I'm voting for McCain....

Spitzered

Well-Known Member
I've travel pretty extensively thru out the middle east and SE Asia and parts of Europe.
Its pretty close with people in the middle east, (mostly fears of Iran), but mostly young people I have met and talked to were pro Obama. And the young are more vocal and outspoken. And I haven't been back since Palin VP was announced, I'm pretty sure that doesn't go over well in the Middle East, so..... So I would have to say Obama by a wide margin. Not that they know anything about him, their sources are CNN and BBC. But I'm not really the source you were looking for.
 

trafik

Active Member
Him kicking the bucket and making Palin pres is best case scenario so its alright with me that's hes old :razz:

WOW Palin as president , this is were everyone hopes McCain DOESN'T die if elected president!!

Palin is like a joke that's more sad then funny
People who are so Religiously Intoxicated should have no chance of running a country not to mention AMERICA

thats my opinion , I just think Republicans can do better then a bush a like grandpa and a nobody from the old Russian Empire
we are picking a president not alderman better people as far as republicans are available
 

ZenMaster

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Yeah Palin as President. Her and God. Don't forget she believes that God guides Bush and I'm pretty sure she'd think the invisible man in the sky was guiding her also. Sure let's elect a right wing religious zealot, sounds about right..................Wrong!! Say, where was God when Bush decided to attack Iraq? Where was God when Bush and his cronies decided to let the corporations/Banking industry run wild? Where was God when Bush and his cronies decided to take our rights away? He must have been asleep. Anyone that thinks they are doing Gods will while running our country is a certified whack job. I believe this includes most republicans and for certain Sarah Palin.

Where's God?

Not sure, you liberals want In God We Trust out of the currency, you want "under God" out of the pledge, you want no God whatsoever in any education, you don't Christmas displayed on advertisements-only happy holidays, you constantly ridicule and demean God then have the audacity to ask him where he is?

Uh huh..

Is that all you got? I am talking about Sarah Palin and you instantly bring up Bush, be more original please. Thats all you libs got on this whole election, all I hear is "4 more year", "Bush is evil" blah blah blah, you cannot attack her on legitimate issues so you just bring up the ol Bush card. Its laughable.

In reality, Palin being president would be the best thing that could happen.
 

medicineman

New Member
Where's God?

Not sure, you liberals want In God We Trust out of the currency, you want "under God" out of the pledge, you want no God whatsoever in any education, you don't Christmas displayed on advertisements-only happy holidays, you constantly ridicule and demean God then have the audacity to ask him where he is?

Uh huh..

Is that all you got? I am talking about Sarah Palin and you instantly bring up Bush, be more original please. Thats all you libs got on this whole election, all I hear is "4 more year", "Bush is evil" blah blah blah, you cannot attack her on legitimate issues so you just bring up the ol Bush card. Its laughable.

In reality, Palin being president would be the best thing that could happen.
I thought so, you don't know how to read!
 

medicineman

New Member
As I thought, you disappoint once again. I thought this time would be different, you might, just might have something remotely interesting to say.

I have faith that one day you might deliver.
Talking to you is like talking to the wall. Go listen to Limbaugh and Levin, get turned on to avarice and greed, shout your hate over the voices of the many.Fu Fu Fu, damn that stutter.
 

trafik

Active Member
but let us pray that we are on God's side

on the war?

God picks sides sarah ?

NO NO NO NO


Palin

"I would never presume to know God's will or to speak God's words. But what Abraham Lincoln had said, and that's a repeat in my comments, was let us not pray that God is on our side in a war or any other time, but let us pray that we are on God's side."


FLIP FLOP FLIPPITY FLOP trying to save face Sarah still fucks up
 

ZenMaster

Well-Known Member
Talking to you is like talking to the wall.
Maybe in the sense that I see through all the bullshit you fling. It stops here, buddy.

*EDIT*
Ah I see you had to add a lil bit more on there Medo.

You have to be more original than this, I could just turn around and tell you to keep sucking the nipple on Keith Olbermann or Alan Colmes who continually fabricate more things to blame on Bush or republicans.
 

NewGrowth

Well-Known Member
but let us pray that we are on God's side

on the war?

God picks sides sarah ?

NO NO NO NO


Palin

"I would never presume to know God's will or to speak God's words. But what Abraham Lincoln had said, and that's a repeat in my comments, was let us not pray that God is on our side in a war or any other time, but let us pray that we are on God's side."


FLIP FLOP FLIPPITY FLOP trying to save face Sarah still fucks up
Here yah go here is a true American who knows "God" loves everybody just the same YouTube - Jack Johnson - Times Like These
 

trafik

Active Member
I just want her debates to start , I hope that she gets a lot of media coverage

I PRAY TO GOD SHE STARTS TAKING QUESTIONS FROM PEOPLE

Let it all come out........

and she better not have a ear piece

you need the stupid to ooze out of somewhere




***** no more rant in me, I'm done FUN THREAD +++
 

Diabolic

Active Member
Talk about ignorant! Do you know how fucking offensive that type of comment is to older people?
Only a freakin' Demobat could, on the one hand, rail against "racism," and then be stone-blind to his/her own ageism attitude. A pox on you. :finger: bongsmilie

Vi
Seriously WIPE YOUR PUSSY! dont put words in my mouth little girl. I already said I was Independent. Out of all the Canidates I wanted Ron Paul to win.Mccain is a surviving cancer patient, his health is terrible this is fact and statistics show that if he is elected he would be the oldest president ever. There is no doubt in my mind if he is elected he has a high possibility of dieing in office. Get your facts straight before owning yourself please republicans are too easy to make fun of. :clap::clap::clap:


Where's God?

