if god existed

Back in the day when unenlightend people envented god they seen the heavens above and thats where heaven was.

Then we explored the heavens we found well lets say heaven was not there where did it go?

You can say it is yet to be found but if you look at the persepion of heaven when religion ie christians the bible were made up or

forced upon us heaven was above the earth did it just move home.Yeh i get space is infinet.If you beleave in spirits/ghosts you can see them

heaven is where they go we go.If heaven is farther than just above the earth then howcome no one has seen spirits going through space to heaven?

The sh## i think about stoned

Hmm. Space is infinite? I don't know. Hey check out this video of our known universe after a splifferino.

[video=youtube;17jymDn0W6U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17jymDn0W6U[/video]

You've opened up a can of worms there buddy!

Nice video, but don't be fooled that the universe is 13.7 billion years old, OR that we're in the center of our universe. We only know that it is at least 13.7 billion years old.

I'll try to find a vid of the galactic cluster superstructure of our universe.. Now thats really cool to see.

I wasn't fooled by the video, if by being fooled by it means I enjoyed it.

I personally believe the Earth is 10,000 years old, and have scientific evidence to back that up.

jonblaze420 said:

I wasn't fooled by the video, if by being fooled by it means I enjoyed it.

I personally believe the Earth is 10,000 years old, and have scientific evidence to back that up.

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Just saying, the video clearly shows the universe as a sphere with Earth dead-center in the middle. This is not so.

The real truth is that the Earth rotates around the Pope, and the Sun and Moon rotate around the Earth, and the earth is flat but its the curvature of spacetime that makes it appear round.

I am intrigued can you please tell me more?

I don't quite understand. How can the universe be a sphere?

Mickey O'Neil said:

The real truth is that the Earth rotates around the Pope, and the Sun and Moon rotate around the Earth, and the earth is flat but its the curvature of spacetime that makes it appear round.

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Nice save!

Well, this thread was interesting, and fun. Thanks half loaf. Like your AV btw, looks like that dude's havin fun.

jonblaze420 said:

I wasn't fooled by the video, if by being fooled by it means I enjoyed it.

I personally believe the Earth is 10,000 years old, and have scientific evidence to back that up.

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But is it correct scientific evidence? The vast preponderance of investigations has come up with an age for the planet of 4.5 billion years, give or take a hundred million. cn

jonblaze420 said:

I am intrigued can you please tell me more?

I don't quite understand. How can the universe be a sphere?

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WTF? Oh I get it. TROLLOLOLOLOL

Well, it's scientific evidence from NASA. It has to do with how much moon dust should be on the surface of the moon. They did tests and not surprisingly there should be about a substantial amount of more<edit> *dust* on there.

Another thing that got me wondering has to do with the Sun. Apparently it should be much much bigger if it's that old.

I don't know what to believe anymore, I'm kind of content with that. I like to do my own science experiments, I'm rooting an avocado pit in a glass of water right now.

Mickey O'Neil said:

WTF? Oh I get it. TROLLOLOLOLOL

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Mickey, if you'd watched the whole video you'd see that the known universe is not represented by a sphere in that video.

jonblaze420 said:

Mickey, if you'd watched the whole video you'd see that the known universe is not represented by a sphere in that video.

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Right, and we're not in the center but "close enough". Nonsense.

Mickey O'Neil said:

Right, and we're not in the center but "close enough". Nonsense.

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What if it is?

jonblaze420 said:

What if it is?

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3:36 in the video. Sure looks like a sphere to me. And its depicting the Solar System in the perfect center of it. Ridiculous! There's a very good reason why we can only see so far. If you were trapped in your bedroom you might think the universe was your bedroom.

Mickey O'Neil said:

3:36 in the video. Sure looks like a sphere to me. And its depicting the Solar System in the perfect center of it. Ridiculous! There's a very good reason why we can only see so far. If you were trapped in your bedroom you might think the universe was your bedroom.

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I can see why they did that in the video, it's because right in the beginning they showed the Earth, which is spherical ( I think ) and then compared it to the known universe in a similar spatial representation.

That's a great anecdote by the way.

halfloaf said:

Back in the day when unenlightend people envented god they seen the heavens above and thats where heaven was.

Then we explored the heavens we found well lets say heaven was not there where did it go?

You can say it is yet to be found but if you look at the persepion of heaven when religion ie christians the bible were made up or

forced upon us heaven was above the earth did it just move home.Yeh i get space is infinet.If you beleave in spirits/ghosts you can see them

heaven is where they go we go.If heaven is farther than just above the earth then howcome no one has seen spirits going through space to heaven?

The sh## i think about stoned

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I once had someone try to convince me that hell is in the center of the earth, it meets all the criteria what with the heat and magma (lake of fire) etc. and that it's more than big enough to hold the souls of every person that died even if no one went to heaven. Almost had me finding it interesting until I was like "Wait, how the fuck do you know how massive a soul is?".

I think in order to believe in such places you have to accept they're in a realm beyond that of the physical and are inaccessible to us no matter how far into space or the center of the earth we go. But that's all faith, and if it works for you, more power to you.

As far as no one seeing spirits going through space to heaven I think it goes back to it being generally accepted you can't "see" a soul. Even if you can weigh it. Well maybe that explains my previous question on how you know how many souls you can cram into a given space.

Now I'm wondering how much the containment system the Ghostbusters have must weigh with all those souls in it.

I just did a little reading on the net and I found out the Hollow Earth Theory is related to Admiral Byrd. Didn't know that. Well, learn somethin new every day I guess.

jonblaze420 said:

Well, it's scientific evidence from NASA. It has to do with how much moon dust should be on the surface of the moon. They did tests and not surprisingly there should be about a substantial amount of more<edit> *dust* on there.

Another thing that got me wondering has to do with the Sun. Apparently it should be much much bigger if it's that old.

I don't know what to believe anymore, I'm kind of content with that. I like to do my own science experiments, I'm rooting an avocado pit in a glass of water right now.

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The dust is thick enough to account for tens of millions of years easily. I suspect that this isn't "data from NASA" but "data from NASA spun into a contrarian hypothesis whose agenda came from outside NASA". But without a link, I'm blue-skying here. cn

<add> I've been Googling about moon and meteorite dust and the solar system age question. It's a pageant of widely-varying estimates arrived at by several quite indirect methods. cn