Israel calls Polish ban on ritual slaughter (shechita) ‘totally unacceptable’.

SlaveNoMore said:

What do you mean by this? Are you saying you condone snitch behavior?

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He's actually referring to himself.

GOD HERE said:

I'm not sure what kind of brain damage you've sustained that causes you to go off on these incoherent rants, but I fully support the "Jews" as a race of people who are entitled to the same rights as the rest of humanity. What I don't support is Zionism, believing that Israel has the right to do whatever it wants to whoever it wants, and that Jews are superior to others because they are under the delusion that they've been chosen by God. This is what religious fanatics believe, but fortunately a good portion of Israel is made up of people who don't support Zionism, even including a good portion of the Orthodox community, who still value human life equally.

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I did not ever think you were a judge of anything.

GOD HERE said:

He's actually referring to himself.

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And what are you referring to Lost Boy?

Doer said:

I did not ever think you were a judge of anything.

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Well bud, I have a feeling you're probably not thinking much of anything. Until this morning I didn't even know you were just a limp towel.

kpmarine said:

Slitting a throat is probably the most humane way to kill something. Other ways are just cleaner. A clean cut across your throat will have you unconscious almost immediately from the pressure drop. Please tell me which mys are more humane, and why they are.

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What in the world are you talking about? Animals or humans? If you are talking humans then I can see your point because we are upright. If you are talking about animals then you are way off base.

Clean cut across the "throat"? Define "throat" then go back and think about your statement. Why would you want to cut an animals throat? Answer: To severe a major blood vessel. Why do you need to cut off an animals airway to achieve this. Again, unless you severe the spinal cord the animal is alive and alert during the process.

Pressure drop? Sorry kp both animals and human bodies compensate for this. Blood vessel will constrict. Even with arteries there will be severe bleeding but not compared to when the injury first happened. So right after the incision is made there will be a large gush of blood but it will slow down and the animal has 2-3 minutes of life left in it. Because cows are domesticated they tend to "give up" a little quicker but game animals will fight for their life.

These guys that do these kosher ritualistic killings are pro. One or maybe two passes and they are done. You're average person off the street can't do this. Cutting through the neck of a large animal is no easy task without a razor sharp long knife. Being able to walk up to an animal with enough confidence to do the job is another issue. The neck is a full of connective tissue and muscle. It ain't easy homey.

No dude, cutting an animal's throat is not the most humane.

A blow to the head or a well placed bullet are far more humane. The two vital organs to focus on are the heart and the brain. Hang the animal, remove the head to bleed, dress and butcher.

I think it would be good for you to watch an animal be slaughtered and butchered. This way you have an idea what goes on. Pretty internet tutorials just don't cut it, gotta get your hands dirty.

Who cares what you think? I certainly don't. You are just an established fly to swat to me.

GOD HERE said:

Well bud, I have a feeling you're probably not thinking much of anything. Until this morning I didn't even know you were just a limp towel.

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Doer said:

Who cares what you think? I certainly don't. You are just an established fly to swat to me.

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Oh ouch, I'm crushed. Keep sounding out your words and playing with bugs Limp Towel.

Doer said:

Another anti-constutional message. If you see something, say something, for GOD's SAKE!!

Self Policing is whatever you want to call it. It is the essence of our system. And I will bust your head if I get a chance. Wha you talkin about?

We have just been through a trial of Evil Hearts here in the Bay Area. A gang rape. Went on for hours. 16 years old girl. Out in public no less. Yeah, on a bench for hours outside in a school yard. Dozens of people standing a watch forming a cordon that would not allow her escape or view from the street.

So, what are you? A creep? A pervert? Do I snitch? Fuck yes, I do. I am in charge of this show. I'm a US citizen.

The worse anti-constitutional force is this don't snitch. Mob talk.

It is gang and gang is Warlord. Guys like me will open fire and then snitch. I have broken up shit with my bare hands and waited for the law.

I have testified against drunk drivers that didn't even hit me.

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I can understand about half of what this post said. The only reply I have is, ok?

Did you have a stroke or something? I mean that literally. I don't want to shit on you if you are disabled.

Doer said:

Well they never did accept jews in Poland thanks to the Church. And they still don't.

