Thank you for responding, I will put up the pics tonight ,lights dont come on till 10pm east coast time. This is my first time going 12/12 from clone so I'm unsure what to expect. I did alot of research and it seemed everyone was doing this even AL. all be it Als clones are much bigger and beefier then mine,most of the stuff I saw and read about used small clones like mine with no veg at all ,and most ended up at least 2ft,even guys who go 12/12 from seed. Al says his are 9-10 inches if I read right and end up 2.5-3 ft when finished. Well anyway I will post pics 2nite,I hope for the best but I will plan for the worst as that is usually my luck..lol.