help ..with drying and grow prob.. please

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btripooo

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im having a prob with my growing...

i have two questions please try too answer both..

my first problem is this is my second grow and though iv gotten better i still notice that the bud i buy on the street is buddy. its nuggets or fluffy bud...
when i grow it looks great on the plant,lol, but when it dries it looks like grass.. the flowers shrink ridiculously and it looks like grass..
this is after i take of all fan leaves and damn near all smaller and even most sugar leaves { for curing purposes }...
it looks like leaves and hairs..

now im wondering why other peoples bud {the bud i buy} is so plump and buddy ,lol, and mine is not..
i had thought it was just the kind of bud but everything i grow looks so nice on the plant colas the size of half gallon milk containers maybe a lil smaller,
then when it dries im left with this airy looking nothing , leaf and hairs


the second problem is drying ..

i read and read and it all says somethin like 67-80 degrees for drying and it should take at least a week.
now i admit i dont have a termostat in my dry room but my dry room { my 4x4 grow tent } is room temp.
in my second grow tent its a constant 85f, so i know my dry tent temp is fine .. but when i hang my p-lants it only take about 2 1/2 - 3 days to dry
now i try and try ..and read and read so i can succeed in this but i need help ..

please any experienced grower who understands my problem i need assistance

thank you
 
Chiggachamp

Chiggachamp

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They r drying to quick. Put in paper bag then in ur tent move around every couple hours. And put em in jars sooner.
U want ur meds to have sum moisture still in em.
But once ur nugs go under 45 Rh the curing stops i think thats ur prob.
And once it stops thats it. Hope that helps
 
nick88

nick88

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Try putting a small container of water with a small fan blowing over it to help keep your humidity in check. They're drying way to fast.
 
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btripooo

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Chiggachamp said:
They r drying to quick. Put in paper bag then in ur tent move around every couple hours. And put em in jars sooner.
U want ur meds to have sum moisture still in em.
But once ur nugs go under 45 Rh the curing stops i think thats ur prob.
And once it stops thats it. Hope that helps
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what is rh i keep seeing this

and will the slower drying decrees the shrinkage ,
i put jar them right away
is your finished product stinky...
i ask cause i want to know when they reach a decent moisture level do i stop burping and leave closed or not and does burping bring out the exotic smell or is it how long u leave it closed that does it.. all info i read on curing dont discuss this.. im trying to completly understand the process but there are so many answers that leave major info out

right now i have some haze and aurora indica curing that in my opinion has reached perfect moisture level but dont know wiether to continue burping or not.. the goal is to get stinky buds but if it gets stinky when u burp then i w3anna burp it, if no9t then i wont .. i need to know ,, cant find a answer ..
at first i thought curing was almost identical to fermenting ,like wine but i dont know please help...

no vague answers please
only people with experience please..
please dont recite something i read someplace else thank you..
 
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btripooo

Member
nick88 said:
Try putting a small container of water with a small fan blowing over it to help keep your humidity in check. They're drying way to fast.
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i did this and it worked pretty well,dried alot slower ... but the same thin happens i end up with bud that looks like fresh mexican brick compared to the big nugs and fat cola before dry..

unless this is the result achieved from growing in soil and the only way to get dry bud that looks like the high grade i buy on the street{nuggets} is to grow hydroponicly ..
i mean i dont know ,does some one have a answer or a theory..

once again only experienced growers,, thanks
 
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btripooo

Member
Can some one tell me
i have haze and a/i curing now and i believe there at a perfect moisture level. My question is ..is it burping or keeping the jar closed that make the process work ..
I want stink bud so should i burp or keep closed for as long as possible..

Please experienced growers only
please dont recite something i read somewhere else..
Im looking for experience not a magazine article..

Thank u
 
SelfDutchOven

SelfDutchOven

Active Member
How long did you flower?
What lights
More info man.

I cut mine down hang whole for a week at 55-60rh then trim... my buds are stinky the day they get put into jars..
 
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btripooo

Member
SelfDutchOven said:
How long did you flower?
What lights
More info man.

