Kingbrite Rocks

AquariusPanta said:

Well aren't you just all important, Greeny McGreen Genes, meeting with Cree officials to discuss possible counterfeits... OR maybe Cree is just too big of a company and some wise employee(s) of theirs figured a way to rob them of their precious COBs and has since then hooked up KB with some stolen but legitimate COBS, thus allowing your *fellow* RIU members to acquire cheaper deals.

So you could possibly be ending a person's career at Cree, as well as cutting off a so-far credible source of deals for all of us here.

I like your strategy, mane. although I don't understand the logic behind it. Please, feel free to share.

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IMO, if someone is stealing COBs in those quantities they deserve to be out of a job....

All he is doing is making sure everyone has all the facts from what I see. If anyone wants to use them, by all means use them. Just know that if they're not an authorized Cree dealer that there are no guarantees.

Nothing more, nothing less.

I'll stick with authorized dealers myself, but others can feel free to do whatever they want with their money.

medicinehuman said:

It doesn't take much to get sued these days. Tillamook cheese is to die for.

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Ive lived on it for the last 30 years at least.....Most underrated cheese outside of Wis. ever! Field fed cows, don't add biotics and hormones and they don't even advertise that stuff to up their "profile" , they just make some damn good chedda

FESTER665 said:

IMO, if someone is stealing COBs in those quantities they deserve to be out of a job....

All he is doing is making sure everyone has all the facts from what I see. If anyone wants to use them, by all means use them. Just know that if they're not an authorized Cree dealer that there are no guarantees.

Nothing more, nothing less.

I'll stick with authorized dealers myself, but others can feel free to do whatever they want with their money.

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Now it's on dudes call me troll and come with this fake shit. Where is the proof that Cree officials say who's authorized and who's not. You guy need to just stop being asses. Btw I was speaking with the owner of A51 and we are cool with each other. We touched paths before he started his business.

FESTER665 said:

IMO, if someone is stealing COBs in those quantities they deserve to be out of a job....

All he is doing is making sure everyone has all the facts from what I see. If anyone wants to use them, by all means use them. Just know that if they're not an authorized Cree dealer that there are no guarantees.

Nothing more, nothing less.

I'll stick with authorized dealers myself, but others can feel free to do whatever they want with their money.

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I can see your point, but I raise you that other sellers have existed for Cree's outside of the regular and many many people have done just fine with them Aka A. Liu

So by that logic, Many functional lights that are currently being used, wouldn't.....I don't think all the info is being provided to make any kind of claim of who is not an "official" seller....Not yet, anyway....

I'm gonna call Cree tomorrow and genes if you are not telling the whole truth you'll be cursed by the troll. Hahahahahahaha lol I'm serious I'm calling them and getting the right dept. to answer the question correctly.

not saying they're not real Cree's, but if it's true they're not an authorized dealer I'd rather buy from those vendors... I stick with the current vendors because I get such huge price breaks through the company...

Realstyles seems to be really close to KB, why not just ask if he's an authorized dealer or not? Hopefully Genes can add more to what he's heard from Cree as well...

Doesn't bother me either way since all my stuff comes from Digikey, Mouser, and Newark but it's good information to have in any case.

Abiqua said:

I can see your point, but I raise you that other sellers have existed for Cree's outside of the regular and many many people have done just fine with them Aka A. Liu

So by that logic, Many functional lights that are currently being used, wouldn't.....I don't think all the info is being provided to make any kind of claim of who is not an "official" seller....Not yet, anyway....

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I agree.

The question is do you have any recourse say if the color spectrum is off if you bought them from a distributor who's not authorized?

Hopefully it all gets cleared up, hell maybe KB will end up being an authorized dealer if he's not already because of the quantities he'll be ordering... Who knows.

Abiqua said:

Ive lived on it for the last 30 years at least.....Most underrated cheese outside of Wis. ever! Field fed cows, don't add biotics and hormones and they don't even advertise that stuff to up their "profile" , they just make some damn good chedda

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Yeah, Tillamook's outskirts are littered with green pastures, where cattle freely roam. I've lived in the mid-west for the greater part of my life and I've never seen so many cattle in one area like Tillamook.

FESTER665 said:

IMO, if someone is stealing COBs in those quantities they deserve to be out of a job....

All he is doing is making sure everyone has all the facts from what I see. If anyone wants to use them, by all means use them. Just know that if they're not an authorized Cree dealer that there are no guarantees.

Nothing more, nothing less.

I'll stick with authorized dealers myself, but others can feel free to do whatever they want with their money.

