rkymtnman
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airlines make a billion a year and now they need a bailout. but i can only get a credit not a refund on our trip to San Diego we had to cancel
How much income are you losing to the covid-19 pandemic?
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Fogdog
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So, which actions do you think the people who posted in this thread aren't doing? With the exception of the dickhead who bragged about how they were going to make bank on home foreclosures, that is.
MICHI-CAN
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Isn't it the socialist police who protect them?
rkymtnman
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taco bell was about to go ape shit on you (again)
dandyrandy
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It's good to laugh.
rkymtnman
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damn skippy. you live longer.
MICHI-CAN
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Tis better to dispel ones beverages from their nostrils amongst brethren. Here, here.
Fogdog
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Fascists do exactly the same. Trump's Republicans are neo-fascism incarnate.
FIFy
MICHI-CAN
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Please don't put words in my mouth. I don't intend to put anything of mine in yours.
Fogdog
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I merely corrected your post. The police in the US are clearly infiltrated and often run by people who are fascist or fascist-leaning.
If you lived here you wouldn't be so badly mistaken on this.
PJ Diaz
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They love Socialism for the rich.
MICHI-CAN
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And in all earnest I only hope we may both broaden our view. Yet do not correct me. Confront, consult or console. Your disrespect shows your years and habits. And it's a piss poor way to make converts. Peace. LOL.
Fogdog
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I am correcting you. You are mistaken. The main problem with today's Republican party and many cop departments are that they are controlled by fascists, not socialists.
rkymtnman
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i agree with that. and why not? the uber rich use the protectionism of Socialism and reap the rewards of Capitalism. to be honest, i would do the same if i was in their boat.
rkymtnman
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not to get in the middle, but i think he only meant the public police is a part of Socialism. like fire dept.
if i'm wrong, keep up the war of words. i miss live sports!!
MICHI-CAN
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Controlled by yes. Established and maintained by socialism. Finish that joint already.
Fogdog
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Republicans are fascist, their actions regarding the fed and trying to control COVID 19 testing, taking control of developing the vaccine, etc. are completely in line with fascist doctrine.
The reason I bring this up is because what Bernie and Democratic Socialists are trying to achieve is not anything like what @MICHI-CAN is describing as socialism.
Fascism
Where socialism sought totalitarian control of a society’s economic processes through direct state operation of the means of production, fascism sought that control indirectly, through domination of nominally private owners. Where socialism nationalized property explicitly, fascism did so implicitly, by requiring owners to use their property in the “national interest”—that is, as the autocratic authority conceived it. (Nevertheless, a few industries were operated by the state.)
Where socialism abolished all market relations outright, fascism left the appearance of market relations while planning all economic activities. Where socialism abolished money and prices, fascism controlled the monetary system and set all prices and wages politically. In doing all this, fascism denatured the marketplace. Entrepreneurship was abolished. State ministries, rather than consumers, determined what was produced and under what conditions.
The reason I bring this up is because what Bernie and Democratic Socialists are trying to achieve is not anything like what @MICHI-CAN is describing as socialism.
Fascism - Econlib
As an economic system, fascism is socialism with a capitalist veneer. The word derives from fasces, the Roman symbol of collectivism and power: a tied bundle of rods with a protruding ax. In its day (the 1920s and 1930s), fascism was seen as the happy medium between boom-and-bust-prone liberal...
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Where socialism sought totalitarian control of a society’s economic processes through direct state operation of the means of production, fascism sought that control indirectly, through domination of nominally private owners. Where socialism nationalized property explicitly, fascism did so implicitly, by requiring owners to use their property in the “national interest”—that is, as the autocratic authority conceived it. (Nevertheless, a few industries were operated by the state.)
Where socialism abolished all market relations outright, fascism left the appearance of market relations while planning all economic activities. Where socialism abolished money and prices, fascism controlled the monetary system and set all prices and wages politically. In doing all this, fascism denatured the marketplace. Entrepreneurship was abolished. State ministries, rather than consumers, determined what was produced and under what conditions.
Fogdog
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I think I touched a nerve and am now plucking on it to make it sing. I miss live music.
Fogdog
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Nope, Republicans under Trump are utterly fascist. A lot of police departments are infiltrated by fascists. This is well known.
Why are you defending fascists?
rkymtnman
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this shit is gonna get old quickly. i'll be happy to isolate and be alive at the end, but our lives are about to change incredibly