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medicineman

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Strange, normally you only ask questions, because you don't know the answers, and thus if you don't know the answers through first hand (as opposed to third hand) knowledge then you are only expressing your opinions and thoughts when you provide what you think the answers are.

Though, they are interesting questions, and not ones that I know the answers to.

As far as a reply to my previous post, it still does little to address the issue that when that group calls Israel a state that should not legally exist they are expressing their opinion, and nothing based on facts when it comes to that opinion.

Now, they might have facts that support their opinion, but that does not mean that it is nothing but an opinion.
I'm pretty sure this is an opinion site. Facts are only verified opinions by someone else. Unless you have first hand knowledge, IE, was there and saw/heard it with your own eyes and ears, it is heresay or opinions. Even if you had the first hand knowledge, it would be your interpretation or opinion of events that transpired, hence opinions. So from now on, be aware that your "facts" are only opinions. Just because you saw it in print or on TV does not make it factual.
 

TheBrutalTruth

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I'm pretty sure this is an opinion site. Facts are only verified opinions by someone else. Unless you have first hand knowledge, IE, was there and saw/heard it with your own eyes and ears, it is heresay or opinions. Even if you had the first hand knowledge, it would be your interpretation or opinion of events that transpired, hence opinions. So from now on, be aware that your "facts" are only opinions. Just because you saw it in print or on TV does not make it factual.
Does that mean that it's only an opinion that Obama is the President?

Or that Friedman Industries is opening a plant in Alabama?

http://www.fandmmag.com/online/article.jsp?siteSection=1&id=2905&pageNum=1
 

TheBrutalTruth

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As long as they're attacking a country with WW2 era weaponry!
Perhaps the Muslims should complain to the Russians then, for giving them shit weaponry?

Well, except Tehran, which, from I understand as some rather unusable F-14s floating around somewhere that were sold to the Shah...
 

medicineman

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Does that mean that it's only an opinion that Obama is the President?

Or that Friedman Industries is opening a plant in Alabama?

http://www.fandmmag.com/online/article.jsp?siteSection=1&id=2905&pageNum=1
Those may be actualities, but the Idea of something does not necessarily make it a fact. We discuss Ideas on this forum. You think all your Ideas are facts and I talk out my ass. Sorry charley, my Ideas have as much pertinence here as yours. Do I know water is wet, yes. Do I know Ice is cold yes. Those may be facts. But the Idea that I'm a commie or that FDR was a commie, those are nothing but idiotic opinions, nuff said.
 

MrJDGaF

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Or perhaps Israel should pick a fight with a real army? I don't know about fight to win, seems more like only fight if you think you can win to me.
 

TheBrutalTruth

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Those may be actualities, but the Idea of something does not necessarily make it a fact. We discuss Ideas on this forum. You think all your Ideas are facts and I talk out my ass. Sorry charley, my Ideas have as much pertinence here as yours. Do I know water is wet, yes. Do I know Ice is cold yes. Those may be facts. But the Idea that I'm a commie or that FDR was a commie, those are nothing but idiotic opinions, nuff said.
Well then Medomao, are you a commie?
 

TheBrutalTruth

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So you'll be one of these people that give all the mouth and then run when they're not mob-handed?
No, I'll be the one that watches from the side lines as those imbeciles go at it. Getting killed is a horribly final solution to very temporary problems.

Of course, the opposite is true if you are a firm believe in Islam, in which case if you die in battle you get to go to paradise with 72 virgins to fill your every wish.
 

MrJDGaF

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So you prefer to hide behind other people while they fight your battles?
Isn't that the MO of a grass?
About as low as you can go!
 

TheBrutalTruth

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So you prefer to hide behind other people while they fight your battles?
Isn't that the MO of a grass?
About as low as you can go!
Well, I could always be in the sewers like you, but I don't want to intrude on your territory.


Well Medomao, are you a commie?
 

MrJDGaF

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Oh so hurtful!:-) Did I hit a raw nerve?

As there's no chance of an intelligent argument here I'm done with this.:peace:
 

TheBrutalTruth

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Oh so hurtful!:-) Did I hit a raw nerve?

As there's no chance of an intelligent argument here I'm done with this.:peace:
No, I just got sick of dealing with your idiotic drivel, don't forget to wipe the snot from your nose, or maybe that's shit from kissing too much ass.
 

medicineman

New Member
Well, I could always be in the sewers like you, but I don't want to intrude on your territory.


Well Medomao, are you a commie?
I don't belong to any affiliation. I voted democratic in the last election. Does that make me a commie? I don't think so. You are awful free with your commie labels. Maybe you should study what it is to actually be a communist. I deplore all that that entails. I lived in a commune once, does that make me a communist? I've never been to a communist meeting and have no desire to do so, So the short answer is no. BTW are you a fascist, do you worship at the feet of Hitler and Mussolini? Same shit.
 

TheBrutalTruth

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I don't belong to any affiliation. I voted democratic in the last election. Does that make me a commie? I don't think so. You are awful free with your commie labels. Maybe you should study what it is to actually be a communist. I deplore all that that entails. I lived in a commune once, does that make me a communist? I've never been to a communist meeting and have no desire to do so, So the short answer is no. BTW are you a fascist, do you worship at the feet of Hitler and Mussolini? Same shit.
No, I'm not a fascist, but if you aren't a commie, does that mean that you are a fascist, that believes that the State has all the answers? That it is best for the people if they blindly follow the state?

What's your political ideology, because it clearly isn't free market capitalism/libertarianism where the only thing the state is used for is to prevent murder, rape, theft and other well defined crimes.
 

medicineman

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No, I'm not a fascist, but if you aren't a commie, does that mean that you are a fascist, that believes that the State has all the answers? That it is best for the people if they blindly follow the state?

What's your political ideology, because it clearly isn't free market capitalism/libertarianism where the only thing the state is used for is to prevent murder, rape, theft and other well defined crimes.
You've got that right. Libertarianism is only for the rich. They are the ones that want to be left alone with their money, no matter they got it with the blood of others. My political status is kinda like this:
1.give us the people back our rights
2.Health care for all "citizens".
3.Guaranteed retirement for all workers, a living wage.
4.government controls and tarrifs on trade with foriegn competitors, bringing jobs back to the US and creating a manufacturing base that will meet the needs of all the people.
5.term limits on all politicians, limiting their ability to become corrupt.
6.abolish all lobbying.
7.Establish fair work rules for all workers, protection from all dangerous chemicals and hazards.
8.Limit executive pay to no more than the POTUS.
9.Curb polution and global warming within the next 10 yrears.
10 Preserve all natural wonders and national parks. IE no building anything on that property or cutting timber for profit. The natural resources belong to the people and they (us) should be paid if corporations are going to extract them for profit, IE mining, oil drilling timber cutting etc. Sort of how Alaskans get a check every year from the government for the oil rights.

Hey I could go on, but I'm pretty sure you can see I am for people, fuck government and fuck corporations as they are one in the same. Don't go off on the bullshit rant about wanting to turn health care over to government, or putting more regulations on corporations will drive them out, fuck them, fuck stock speculators, they are spawn of the devil. Tearing down wall street would be the best thing we could do for the country. Let out all the pot smokers and replace them with speculators, the absolute assholes of the earth, scum, fucking scum.
 
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