Uh huh..

Is that all you got? I am talking about Sarah Palin and you instantly bring up Bush, be more original please. Thats all you libs got on this whole election, all I hear is "4 more year", "Bush is evil" blah blah blah, you cannot attack her on legitimate issues so you just bring up the ol Bush card. Its laughable.

In reality, Palin being president would be the best thing that could happen.
Your whole post is laughable Palin being president would be the worst thing that could happen. Your a complete e-tard the governor of like 7 thousand people is more ready than obama is for president? HAHAAHAHAHA you must not know who she is then she said so HERSELF she doesnt even know what do as VP? Again I must post a video that should have shut you the fuck up. YouTube - WHO'S SARAH PALIN?
 

trafik

Active Member
Maybe in the sense that I see through all the bullshit you fling. It stops here, buddy.

*EDIT*
Ah I see you had to add a lil bit more on there Medo.

You have to be more original than this, I could just turn around and tell you to keep sucking the nipple on Keith Olbermann or Alan Colmes who continually fabricate more things to blame on Bush or republicans.

I could just turn around and tell you to keep sucking the nipple on Keith Olbermann????? ( any questions )


Really stupid shit to say to a 68 yo dude on a weed forum not cool

He was getting laid when you where in your dads balls




Who's nipple do you prefer to you suck ??? O'Reilly???


like my EDITs mr. PERFECT POST
 

medicineman

New Member
Maybe in the sense that I see through all the bullshit you fling. It stops here, buddy.

*EDIT*
Ah I see you had to add a lil bit more on there Medo.

You have to be more original than this, I could just turn around and tell you to keep sucking the nipple on Keith Olbermann or Alan Colmes who continually fabricate more things to blame on Bush or republicans.
The Bush republicans have done their share of fucking over themselves, without ant help from anyone, thank you very much.
 

Inneedofbuds

Well-Known Member
I don't like Palin because she had a man fired for personal family issues.
I don't like Palin because she teaches abstinence education while having a pregnant teenage daughter.
I don't like Palin because she supports the war on drugs while having a son who is a drug addict.
I don't like Palin because she fought a bill that would ban hunting wolves by airplanes.
I don't like Palin because the biggest protest in Alaska history was protesting her run for vice-presidency by the Alaskan Women Against Palin group.
I don't like Palin because she hasn't done a single interview with a non-biased news source.
I don't like Palin because she claims to have had not used any earmarks or Pork Barrell spending when this has been proven to be false.
I don't like Palin because she was Mayor of a town smaller than Obama's student body.
I don't like Palin because she is already on record flip-flopping on the Bridge to Nowhere and then lied about it. Then when the proof was thrown in her face, via her own quote, she said she forgot.
 

TheBrutalTruth

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McCain Policies Will Support Reasonable Economic Growth: Small business is the key to job growth. Small business will benefit from:

  • Low individual tax rates - sole-proprietorships, partnerships, landlords and others are taxed under the individual income tax.
  • Access to capital from low tax rates on dividends and capital gains.
  • Minimizing expensive mandates - such as those for health insurance and pro-union initiatives like card check.
  • Enhancing international competitiveness to keep jobs here; not abroad.
    • A lower corporate tax rate.
    • Improved investment and research incentives to ensure that workers have the most modern technology.
    • Bringing the budget to balance, reducing federal borrowing, and controlling spending to reduce the burden on the economy.
90% of the businesses in America are privately owned, any moves that free up capital for them, and lower their costs are good for the United States.

Lower Capital Gains would encourage investment, and would also encourage corporations to pay more in dividends distributing more of their wealth to investors who can turn around and invest it in new companies, which will lead to their growth, and development.

The opposite plan would actually delay additional investment, because people would be less inclined to take risks in new companies because they will face lower returns on investment that do not make the risk logical to take.

Companies would also feel pressured to cut their dividends because investors would rather see the money that would be lost to higher taxes reinvested in the company. Which means by raising Capital Gains you would encourage stagnation of money instead of flow of money.


  • The McCain administration would reserve all savings from victory in the Iraq and Afghanistan operations in the fight against Islamic extremists for reducing the deficit. Since all their costs were financed with deficit spending, all their savings must go to deficit reduction.
We need to get out of the hole. There is no other choice. America can't continue to act like a family that has just gotten a credit card, and didn't read the small print where it states that you need to pay the money you borrow back.