I cut mine down hang whole for a week at 55-60rh then trim... my buds are stinky the day they get put into jars..
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4w veg
9 weeks flower 600 switchable and 1000 w hps
my buds are dry by that time but stems are still bendable
how do u do yours
all info please
 
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bigsteve

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First problem -- If your buds are scrawny the blame is probably in one or both of these areas; genetics or lighting.
If you got some bagseed beans then genetics may be at fault. If you got seeds from ditchweed you are going to grow
ditchweed. If you have confidence in your seeds, or if you bought them from a reputable dealer, you probably have a
lighting problem and that means not enough wattage is getting to your plants. I'm guessing you have some kind of
flourescant light going, maybe 100W or so? Then that's your problem. Plants grow fat nugs when they have the 3
necessary ingredients; water, nutes and light. If the plants aren't drooping you are watering OK. If you put nutes in
the water occassionally you are OK there. Now, either get more lighting, or in the mean time, place your plants up
closer to the light. A plant 2 feet from the light gets 4 times as much growing energy from the light as one 4 feet from the light.

Second problem -- Temperature isn't the important number when drying/curing. Humidity is. If the humidity is high and it is rainy for
a couple days your room-exposed bud will dry very slowly. Drying occurs unevenly within buds due to difference in size. Small nugs
dry out quicker than larger ones. Therefore: if you leave all your buds out to dry in the same time period you are going to have crispy small buds and
not-yet-dry larger buds. Trick is to even out the moisture so it all has the same moisture content. If your drying produces crispyness after 3 days,
stop drying after 2 days while there is still some moisture in your nugs. Then put everything in a glass jar that has some kind of seal.
Those 24 oz. canning jars are perfect. Put the sealed jar in the 'fridge overnight. Check and see that the bud will have a uniform texture
after 24 hours sealed up. So, you air-dried for 2 days, sealed it in glass for 24 hours and checked to see if the moisture level is to your
liking. If still too moist open the glass jar and let sit at room temperature for 24 hours and check again. The bud will dry out a bit more from
the exposure. Check again. As soon as you are happy with the results, leave the bud sealed in glass and store in the 'fridge.

Got any more specific questions feel free to send me a private message and I will respond.

Good luck, BigSteve (around 50 grows since '06).
 
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btripooo

Member
btripooo said:
4w veg
9 weeks flower 600 switchable and 1000 w hps
my buds are dry by that time but stems are still bendable
how do u do yours
all info please
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the plants that have a smell only smell untill they dry then they smell like sweet hay
im trying to get that smell back ..help
 
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btripooo

Member
bigsteve said:
First problem -- If your buds are scrawny the blame is probably in one or both of these areas; genetics or lighting.
If you got some bagseed beans then genetics may be at fault. If you got seeds from ditchweed you are going to grow
ditchweed. If you have confidence in your seeds, or if you bought them from a reputable dealer, you probably have a
lighting problem and that means not enough wattage is getting to your plants. I'm guessing you have some kind of
flourescant light going, maybe 100W or so? Then that's your problem. Plants grow fat nugs when they have the 3
necessary ingredients; water, nutes and light. If the plants aren't drooping you are watering OK. If you put nutes in
the water occassionally you are OK there. Now, either get more lighting, or in the mean time, place your plants up
closer to the light. A plant 2 feet from the light gets 4 times as much growing energy from the light as one 4 feet from the light.

Second problem -- Temperature isn't the important number when drying/curing. Humidity is. If the humidity is high and it is rainy for
a couple days your room-exposed bud will dry very slowly. Drying occurs unevenly within buds due to difference in size. Small nugs
dry out quicker than larger ones. Therefore: if you leave all your buds out to dry in the same time period you are going to have crispy small buds and
not-yet-dry larger buds. Trick is to even out the moisture so it all has the same moisture content. If your drying produces crispyness after 3 days,
stop drying after 2 days while there is still some moisture in your nugs. Then put everything in a glass jar that has some kind of seal.
Those 24 oz. canning jars are perfect. Put the sealed jar in the 'fridge overnight. Check and see that the bud will have a uniform texture
after 24 hours sealed up. So, you air-dried for 2 days, sealed it in glass for 24 hours and checked to see if the moisture level is to your
liking. If still too moist open the glass jar and let sit at room temperature for 24 hours and check again. The bud will dry out a bit more from
the exposure. Check again. As soon as you are happy with the results, leave the bud sealed in glass and store in the 'fridge.

Got any more specific questions feel free to send me a private message and I will respond.

Good luck, BigSteve (around 50 grows since '06).
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thanks brother
tell me though ..my buds look great on the plant but scrawny when dried is this normal or due to some problem
 
H R Puff N Stuff

H R Puff N Stuff

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all buds lose about 75% water wieght so ya they will shrink but if you have a 1000 watter then light shouldnt be your problem what nutes do you use and did you have a pest prob that could of slowed growth.
 
