I've Smoked Weed for over 4 Decades; this is my First Attempt at Growing Anything.

scrapdizle

scrapdizle

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shotrocker said:
I flushed the sativas, 3 Chocolope and 3 Tangerine Dreams, 5 days ago with 25% nute solution. I figure I can feed these some more at that rate along with some molasses as they shouldn't be ready for another 3 to 5 weeks. Day 48 of flowering:
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being that they are sativas , not gonna lie bro your plants look unhappy. have you been testing the ph of the runoff? also, whats the current distance for ur hps from the canopy, 600w right?
your plants are showing multiple signs of illness.
your cal & mag looks to be good
on the other hand considering the claw leaves and the overall droopiness of the plants there is def an issue to be dealt with. have you checked thoroughly for bugs? spider mites, fungus ghats ect?
If your bug free, check your ph of the plain water then water + nutes then plant runoff (water + nutes+ soil salts ect).
 
shotrocker

shotrocker

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scrapdizle said:
being that they are sativas , not gonna lie bro your plants look unhappy. have you been testing the ph of the runoff? also, whats the current distance for ur hps from the canopy, 600w right?
your plants are showing multiple signs of illness.
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Thanks for the feedback, scrap. I never tested the soil at runoff. What pH should I be on the lookout for in the runoff? One stupid mistake I was making was taking my well water from 7-7.2 to 6.4 BEFORE I added nutes, intsead of after, so I probably dragged down the pH too low. THe 600W air cooled lights are about an average of 2 feet from the tops; closest is about 18". I've held my hand under the light for 30 seconds or more without discomfort. After I eat I'm going to make some individual photos of the sativas before they go to bed so we can further this with more specifics. I appreciate your help.
 
shotrocker

shotrocker

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I thought the sativas were doing better than the indicas but when I noticed some bad signs, I went ahead and flushed them in a 25% nute solution, 5 days ago.
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shotrocker

shotrocker

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scrapdizle said:
did u measure the ph of the water u flushed them with?
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Actually, I have been getting advice on this flush from someone I believe to be well experienced which you can find a few pages back. He suggested 6.5, someone else said 6.8 was best for soil. After adding the 25% nutes, the pH on the flush was 6.8 I left it there, as one of the things I worried about was that I had been, in fact, making the pH too low by bringing the pH down to 6.4 then adding nutes and not measuring again, so I've been going below 6.4. Your pH suggestions are the lowest I've heard for soil. In any case, I think, (hope!), the flush has stopped the deterioration. They certainly don't look any worse than a week ago.
 
shotrocker

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With these, I just figured the strain or phenotype had these gnarly leaves. Or are the plants expressing a need for something different than the other plants. They are making the most bud and sweet smell.
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scrapdizle

scrapdizle

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ive been experimenting with organic growing and i have a 3000 worm farm made from syrofom coolers which i can generate enough castings and juice to feed my garden plus left overs. every since ive been composting and using earth worm castings + perlite and peat moss i have not had to give any nutes and show no signs of deficiencies. no measuring ph or worring about feeding schedules, truley the way to go. frostiest shit ive seen, dipped in tric dust
 
shotrocker

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A couple of months ago, I almost killed off the runt, because it was all weird and looked like a wast of space. A couple of people here urged me to stay with it and I'm glad I did. Lots of buds popping.
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Here's how she looked back a couple of months ago
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shotrocker

shotrocker

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scrapdizle said:
ive been experimenting with organic growing and i have a 3000 worm farm made from syrofom coolers which i can generate enough castings and juice to feed my garden plus left overs. every since ive been composting and using earth worm castings + perlite and peat moss i have not had to give any nutes and show no signs of deficiencies. no measuring ph or worring about feeding schedules, truley the way to go. frostiest shit ive seen, dipped in tric dust
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I've seen people post about this approach, and it certainly seems alluring, but that's down the road for me. I've been living in Maine the last couple of years but spent most of my time in New York City and was the farthest thing from a grower. Thanks to all the help I've gotten here, I remain hopeful about getting out of this grow with a healthy bounty; enough to feel OK about my first try. And as you can see, I'm already into my second grow where I intend to avoid the mistakes of the first and also try FIMming and getting clones. When you're my age, (62), you have to learn things fast.
 
