Is a reversal of Roe v Wade decision next?

Roger A. Shrubber

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Well, only Trump can fix it! :lol:
in a way, you're right, if the republicans pick a popular cartoon to represent them, probably desatanis, they have a real chance of winning, at least 50/50...unless trump runs and splits the republican base.
then i think they won't have a chance. they've pissed off a whole lot of people, ensured that a pretty good segment of usual non voters will turn out, alienated about 75% of the women in the entire country...if trump takes even 5% from desantis, that could easily turn into a win for democrats. Biden won by 4.5% of the popular vote...
 

CunningCanuk

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injinji

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you all are talking about the C.C.C. from back in the 30s, Roosevelt put all the young men coming back from ww1 to work building roads, bridges, the national park system...it put a lot of people to work, and got some major projects accomplished, i think it would be a great idea, and it should count as public service, like being in the military.
Daddy was a CCC boy as a teen. He was born in 23. He got just a little of his pay, while most of it when back home to his parents.
 

Lucky Luke

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Joe Rob didn't cause the inflation and he can't stop it. It is supply and demand. When gas hits five bucks, folks drive less. When enough folks drive less, the price comes down.
Of cause he and other world leaders/Governments can help to stop it by their Fiscal and foreign policies.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Joe Rob didn't cause the inflation and he can't stop it. It is supply and demand. When gas hits five bucks, folks drive less. When enough folks drive less, the price comes down.
True, but international policies help too, things like trying open up Venezuela and Iran, as well as domestic ones with reserves and drilling policy. The main problem appears to refining capacity and price gouging, the price of oil is not that high compared to the past. Nobody wants to build new refineries because of the pending shift to EVs and other green technologies will reduce demand over the next couple of decades. Within 5 years EVs should cut into gas sales in Europe and many other places, reducing demand.
 

cannabineer

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Joe Rob didn't cause the inflation and he can't stop it. It is supply and demand. When gas hits five bucks, folks drive less. When enough folks drive less, the price comes down.
Here I see no difference in amount of traffic. More interestingly, folks are not driving any more slowly. Gas is still $6 locally. Diesel is $7.
 

injinji

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Here I see no difference in amount of traffic. More interestingly, folks are not driving any more slowly. Gas is still $6 locally. Diesel is $7.
I can't say I'm driving less. I have tried to leave a little earlier so I can slow down. But all that is changing. Tonight is my last night at work. One day a week is not enough money to worry about, and the bullshit factor has really gone up the last few months. 27 miles round trip, so almost a gallon of gas.

I still go to the riverhouse about every other day. Two mile round trip.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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I can't say I'm driving less. I have tried to leave a little earlier so I can slow down. But all that is changing. Tonight is my last night at work. One day a week is not enough money to worry about, and the bullshit factor has really gone up the last few months. 27 miles round trip, so almost a gallon of gas.

I still go to the riverhouse about every other day. Two mile round trip.
i've started riding my scooter a lot more, for little trips to the store or simple errands that i don't need to carry anything for.
i can carry two fair sized bags of groceries on the scooter, i don't start the truck unless i need more than that.
120 mpg is way the fuck better than 18
 

HGCC

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I started calculating what my actual mpg is and was pleasantly surprised it was 18. If I had to go in to work regularly I would definitely be looking at getting some sort of hybrid, scooters aren't an option as there isn't a good way to avoid heavy traffic on the interstate.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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I started calculating what my actual mpg is and was pleasantly surprised it was 18. If I had to go in to work regularly I would definitely be looking at getting some sort of hybrid, scooters aren't an option as there isn't a good way to avoid heavy traffic on the interstate.
yeah, you gotta be at least 400 cc to get on the interstate here, and i would be hesitant about it then. the 400 goes 95, but i'm thinking about the wind from passing semis making you wobble all over the road...
 

printer

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House Democrats ask Senate to take position on whether justices lied during confirmation hearings
Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) and Ted Lieu are asking that Senate Democrats take a stand on whether conservative Supreme Court justices who voted to overturn the Roe v. Wade decision lied to the Senate Judiciary Committee during their confirmation hearings.