It has nothing to do with safety, or animal pain. It is hate.

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You know exactly NOTHING about Poland and history of Jews in it.

Doer said:

Of course, I have. And what difference does it make? That is the point. Jew hate. A defacto embargo.

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Then why did you belittle another poster regarding his slaughtering skills if it doesn't make a difference? I feel like I'm in the twilight zone. Keep up man.

silasraven said:

dudes thats part of our rights for us to sacrifise to God what he gave us. many christians refuse to put older rituals in their churches in favor of bigger hypocrisy. But something of this nature is what we have been doing for thousands of years.its our heritage to so and they must let us. i'm polish, but fail to see why there is a ban. health concerns maybe ,but all of us are human and clean when this is done.

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Sacrafice is one thing but meat production is another. I have no problem with religious people doing their sky daddy worship and sacraficing an animal in order to prevent the sky daddy from whipping out his god cock and fucking them with it. Sacrafices aren't done in slaughter houses in the name of kosher meat for tacos and hamburgers.

echelon1k1 said:

Anything outside the '67 borders is illegal, especially all the "occupation camps". They can live, but not at the expense of the Palestinians. Many of the population consider it "jewish land" because of some stupid book, a religious belief, nothing else...

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what 67 borders?

You say Illegal, But I rather question legality, because legality is often decided by buffoons and I would rather not do something that I don't like simply because the "law" of some stupid book said so.

I think you could even consider your statement to be slightly hypocritical in that regard. You say that the jews are wrong to steal land because a book told them so, but you say that they must leave because of another book (the law book)

Highlowazupkush said:

what 67 borders?

You say Illegal, But I rather question legality, because legality is often decided by buffoons and I would rather not do something that I don't like simply because the "law" of some stupid book said so.

I think you could even consider your statement to be slightly hypocritical in that regard. You say that the jews are wrong to steal land because a book told them so, but you say that they must leave because of another book (the law book)

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Speak on the issue between Poland and israel as much as you want you live in Poland but, before you go questioning borders and rambling out your ass you should read up on history. I'm not talking about high school text books either. Your trying to make it about law its not all about law but human decency in general .

I see israel rights groups / lobbists in countries around the world screaming and demanding rights for illegal aliens and other groups.

Yet the Palestinians in israel have no rights.. Why is Multiculturalism/Diversity ok for the rest of world but not for the chosen superior people in israel?

SlaveNoMore said:

Then why did you belittle another poster regarding his slaughtering skills if it doesn't make a difference? I feel like I'm in the twilight zone. Keep up man.

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Belittling? Do you somehow feel belittled for him? Or if he speaks for himself will he say that?

Why is the name of the 7 (uh...or is it 8?) Ganja Gods, do you think anything makes a difference in that way?

Is it.....SATAN?

Doer said:

Belittling? Do you somehow feel belittled for him? Or if he speaks for himself will he say that?

Why is the name of the 7 (uh...or is it 8?) Ganja Gods, do you think anything makes a difference in that way?

Is it.....SATAN?

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You go ahead and have your acid flashbacks and I'll sit here and make sure you don't fall and bump your head.

so humane:

[video=youtube;b3xcRNYfNM8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3xcRNYfNM8[/video]

SlaveNoMore said:

You go ahead and have your acid flashbacks and I'll sit here and make sure you don't fall and bump your head.

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You can't make sure of your own ass zits, I imagine.

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And you know nothing of LSD, you phony.

Flashbacks? pfff... You are a joke.

why does a slaughter ritual have to be done is such a fucked up way? what is the argument for slaughtering animals as painfully as possible, is it acceptable to slowly kill something if it is tradition?

Aztecs had a ritual called the heart extraction, would this tradition be accepted today as well?

echelon1k1 said:

Anything outside the '67 borders is illegal, especially all the "occupation camps". They can live, but not at the expense of the Palestinians. Many of the population consider it "jewish land" because of some stupid book, a religious belief, nothing else...

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but it's OK for you to live at the expense of the aboriginals?

you hypocrite.

UncleBuck said:

but it's OK for you to live at the expense of the aboriginals?

you hypocrite.

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Why do you like picking old wounds but ignore the bloodshed taking place now?