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I think you make a decent point, as GreenG does too. I sometimes just like taking an argumentative side, even if it's wrong and especially when I have no ties to it! Also, I'm not really taking the conversation at hand seriously, as some of you may tell.

@Greengenes707 , I look forward to reading the results of your conversation(s) with Cree's officials and whether or not KB's products are stolen or even counterfeit! The argument on your part, that I wanted to read, was suppose to be along the lines of preventing your fellow members the trouble of ordering Cree COBs from KB that were counterfeit, i.e. not of the same quality, with the temptations of saving a few extra dollars.

I do like giving you a hard time, can't ya tell?

Seems likely they're the real deal, and not being an authorized dealer doesn't mean they're stolen. 3070 are $25 each by the 1000 at digikey so it's possible someone is turning a buck selling them to KB by the hundred. Not necessarly a bad deal if they're the real thing, but it would be nice to know if the factory warranty will be void.

Funny shit is we're talking about two different companies lol.

REALSTYLES said:

Funny shit is we're talking about two different companies lol.

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Cree and KB or?

AquariusPanta said:

Cree and KB or?

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Kingbrite and Kingbright

REALSTYLES said:

Kingbrite and Kingbright

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And Tillamook cheese.

medicinehuman said:

And Tillamook cheese.

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I would imagine, "testing" a cree led would be as simple as using a par and lux meter, and taking a reading from 6,12,18 inches away, super basic, but would do the job. People could compare readings for bins (make sure your getting the right bin) etc etc. Could use a standard driver at a standardized wattage or whatever. Im not worried though.

I forgot I'm not a troll I'm a Gargoyle

Hahaha

Hi GG,
Btw I enjoy your videos very much, and started going thru your garden thread, nice work

From this link http://www.ledsmagazine.com/articles/2005/12/cree-licenses-white-led-patent-to-kingbright-update.html, we know a taiwan based company, Kingbright is licensed by cree to sell white cree leds, with original cree chips. Kingbrite seems to sell only original white cree leds.

Hard to know what Kingbright does in Taiwan, but having a selling branch or having a distributor of their own named Kingbrite on alibaba, sounds like plausible, don't you think ?

I'm thinking at worst, chips are mislabeled, and bins aren't what they are supposed to be ... but cree would quickly take their license away if they would find out ... bad gamble for both KingBright/Kingbrite.

Counterfeit, in my mind, sounds close to impossible. Wouldn't you agree ?

Keep up the nice work

Greengenes707 said:

KingBrite is NOT a authorized distributor...no matter what

And where did I say they could only be counterfeit?

I get better prices from arrow. Others have from digikey. Authorized and backed. Cree stands behind them and what they are offering...not kingbrite.

No matter what kingbrite is sending or saying...they are not an authorized distributor.

Take what you want from that...but that is all I have said.

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AquariusPanta said:

Well aren't you just all important, Greeny McGreen Genes, meeting with Cree officials to discuss possible counterfeits... OR maybe Cree is just too big of a company and some wise employee(s) of theirs figured a way to rob them of their precious COBs and has since then hooked up KB with some stolen but legitimate COBS, thus allowing your *fellow* RIU members to acquire cheaper deals.

So you could possibly be ending a person's career at Cree, as well as cutting off a so-far credible source of deals for all of us here.

I like your strategy, mane. although I don't understand the logic behind it. Please, feel free to share.

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Let's see...I have purchased 382 CXA/cxb over the last year while you were settling for veros...so not sure why your even here about, but you can back the fuck off. 16 of them from kingbrite. All the rest arrow or digikey without a hiccup or anything. And before I went ahead and dropped on another 300 on what have come to me as skeptical or sample like. Mine are not all marked correct. I asked for verification of what kingbrite has told me from the man(cree) himself. And it was not confirmed by cree and was told specifically that they are not authorized. The new kingbrite or their former name are/were NOT authorized.

When I am buying what I am buying I want to know that they are as legit as they can be. And done though the proper channels.

I shared that with you guys. Some can cry and bitch all they want. But it is the facts. No one ever said that you couldn't buy from a non-authorized place. But KB has advertised themselves as authorized and they are not. And I will not buy from them until is know everything, if at all since they have lost my good faith on multiple occasions now.
My concern is what they are selling to me and what they are telling me. Cree will only confirm it is real or not. If it is, then nothing of it. If it is not, then something could happen. And at that pont is what should happen. And would think if they fake then you would want to know that. But I have never said they are conterfieit. Just that it is a possibility(straight for crees mouth). Read every post again...you guys just take tid bits of what you want to use.