I hate trimming thread!

Clockin out for the day. 10 wks full. Slight early chop just localized branches of white some hairs just a couple branches. Rest was 100% red haired.

Decent chop didnt take me for a spin was done enough and yielded more bud than the others. I might be losin the pheno, the rosin return will let me know. If its 12% instead of 15-18%.
 

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@Jjgrow420

Maybe youd be the one to ask since you turn so much of yours to extracts. You ever see such a large decline in return for no reason because its random or could a loss of a pheno be the culprit? Like 20% clones all the way down to 12%?

I was getting 20%, 19%, 17% then 15% now 12%. Used to always be 12% then hand trimming raised it to 20% but now its creepin its way down low as if I machine trimmed it. Which if I did Im pretty sure id get less than 12%. Theyre still just as frosty but lack hash in that frost.
 
@Jjgrow420

Maybe youd be the one to ask since you turn so much of yours to extracts. You ever see such a large decline in return for no reason because its random or could a loss of a pheno be the culprit? Like 20% clones all the way down to 12%?

I was getting 20%, 19%, 17% then 15% now 12%. Used to always be 12% then hand trimming raised it to 20% but now its creepin its way down low as if I machine trimmed it. Which if I did Im pretty sure id get less than 12%. Theyre still just as frosty but lack hash in that frost.
Are you making rosin?
There's prob a lot of contributing factors that could make a lesser yield.... Id prob start with human error because that's the most likely culprit. There's so many steps involved from grow to press that really any variation within those parameters could and would return different results....
I really don't go as far as weighing and calculating anymore. I know if use x amount of bud I should get around x amount of said extract. If I get more or less what my avg tends to be I don't investigate any further. If it's way off low then I'll prob look at wtf I did wrong try another run and if same result then I start working backwards and try to figure out where I went wrong.
 
Yea flower rosin, everythings been as close to the same as possible up to now. Nothings turned my pucks into jelly doughnuts like hand trimming and upping the temps on the press. It even seems more potent and tasty.

Only things been different is I dry my bud horrendously but was going to dry some of it as normal as test that. Ive hit ok numbers since using box fan on each clone overhead and rh below 45%. So I dont think thats it.

I harvest the entire plant at once and press every bit of it and label my yield in % in that jar. Each clone gets its own jar. So I notice all kinds of differences between clones. Suddenly my flower rosin is black almost but besides that and struggling yield its ok. Ive yielded blonde rosin with box fan on it but was dried normal.

Now Im drying in flower room 80F and 35rh dries in 3-5 days. Before eould be 5-8days. I dont get why more time in acceptable enviorment vs less time in flash dry conditions would be culprit. Seems obvious at first but Ive had blonde rosin in all same conditions even in horrid dry conditions.

Hash doesnt just dissapear, now maybe before you can extract it but not a quater ounce lost out of an ounce difference. It grows in that enviorment, its just drying really quick in there too.

Man I wish it was all well known and if it is Id love to accept it and do whatever I have to but my grow is such a research lab. The way I cant get one to explain each thing I get conflicting results with. Its all I want, no smoking so if I dont get it I really lose out on it. So I track it pretty well. I know terps will be lost but a quater oz gone? Hand trimmed? Never agitated?

I appreciate the insight I was thinking I have to be the culprit and maybe am but will keep my focus on that direction. I was planning on running 6 new strains before end of this year hoping I just get something thats always clocking above 20%.
 
Yea flower rosin, everythings been as close to the same as possible up to now. Nothings turned my pucks into jelly doughnuts like hand trimming and upping the temps on the press. It even seems more potent and tasty.

Only things been different is I dry my bud horrendously but was going to dry some of it as normal as test that. Ive hit ok numbers since using box fan on each clone overhead and rh below 45%. So I dont think thats it.

I harvest the entire plant at once and press every bit of it and label my yield in % in that jar. Each clone gets its own jar. So I notice all kinds of differences between clones. Suddenly my flower rosin is black almost but besides that and struggling yield its ok. Ive yielded blonde rosin with box fan on it but was dried normal.

Now Im drying in flower room 80F and 35rh dries in 3-5 days. Before eould be 5-8days. I dont get why more time in acceptable enviorment vs less time in flash dry conditions would be culprit. Seems obvious at first but Ive had blonde rosin in all same conditions even in horrid dry conditions.

Hash doesnt just dissapear, now maybe before you can extract it but not a quater ounce lost out of an ounce difference. It grows in that enviorment, its just drying really quick in there too.

Man I wish it was all well known and if it is Id love to accept it and do whatever I have to but my grow is such a research lab. The way I cant get one to explain each thing I get conflicting results with. Its all I want, no smoking so if I dont get it I really lose out on it. So I track it pretty well. I know terps will be lost but a quater oz gone? Hand trimmed? Never agitated?

I appreciate the insight I was thinking I have to be the culprit and maybe am but will keep my focus on that direction. I was planning on running 6 new strains before end of this year hoping I just get something thats always clocking above 20%.
Ya I duno man. It you dry poorly you get oxidizing which turns your products dark. Dry is Just as important as growing. I do everything I can to dry in an ideal environment.
 
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