SelfDutchOven

SelfDutchOven

Active Member
Where your seed come from? You having any stress issues what about feeding schedule fresh air is also a must.

Im growing in soil and im getting club results. Your only on 2nd pull man you got alot left to dial in
 
missnu

missnu

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Are you sure you aren't taking the plants too early...before they have had a chance to bulk up? I will admit I have done that once or twice...took what I thought was done, only to find it all deflated and I really had nothing...buds kind of layer up as the plant flowers...so they get thicker and thicker and thicker...but if you chop them down before they grow in more substance you would be left wit nothing but hairs as you said...
 
KoldKream6

KoldKream6

Active Member
nick88 said:
Try putting a small container of water with a small fan blowing over it to help keep your humidity in check. They're drying way to fast.
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I read your complaint. Yes I do agree with Nick88 and Chiggachamp that your plants are drying too fast, however, you should monitor the process by seeing if the stem can snap in your finger. If so then the harvest is ready for curing. Place your buds within an air tight jar and just put a whole fan leaf within the jar. The bud will pull from the moisture of the fan leaf that you put in the jar with the bud over night and your buds will regain their fluffiness. DO NOT STUFF THE MASON JAR WITH BUD TO THE TIP TOP. Make sure there is room or space and allow your jar to be opened 1 hour a day. What type of strain are you growing?
 
KoldKream6

KoldKream6

Active Member
Also, did the hairs on your buds turn orange? How do you know that your plants have fully matured? < I asked this question because I'm concerned that you might've rushed it. Secondly, I asked you previously what type of strain are you growing because different strains have different growth durations. Mostly Indica dominant strains have a shorter time span(up to 55 to 65 days) while Sativa might take 4 months and that's not including the curing process..
 
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btripooo

Member
KoldKream6 said:
Also, did the hairs on your buds turn orange? How do you know that your plants have fully matured? < I asked this question because I'm concerned that you might've rushed it. Secondly, I asked you previously what type of strain are you growing because different strains have different growth durations. Mostly Indica dominant strains have a shorter time span(up to 55 to 65 days) while Sativa might take 4 months and that's not including the curing process..
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9 week flower
it was some freebie seeds labeled{ mixed seeds x skunk x haze }
they took of flowering about week 6
and about 60-70 percent hairs turned
they were classic haze phyicly ecxept for 1 which grew bush like and the bud on that was white . and didnt have a exotic smell untill two days before i cut it..

another thing why is it that i check other peoples grow reports and vids and theyre colas or buds period look sooooooo damn big at say week 4 or 5 .
i figuer maybe theyre lying but every body ?
now i feed decently and my lights obviously arent the problem.
im so lost ,with this one ..my plants dont look like the vids other people put up untill about week 7 and they say theyres is on like week 4 or 5 ..

please help
 
SelfDutchOven

SelfDutchOven

Active Member
My guess is just cut to early.....your buds should look like they want to explode dude.. cutting late is always better than early in my book .. did you look at it under scope at all??
 
|B3RNY|

|B3RNY|

Well-Known Member
btripooo said:
9 week flower
it was some freebie seeds labeled{ mixed seeds x skunk x haze }
they took of flowering about week 6
and about 60-70 percent hairs turned
they were classic haze phyicly ecxept for 1 which grew bush like and the bud on that was white . and didnt have a exotic smell untill two days before i cut it..

another thing why is it that i check other peoples grow reports and vids and theyre colas or buds period look sooooooo damn big at say week 4 or 5 .
i figuer maybe theyre lying but every body ?
now i feed decently and my lights obviously arent the problem.
im so lost ,with this one ..my plants dont look like the vids other people put up untill about week 7 and they say theyres is on like week 4 or 5 ..

please help
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Both Skunk and Haze strains can be great yielders and you have a 1k-watter, so light shouldn't be the issue.. what are the temps like when you are growing? And what/how do you feed? Those could only be the real problem unless there was more Haze bred into those seeds, in that case you would have harvested much too early; some Haze strains flower for nearly 16 weeks. ...or perhaps they sent you "dud" freebies? Eventually you will be able to imagine the size of a nug post-cure by looking at it.
 
|B3RNY|

|B3RNY|

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If light, water, nutrients, temperature, humidity and Co2 levels are optimal (relative to each other), then choice of strain will be your most influential factor.
 
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