Is Obama competent?

ViRedd

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My post was 4 paragraphs? Now, we all know who didn't pass lower division writing here. :clap: (Is this a paragraph?)


Yes, you bring up a good point. I'm sure Democrats do watch FOX, however, that does not mean they subscribe to the FOX propaganda. The same could be said for MSNBC, plenty of Republicans watch MSNBC but they do not subscribe to their propaganda. By assuming that the viewer only watches what they believe in, the overall analysis becomes extremely skewed. Therefore, your argument holds little weight.

Side Note: By the way, who only watches what they believe? It seems like that would be counter productive. Wouldn't you want to hear both sides of an argument?

Now, it certainly is interesting that you would approach the argument from this stance. "More people watch FOX (even Dems), so FOX is accurate and their view is correct." Of course, I'm paraphrasing you. It is also interesting that you didn't think my previous post had any relevant information, because you just exhibited the exact behavior I was describing.

So, again, I will post: "now you just have to learn how to accurately analyze factually material, opposed to skewing parts of it for your argument....it has been very entertaining analyzing your train of thought."



Also, if you bought that ACORN story, you really need to read up. That was debunked within the first week. Next you're going to be preaching that Bush dropped the WTC towers. :: hint :: You're tipping on the c.r.a.z.y. side there CJ. :: tip :: Stick with the good argument, government spending. At least Bush set that up for the Right to harp on.:idea: LOL
OK, so now you've almost said something with substance ... but it took you another two paragraphs, :lol:

By the way, for the "other side" opinions, I watch Bill Maher every week. He's a great Icon for liberal laughing stock.
 

CrackerJax

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None of the Nielsen ratings measure whether ppl subscribe to what they watch... they simply measure WHAT ppl are watching. It's not a political poll, it's a tool for charging advertising rates. Which means $$$ is on the line, not votes.

Most Americans watch FOX , whether they subscribe to either side or both sides of an issue FOX addresses.

Acorn story has not been debunked. That's a laugh....
 

Cloud City

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Most Americans watch FOX , whether they subscribe to either side or both sides of an issue FOX addresses.



That is false. Only a very small percentage of Americans with the ability to watch FOX actually do so. Even among cable news network viewers less than 40% watch FOX news while the others watch CNN, MSNBC, HLN, CNBC, etc..
 

Johnnyorganic

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Parties every week, golfing like crazy. Almost like we aren't in a crisis at all. Two wars going on (sort of :roll:), and he's golfing....
The golfing does not bother me. So he likes golf. Big deal!

But hosting a White House Rose Garden birthday party for a dog?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/6425473/It-is-not-a-dogs-life-for-Americas-first-canine.html

Doesn't that behavior reflect the ostentatious, conspicuous consumption reserved for uber-rich, globe-trotting elitists?

Does the dog have a psychiatrist, too?
 

CrackerJax

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Gosh, i guess you didn't read the posts.... FOX beats out all other major news media outlets in every time slot. Fox has more viewers than CNN and MSNBC COMBINED....



JO, the only reason I bring that up was Bush was constantly being accused of taking time off. Obama has now matched Bush's golf games in 9 months, compared to two years and 6 months of Bush..... just imagine if that were reversed.... the media would HOWL!! No credibility there.....
 

Cloud City

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Gosh, i guess you didn't read the posts.... FOX beats out all other major news media outlets in every time slot. Fox has more viewers than CNN and MSNBC COMBINED....



JO, the only reason I bring that up was Bush was constantly being accused of taking time off. Obama has now matched Bush's golf games in 9 months, compared to two years and 6 months of Bush..... just imagine if that were reversed.... the media would HOWL!! No credibility there.....




You're mistaken as FOX has far less viewers than nbc, cbs, and abc news. Only among cable news networks does FOX have more viewers than the other networks when compared individually. However if you combine all of the viewers of other cable news networks they vastly outnumber the people watching FOX at any given time. So there are far more Americans who get their news from the other cable news networks than do from FOX. This is because FOX is the only tv news station that is dedicated to the propaganda of whats left of the Republican party. All of the other news networks report on a variety of news and therefore over 60% of Americans who watch cable news watch either CNN, MSNBC, or HLN.



As for Bush, he set the record for worst president ever. He is a disgrace to all Americans and will be remembered in history as a miserable failure. Fuck Bush. And thats coming from a far right Conservative.
 

undertheice

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And that's coming from a far right Conservative.
perhaps you don't understand the meaning of the word or maybe you just feel that people might take your gibberish more seriously if you claim a conservative past, but every word you've written here proves your credentials as an official, card carrying member of the brain dead followers of the liberal establishment. you may once have had an independent mind and have even had thoughts of a somewhat rational nature, but you've so obviously been indoctrinated with the socialist dogma that passes for main stream media that you might just as well be stalin's second cousin. just as your masters lie, claiming an altruistic goal for their totalitarian schemes, so too are your claims to conservatism a blatant fabrication.
 

undertheice

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You're mistaken as FOX has far less viewers than nbc, cbs, and abc news.
are you really sure you want to compare an entire channel devoted to news with the blithering antics of mindless automatons that passes for network news? regardless of the slant of their content, comparing fnc with the pretty boys and girls that waste america's time on the big three each evening seems beneath even a liberal dupe.
 

