You do know that "temporary assistance for needy families" (TANF), or welfare, goes to families with children, right? And you, Red?
For some of the scumbags whose only goal is to maintain their power I do, but for most I think it's just an unintended consequence of good intentions. Some senile old guy once said that if you rob Peter to pay Paul you will always have the support of Paul. He may have been demented but this sentiment is definitely true.
Umm Yeah, its hard to provide proof of things that haven't happened yet. Its like me predicting the NY Giants will win the super bowl next year and you telling me that I am wrong because I don't put up any proof of the giants winning the super bowl next year. Circular reasoning aside ( Pay attention here sammy seedwell if you are reading this).
And? How does this create success?
I didn't say anything about success. I was just making sure that you were aware of this. With all of the talk about lazy people abusing the system I started to wonder if some of you realized that welfare is a program for families. Not just for a guy who decides he doesn't want to go to work.
Um, that is not what has been happening in this thread.
No, I do not believe that...
The thread is about impending layoffs now that Obama has been re elected, is it not?
Since you exposed your bias to us, I'll share mine.
Yeah, my bad, re-reading that I don't either completely. I phrased it poorly. Let me ask this instead. Do you believe it's a side-effect?
We've had a welfare state for 50 years, give or take, and it hasn't reduced poverty at all. It wasn't designed to do this, but that's what it has done.
And what exactly is my bias? I'd love to know. And while I can't speak for the extreme lefties, I at least have provided links, or as I call them, SOURCES, to everything I've brought to the table.
Yeah, it started that way, but then through about three other conversations, we are where we are now. Are we not?
OK, I used you to stab UB in the eye. Sue me. As to Brazil, I concede they aren't a basket case like much of S. America, I don't remember the rest of the conversation. Brazil is blessed with rich resources, but the interior is largely undeveloped and the people in what we would call poverty. The coast is modern and prosperous, tho I seem to recall they have a high crime rate, but I'm not sure about that.
Hey! I resemble that remark. Damn farmers. I'm voting to lower the threshold and increase the rate for the inheritance tax, and make it retroactive.
Lol, UnlceBuck had nothing to do with your reply to me; or are you just obsessed with him? Just admit that you were wrong, that you made a mistake. The world isn't going to end because of that, you are human after all.
Yes. I'm aware of that. The "temporary" part of it seems to have been forgotten. The funds for it come from families with children, too. Those people don't sit at home all day. They party more than you or I.They tend to be pretty poor about taking care of their children,too. Quit often, the mothers dump the children off on the grandparents and it is they who raise the children. I lived among them for years and saw the poorest excuses for motherhood you can imagine.
Not true at all as far as I'm concerned. I work in healthcare and worked direct patient care for 20 years. As a PT I was up in people's personal space for 1 hr, 3 x a week for sometimes months. I have a very up close and personal feel for all sorts of situations people are in doing home health. I do my best to help those in need. I'm not a rich person so my most valuable commodity to these people is my time and skills, not money.