The letter argues that conservative Justices Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh “directly lied” to members of the Senate and that they and others on the bench “misled the American people during their confirmation hearings.”

“We request that the Senate make its position clear on whether Justices Kavanaugh and Gorsuch lied under oath during their confirmation hearings,” the letter from the two progressive House members said.

“We must call out their actions for what they were before the moment passes, so that we can prevent such a mendacious denigration of our fundamental rights and the rule of law from ever happening again,” it concludes.

Kavanaugh and Gorsuch were two of five conservative justices who voted to overturn the Roe v. Wade decision.

The July 8 letter was sent to Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.). Ocasio-Cortez has sometimes been floated as a possible challenger to Schumer.

Justices Amy Coney Barret and Clarence Thomas also joined Justice Samuel Alito’s position overturning Roe v. Wade. Chief Justice John Roberts joined the majority opinion on Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization upholding a Mississippi state law on abortion, but said he would not go as far as overturning Roe v. Wade.

Alito wrote that “Roe was egregiously wrong from the start” and that “together, Roe and Casey represent an error that cannot be allowed to stand.”

Ocasio-Cortez and Lieu argued in their letter that Kavanaugh and Gorsuch expressed no such sentiments during their confirmation hearings, quoting Kavanaugh’s 2018 assertion that Roe “is settled as a precedent” and Gorsuch’s 2017 claim that he would have “walked out the door” if former President Trump had asked him to overrule Roe.

“It is impossible to reconcile the sweeping majority opinion in Dobbs with the statements made by Justices Gorsuch and Kavanaugh during their confirmation hearings,” the House Democrats wrote in their letter to Schumer. This inconsistency “makes a mockery of the confirmation power.”

“We cannot allow Supreme Court nominees lying and/or misleading the Senate under oath to go unanswered,” Ocasio-Cortez wrote on Twitter Monday. “Both GOP & Dem Senators stated SCOTUS justices misled them. This cannot be accepted as precedent. Doing so erodes rule of law, delegitimizes the court, and imperils democracy.”

Ocasio-Cortez and Lieu also quoted Sens. Susan Collins (R-Maine) and Joe Manchin (D-W.V.) expressing they had been misled by Gorsuch and Kavanaugh.

“I am alarmed they chose to reject the stability the ruling has provided for two generations of Americans,” Manchin was quoted as stating.
Sharing the letter on Twitter, Lieu wrote that “our Constitutional Republic cannot tolerate Supreme Court Justices who lied in order to get confirmed. The legitimacy of the Court is at stake.”
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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House Democrats ask Senate to take position on whether justices lied during confirmation hearings
Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) and Ted Lieu are asking that Senate Democrats take a stand on whether conservative Supreme Court justices who voted to overturn the Roe v. Wade decision lied to the Senate Judiciary Committee during their confirmation hearings.

The letter argues that conservative Justices Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh “directly lied” to members of the Senate and that they and others on the bench “misled the American people during their confirmation hearings.”

“We request that the Senate make its position clear on whether Justices Kavanaugh and Gorsuch lied under oath during their confirmation hearings,” the letter from the two progressive House members said.

“We must call out their actions for what they were before the moment passes, so that we can prevent such a mendacious denigration of our fundamental rights and the rule of law from ever happening again,” it concludes.

Kavanaugh and Gorsuch were two of five conservative justices who voted to overturn the Roe v. Wade decision.

The July 8 letter was sent to Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.). Ocasio-Cortez has sometimes been floated as a possible challenger to Schumer.

Justices Amy Coney Barret and Clarence Thomas also joined Justice Samuel Alito’s position overturning Roe v. Wade. Chief Justice John Roberts joined the majority opinion on Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization upholding a Mississippi state law on abortion, but said he would not go as far as overturning Roe v. Wade.