  • A one-year spending pause. Freeze non-defense, non-veterans discretionary spending for a year and use those savings for deficit reduction. A one-year pause in the growth of discretionary spending will be imposed to allow for a comprehensive review of all spending programs. After the completion of a comprehensive review of all programs, projects and activities of the federal government, we will propose a plan to modernize, streamline, consolidate, reprioritize and, where needed, terminate individual programs.
A more efficient government would mean that the "Help Me" Programs would actually do more for who they are intended and less to line the pockets of government employees.

  • Take back earmark funds. The McCain Administration will reclaim billions of add-on spending from earmarks and add-ons in FY 2007 and 2008.
Depends on what's done with the savings, if its used to further decrease the deficit, good, if not, then its only benefit is that it stops politicians from being able to bribe their constituents with federal money.


  • Eliminate broken government programs. The federal government itself admits that one in five programs do not perform.
  • Reform our civil service system to promote accountability and good performance in our federal workforce.
  • Reform procurement programs and cut wasteful spending in defense and non-defense programs.
Efficient, Effective Government. It'll be easier to lower expenses, which means lower taxes as the government would not need as much of our money to function.

Reform Social Security: John McCain will fight to save the future of Social Security, and he believes that we may meet our obligations to the retirees of today and the future without raising taxes. John McCain supports supplementing the current Social Security system with personal accounts - but not as a substitute for addressing benefit promises that cannot be kept. John McCain will reach across the aisle to address these challenges, but if the Democrats do not act, he will. No problem is in more need of honesty than the looming financial challenges of entitlement programs. Americans have the right to know the truth and John McCain will not leave office without fixing the problems that threatens our future prosperity and power.

Maybe some privatization of Social Security which would be a good thing, because it would allow individuals to choose where their retirement funds are saved. Whether it be a savings account or stocks and bonds.

Keep Tax Rates Low: Entrepreneurs are at the heart of American innovation, growth and prosperity. Entrepreneurs create the ultimate job security - a new, better opportunity if your current job goes away. Entrepreneurs should not be taxed into submission. John McCain will keep the top tax rate at 35 percent, maintain the 15 percent rates on dividends and capital gains, and phase-out the Alternative Minimum Tax. Small businesses are the heart of job growth; raising taxes on them hurts every worker. John McCain's opponent wants to increase the marginal income tax rate which applies to the nation's 23 million small business owners who pay their taxes under the individual tax rate system.


Cut The Corporate Tax Rate From 35 To 25 Percent: A lower corporate tax rate is essential to keeping good jobs in the United States. America was once a low-tax business environment, but as our trade partners lowered their rates, America failed to keep pace. American workers deserve the chance to make fine products here and sell them around the globe.

90% of business are small family owned businesses. Lowering their costs means that they will be able to continue to stay in America, and compete against foreign corporations. Making them more competitive and more profitable makes it easier for them to expand and enter new industries increasing competition.

Allow First-Year Deduction, Or "Expensing", Of Equipment And Technology Investments: American workers need the finest technologies to compete. Expensing of equipment and technology will provide an immediate boost to capital expenditures and reward investments in cutting-edge technologies.

Cuts out a lot of chicanery in the lobbying system where lobbyists try to get different items depreciated at different rates so that companies can deduct those items faster and thus pay lower taxes. Allowing companies to deduct all at once means that they don't need to try lobbying for changes in depreciation rates, which means they are more likely to make the capital purchases they need when they need to.

Establish Permanent Tax Credit Equal To 10 Percent Of Wages Spent On R&D:
This reform will greatly simplify the tax code, reward activity in the United States, and make us more competitive with other countries. A permanent credit will provide an incentive to innovate and remove uncertainty. At a time when our companies need to be more competitive, we need to provide a permanent incentive to innovate, and remove the uncertainty now hanging over businesses as they make R&D investment decisions.

Encourages R&D which leads to development of new technologies and new products. Would encourage corporations to maintain R&D Budgets or even increase them.

Allow Families To Keep Their Businesses: John McCain proposes reducing the Estate Tax rate to 15 percent and permit a generous $10 million exemption.

Makes it easier for small sole proprietorships to survive the death of their founder, and would lower some of the chicanery people engage in to avoid the Estate Tax.


John McCain believes that globalization is an opportunity for American workers today and in the future. Ninety-five percent of the world's customers lie outside our borders and we need to be at the table when the rules for access to those markets are written. To do so, the U.S. should engage in multilateral, regional and bilateral efforts to reduce barriers to trade, level the global playing field and build effective enforcement of global trading rules.

Export growth is the strongest part of our sluggish economy, and we should be encouraging the growth of even more jobs in this sector through more free trade agreements which give American firms more access to sell our goods and services abroad.
Open and Free markets means a level playing field for our corporations which makes them more competitive.

Increasing our exports would also help lower our trade deficit (most of which is Oil and Consumer Goods) by allowing our export companies which primarily manufacture capital goods better access to foreign markets. It would also bring more wealth into the United States.

Though that is actually open to debate, depending on which economic theories you believe. For some one that believes in Adam's Smith Theories on the Markets it makes sense.
 
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