shotrocker

shotrocker

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scrapdizle said:
should grab some ak47 from serious seeds next round.
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A few weeks ago I harvested a 1/2 z of Automatic AK from a free seed and have been quite pleased with the smoke. When I went to look for AK 47 seeds, the fems were out of stock, but they had regulars. I'd like a couple of more grows under my belt before I try regular, no fem seeds. To lessen the chance that I mistakenly pollinate everything in town!
 
scrapdizle

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most of the time the best phenos are from reg seeds, id take the risk, its a great beginner strain it will treat u right. order a few if u get a male save the pollen and create ur own strains. find the best pheno in the batch and keep it as a mother and make clones. ak is def a strain to keep around esp if you get a good pheno.
 
shotrocker

shotrocker

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scrapdizle said:
most of the time the best phenos are from reg seeds, id take the risk, its a great beginner strain it will treat u right. order a few if u get a male save the pollen and create ur own strains. find the best pheno in the batch and keep it as a mother and make clones. ak is def a strain to keep around esp if you get a good pheno.
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I've heard that about reg seeds also, scrap. I'll have to consider that as my confidence grows.
 
shotrocker

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I flushed the 3 indicas 2 weeks ago with plain water, (pH was probably around 7). Mostly brown spotted yellow leaves continue to die. With the LSD, I'm even pulling off some dried up sugar leaves. The plants are ready for a watering today, so I will give them plain water adjusted to pH 6.5, and then check the pH of the runoff and report back here with that info. They are on day 50 so I just hope I can eke another week or so before the buds start showing damage. The trichomes are turning milky, so I'm sure I'll get something from these buds.
 
shotrocker

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6 out of 6 germinating seeds popped this morning and the 4 in veg look great! This is how I deal with not getting too freaked out about the 1st grow fuck-ups. Get 'em better next time. I'm going to keep doing this over and over again as quickly as my grow space allows until I learn how to get it right. Thanks again to all my helpers here for the invaluable coaching. You guys are creating fine karma for yourselves with your generous help. This is a club I am proud to join!
 
shrigpiece

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Those pics show happy plants, Thing is with flowering cannabis is that it pull all its energy into producing the flowers. When you flushed you have buffered the soil. When i said go with 6.5 you have lowered the ph of the soil. Lets say the soil was 7.2 and you flushed with 6.8 water that all bring the soil to around about 7.0. If ya used 6.5 you are looking at a soil ph of 6.8;-). The ph of the soil has got to be considered when ph'ing the water. Go for a lower water ph to balance out a slighty high soil ph. It el meet you in the middle. In any case after a flush it will take the plant a week or so to adjust. Let her do her thing man:clap:
PEACE
 
FatMarty

FatMarty

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shrigpiece said:
Those pics show happy plants, Thing is with flowering cannabis is that it pull all its energy into producing the flowers. When you flushed you have buffered the soil. When i said go with 6.5 you have lowered the ph of the soil. Lets say the soil was 7.2 and you flushed with 6.8 water that all bring the soil to around about 7.0. If ya used 6.5 you are looking at a soil ph of 6.8;-). The ph of the soil has got to be considered when ph'ing the water. Go for a lower water ph to balance out a slighty high soil ph. It el meet you in the middle. In any case after a flush it will take the plant a week or so to adjust. Let her do her thing man:clap:
PEACE
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What he said.
 
shotrocker

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Thanks shrig and FatMarty! I can use some reassurance right now. I just spent awhile checking the LSD buds under magnification. 30-40 % milky, I'd say. I worried that the whole plant was starting to rot and wondering how long I can hold out before I have to cut it. I'll keep waiting. When I watered the indicas and fed the sativas, (35% + a tbsp.molasses) today, the pH was 6.4-6.5 going in and 6.6-6.7 in the runoff. That's cool, right? Learning!
 
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