated everyone with from birth over the last few hundreds of years.

At the end of the day, scientist/astrologist/etc are completely baffled as to how the world is actually made up, and what really holds everything together. Many claim/admit there is the existence of some mysterious "5th force" or possible "god particles" now, but they will never be sure as to what anything is, with any of the corrupted scientific methods known. Every day there are multiple articles claiming all the old general theories about everything are wrong, because they always find something new that contradicts everything we once thought. Especially the so called big bang. Keep the masses believing everything just appeared all at once out of nothing, with no actual proof! It's almost as if they are all paid off to perpetually keep the existence of god and his word secret, and keep the majority of people blind to the truth. Feed everyone a constant supply of bogus new computer generated theories that always try to cover up existence of grand design. By any means neccessary. They even push the test buttons at the special LIGO radar facilities to fake the gravitational waves, to keep the aging heliocentric and relativety theories alive.. FFS. If they (pretty much everyone of a working class at this point) don't complete their pre determined tasks at hand, the boss will give them "hell" the next day. Keep everyone living in fear all the time, and not of god. There is always a higher up boss in every chain, each consecutively more and more corrupted by evil.. It's as if every last dollar bill.. or unit of energy in exchange leads right back up the pyramid to Satan himself. The master of light & illusions, who has control over the populations. Way more control over certain commanders, higher ups, and otherwise influential people, who completely sold out their souls in some way or another. All of us to some extent though, except maybe some of the uncontacted tribes, who can literally see the demons that posses us, and would spear them (you) in a heartbeat! Organized religion is all corrupt too. Pretty much everyone is..

God help us!

Drop That Sound said:

Before I found god.. when I would step in dog shit.. it would ruin my day, and anyone around would laugh and make fun. I didn't understand why shit like that happens, and even asked god to damn it. Now if it happens, I realize that god is just testing me, and also has the ultimate sense of humor! I laugh too when it happens now, and keep a smile on my face. I love and thank god for that shit! I now know that every shit test that is thrown at me makes me stronger spiritually, especially if I respond instead of react in an ungodly way. God literally gives me super warrior shit powers, and people will run if I start chasing them. When you fear nothing but god, and are covered in shit, it's like you have a protective bubble around you. No one will fuck with you. NO one!

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I’m glad you found away to be at peace with yourself, that’s why gods exist, for those with weaker constitutions to have guidance. Personally, I’m glad it’s there for those who need it, if it keeps someone from doing bad it’s doing a little good.

Take now behemoth, whom I made as I did you;
He eats grass, like the cattle.
His strength is in his loins,
His might in the muscles of his belly
He makes his tail stand up like a cedar;
The sinews of his thighs are knit together.
His bones are like tubes of bronze,
His limbs like iron rods.
He is the first of God’s works;
Only his Maker can draw the sword against him.
The mountains yield him produce,
Where all the beasts of the field play.
He lies down beneath the lotuses,
In the cover of the swamp reeds.
The lotuses embower him with shade;
The willows of the brook surround him.
He can restrain the river from its rushing;
He is confident the stream will gush at his command.
Can he be taken by his eyes?
Can his nose be pierced by hooks?
— Job 40:15-24[5]

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The passage later pairs Behemoth with the sea-monster Leviathan, both composite mythical creatures with enormous strength that humans could not hope to control, yet both are reduced to the status of divine pets

bursto said:

The passage later pairs Behemoth with the sea-monster Leviathan, both composite mythical creatures with enormous strength that humans could not hope to control, yet both are reduced to the status of divine pets

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Nah the dinosaur didn’t eat grass dude.
It has a long neck for eating tree.

Jesus didn’t write the bible so most of it is just stories that have been embellished to sound more fantastical.

I don’t believe Jesus turned water to wine. I think he just changed peoples perceptions.

I don’t think Moses or whoever parted the ‘red sea’ I think he parted an army and prevented a sea of blood.

The bible is just 2000 years of rewriting a book and it’s has been modified like a game of Chinese whispers.

The bible probably wasn’t even written in English the first time hey? So I reckon their has been a shit tonne of creative license go on with the ‘good book’

HenryTheEighth said:

Nah the dinosaur didn’t eat grass dude.
It has a long neck for eating tree.

Jesus didn’t write the bible so most of it is just stories that have been embellished to sound more fantastical.

I don’t believe Jesus turned water to wine. I think he just changed peoples perceptions.

I don’t think Moses or whoever parted the ‘red sea’ I think he parted an army and prevented a sea of blood.

The bible is just 2000 years of rewriting a book and it’s has been modified like a game of Chinese whispers.

The bible probably wasn’t even written in English the first time hey? So I reckon their has been a shit tonne of creative license go on with the ‘good book’

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Where do i even start with that, when i was in the military, there was a guy i looked up to at the time he said something like that, and that the bible was written to keep people under control and/or obeying their Masters etc.. etc.. after getting a brain i realized he was wrong about a lot of stuff, and nothing he said was worth a pinch of salt, so i tried reading it for my self.

The truth is Moses wrote the first books in the bible Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy in the old testament, he was inspired by direct revelation from god, then after that, various prophets of god, such as Joshua and Samuel with their scribes or understudies that could edit and finish of works started by the said prophet once they died. New testament was written by the Apostles they were Jesus's followers, and first hand witnesses, and by Paul who was converted to Christianity after seeing the risen Christ, on the road to Damascus.

Moses parting the sea and defeating the Egyptians, was known by many of the enemies of the Hebrews, they feared them because of it

As there are12 tribes of Israel, some minor facts that each tribe argued over points of view exist, hardly anything to worry about unless you a Hebrew scholar.

i read the bible as the word of God handed directly to the prophets of God, for Gods People to follow

I wasn't going to get into this thread, but there are some things that aren't that common of knowledge.

Mario Biglino, a former translator for the Vatican, was fired on the spot for giving them a DIRECT AND LITERAL translation of the Hebrew bible. (I think the first five books). He defines the Old Testament as the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament as the Greek Bible.

Their main objection was that he showed that the word "Elohim" was always translated as "God". However, if you read the interlinear translation it plainly says their are MANY GODS. We don't know the exact meaning of the word but the "meaning of the word" was assigned the word "God".

His book is "Gods of the Bible"and is about $20 on Amazon. He is also on You Tube.

This book answered questions that no bible expert could answer to my satisfaction.

I would be afraid to say that there is no God. What if there is and He says "OK. then, there's no DancesWithWeeds".