CrackerJax

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The nielsens take into account the distribution of the shows... the rating reflect all viewers.... it's all in the way they set up the random pool.

Like I said...it's about advertising, not politics. the numbers are accurate.

if Fox's viewer ship were truly anemic, Obama wouldn't be out there acting like a sophomore.
 

Cloud City

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perhaps you don't understand the meaning of the word or maybe you just feel that people might take your gibberish more seriously if you claim a conservative past, but every word you've written here proves your credentials as an official, card carrying member of the brain dead followers of the liberal establishment. you may once have had an independent mind and have even had thoughts of a somewhat rational nature, but you've so obviously been indoctrinated with the socialist dogma that passes for main stream media that you might just as well be stalin's second cousin. just as your masters lie, claiming an altruistic goal for their totalitarian schemes, so too are your claims to conservatism a blatant fabrication.




You sir, are a cad and a bounder, a cretin of the highest degree. You speak of that which you do not know in a rude and arrogant tone which only serves to make you appear to have the intellect of a small child. And not that its any of your business but I voted for McCain in the last election and have voted Republican for over 30 years. I also watch FOX news daily, so please kindly keep your false assumptions and poor attitude to yourself.
 

Cloud City

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are you really sure you want to compare an entire channel devoted to news with the blithering antics of mindless automatons that passes for network news? regardless of the slant of their content, comparing fnc with the pretty boys and girls that waste america's time on the big three each evening seems beneath even a liberal dupe.




If we are going to compare the TV news channels why Ignore the 3 largest ones? I watch them all and FOX news is the worst as far as slanted content and one sided reporting goes.
 

undertheice

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You sir, are a cad and a bounder, a cretin of the highest degree.
considering the source, i'll take this as the highest of praise.
I voted for McCain in the last election and have voted Republican for over 30 years.
you consider a vote for mccain to be a sign of conservatism? you consider the republican party the voice of america's conservative element? you're in even worse shape than i thought.
 

CrackerJax

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Remember, when they say “last,” they mean out of four networks — CNN, Fox, MSNBC, and Headline News. Quote: “The only CNN show from 7 p.m. to 10 p.m. that did not finish last was Larry King, which was third, ahead of the new Joy Behar show on HLN.” Exit question one: How long before CNN’s getting beat by Joy Behar? Exit question two: Glenn Beck is number two in cable news — at 5 p.m. How long before Ailes moves him to primetime?
 

Cloud City

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considering the source, i'll take this as the highest of praise.
you consider a vote for mccain to be a sign of conservatism? you consider the republican party the voice of america's conservative element? you're in even worse shape than i thought.



I am one of those rare Conservatives who still thinks for myself. You see, my brain has not been rotted by FOX news and AM talk radio. So who did you vote for in the last election? Or are you one of the self righteous Ron Paul sheeple? He sure did fool a lot of gullible folks into giving him their hard earned money! lol. :dunce:
 

Cloud City

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Glenn Beck is number two in cable news — at 5 p.m. How long before Ailes moves him to primetime?



Beck will get fired before that happens. He has already lost almost all his major sponsors and is having trouble finding any companies dumb enough to sponsor his hate speech.
 
Clearly, you sir, are a sufferer of ODS - Obama Derangement Syndrome.


Now I am a far right conservative who voted for McCain and I'm still willing to admit hes doing a good job. Obama is turning the economy around and ending Bush's wars and he has restored our reputation in the world. Most importantly though President Obama has successfully kept us safe from another terrorist attack. Yep, so far President Obama is doing alright. In fact, I'd say he is 110% qualified and competent!

What a laugh! Far right?? Totally wrong maybe- but far right??!!
Sell your words elsewhere. I ain't buying them.
 

puffntuff

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Both the left and the right have been selling our country out. Niether side really cares about the future as their old asses will be dead and their families set off our taxpaying money for sometime. The only way to fix this country of ours is to dig up Thomas Jefferson scoop out some DNA from his bones and clone him in a petry dish until then no matter what side left or right runs the country we are screwed. As for Obama the same people that are bitching now are the same people that voted for him. He has done nothing to help our country but prolly has weakened it. He had alot of help from bush on this. But it's not all bushes fault either.
 
Or, uncovers it.

Both the left and the right have been selling our country out. Niether side really cares about the future as their old asses will be dead and their families set off our taxpaying money for sometime. The only way to fix this country of ours is to dig up Thomas Jefferson scoop out some DNA from his bones and clone him in a petry dish until then no matter what side left or right runs the country we are screwed. As for Obama the same people that are bitching now are the same people that voted for him. He has done nothing to help our country but prolly has weakened it. He had alot of help from bush on this. But it's not all bushes fault either.
True. Both are to blame but I thought Oblabla was a 'leader' and yet he does the same things as Bush.
Both are working for their masters and that ain't us!
 

Cloud City

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As for Obama the same people that are bitching now are the same people that voted for him. He has done nothing to help our country but prolly has weakened it. He had alot of help from bush on this. But it's not all bushes fault either.


I didn't vote for him but come on, you've gotta admit that hes doing a good job and the people who are crying about President Obama did not vote for him and neither did any of the teabagging protesters.
 
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