Alito wrote that “Roe was egregiously wrong from the start” and that “together, Roe and Casey represent an error that cannot be allowed to stand.”

Ocasio-Cortez and Lieu argued in their letter that Kavanaugh and Gorsuch expressed no such sentiments during their confirmation hearings, quoting Kavanaugh’s 2018 assertion that Roe “is settled as a precedent” and Gorsuch’s 2017 claim that he would have “walked out the door” if former President Trump had asked him to overrule Roe.

“It is impossible to reconcile the sweeping majority opinion in Dobbs with the statements made by Justices Gorsuch and Kavanaugh during their confirmation hearings,” the House Democrats wrote in their letter to Schumer. This inconsistency “makes a mockery of the confirmation power.”

“We cannot allow Supreme Court nominees lying and/or misleading the Senate under oath to go unanswered,” Ocasio-Cortez wrote on Twitter Monday. “Both GOP & Dem Senators stated SCOTUS justices misled them. This cannot be accepted as precedent. Doing so erodes rule of law, delegitimizes the court, and imperils democracy.”

Ocasio-Cortez and Lieu also quoted Sens. Susan Collins (R-Maine) and Joe Manchin (D-W.V.) expressing they had been misled by Gorsuch and Kavanaugh.

“I am alarmed they chose to reject the stability the ruling has provided for two generations of Americans,” Manchin was quoted as stating.
Sharing the letter on Twitter, Lieu wrote that “our Constitutional Republic cannot tolerate Supreme Court Justices who lied in order to get confirmed. The legitimacy of the Court is at stake.”
about time, they should have had that letter drafted the day after the decision
 

injinji

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yeah, you gotta be at least 400 cc to get on the interstate here, and i would be hesitant about it then. the 400 goes 95, but i'm thinking about the wind from passing semis making you wobble all over the road...
25 years ago I traded two heifers and a bull yearling for a 600 Yamaha. It was so light a semi would push it a couple of feet sideways. I ended up selling it. It was too scary. I would like to get one of those fat tired trail bikes you see outside Tractor Supply. Max weight supposed to be 175 pounds. I'm down to 205, with plans of dropping a little more. I figure I could get away with it.
 

printer

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DOJ creates new reproductive rights task force
The Department of Justice (DOJ) on Tuesday announced the creation of a new reproductive rights task force aimed at protecting abortion access and enforcing federal laws on reproduction rights in the wake of the U.S. Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade.

In a press release, the DOJ said the new task force will bring together representatives from several offices in the department, including the civil rights division, the Office of the Solicitor General and U.S. attorney’s offices.

DOJ Associate Attorney General Vanita Gupta, who will chair the new task force, said the DOJ is “committed to protecting access to reproductive services” after the high court’s decision last month that cleared the way for states to restrict or ban abortion access.

“The Court abandoned 50 years of precedent and took away the constitutional right to abortion, preventing women all over the country from being able to make critical decisions about our bodies, our health, and our futures,” Gupta said in a statement.

The DOJ said the reproductive rights task force will monitor state and local laws that infringe on federal protections for reproductive care, impair a woman’s ability to seek abortion care in states where it is legal, ban federally approved abortion medication or prevent federal employees from accessing abortion care.

The task force is not entirely new but simply “formalizes an existing working group and efforts by the Department over the last several months” to enforce federal laws and protect abortion access, according to the DOJ.

The news comes after President Biden signed an executive order last week that instructs the Department of Health and Human Services to protect and expand access to abortion through medication shipped by mail.

U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland has already said he will enforce the protection of abortion medication, which is approved by the Food and Drug Administration.

The Biden administration has so far resisted calls to allow abortion access on federal lands and to declare a public health emergency after several states have taken steps to severely restricted access to abortion.

The president’s resistance has angered progressives who are urging Biden to do more after the Supreme Court ruling. For his part, Biden has pushed for Congress to codify the right to abortion.
 
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