List of Things Christianity Has Made Worse

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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yeah you remember that dude ...............'its only belief ' lol
and how you say your a christian is beyond belief ,i have a true christian sat next to me who is disgusted by you .
 
Hepheastus420

Hepheastus420

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ThE sAtIvA hIgH said:
yeah you remember that dude ...............'its only belief ' lol
and how you say your a christian is beyond belief ,i have a true christian sat next to me who is disgusted by you .
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It is only a belief until, one day, it becomes reality....


Why is he/she disgusted with me? And why should I care? Obviously that "Christian" passes judgment on others so many other "Christians" would be disgusted with him/her too lol. There was absolutely no point in telling me about that guys/girls opinion.
 
ThE sAtIvA hIgH

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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Hepheastus420 said:
It is only a belief until, one day, it becomes reality....


Why is he/she disgusted with me? And why should I care? Obviously that "Christian" passes judgment on others so many other "Christians" would be disgusted with him/her too lol. There was absolutely no point in telling me about that guys/girls opinion.
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well this is her exact words , ' a christian believes in the bible , and the bible is gods word , you cannot change and suit gods word to please yourself '
 
ThE sAtIvA hIgH

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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she pretty much says unless you follow gods word of the bible you are not a christian , and to be honest dude i agree with her , if the bible was open to be interprated in any way you like (wich it is not, it clearly states rules and boundaries ) then there would be no point in the bible atall .?
 
Heisenberg

Heisenberg

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Hepheastus420 said:
I can't.... That's why it's only a belief.

It is only a belief until, one day, it becomes reality....
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I think you seriously need to think about this statement, and what the nature of belief is. We belief a proposition because we trust that it accurately represents a state of reality. From a simple belief like "I tied my shoes this morning" to a complicated belief like those behind chemotherapy, this remains true. Even a superstitious belief, like fear of black cats, follows the mechanism of trusting that it states something about reality. Basic survival demands we be accurate about our reality. Beliefs become principals of action. We rightfully attempt to justify beliefs with some sort of evidence. We seek for them to cohere both logically and comparatively with each other. This is why individuals are able to construct a personal view of the world that largely agrees with others. Even something simple like knowing what I mean when I say words like 'danger', 'upwards', or 'seven' stems from this shared connection. Religious beliefs are not distinct; they are not exempt from this premise, so why should they be exempt from the constraints we apply to all other beliefs? Just something I think you should think about when you say a belief is just a belief until it becomes reality.
 
Heisenberg

Heisenberg

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Have to wait a good 25 years or so to find out if I look like him, but I have a similar mustache. The avatar is Walter White aka Heisenberg from Breaking bad.
 
Beefbisquit

Beefbisquit

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ThE sAtIvA hIgH said:
lol hepatitus give it up sunshine , ive described how ive come to my conclusion , now its time for you to come up with why you choose to believe in your fairy bearded man floating in the sky < sniggers ) >
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You realize that personal revelation is a perfectly acceptable reason for people to believe in god, right? Oly and Heph could just "think" there's a god because they think they can feel him or had experiences that lead them to believe he exists. That's acceptable as evidence for them, just not acceptable evidence for me or you. I'm not saying their feeling is correct, and I personally don't believe it is, but demanding they use their internal mental state as proof to you that god exists is trivial, and really juvenile.

Neither of them is willfully trying to change public policy based on their beliefs, so their beliefs don't need to be justified to anyone but themselves. And to my reccolection, neither of them has claimed that they actually have proof that god exists outside their own mental states. There's "evidence" in the bible to most believers, but I think Oly and Heph are both smart enough to realize that just because a book says something, doesn't make it so. It's more than just the bible telling believers to believe, something in their life has happened to make most believers feel close to god.

The only route that can be taken to try to debunk mental states is a deeper understanding of human psychology, why we believe the things we do, and why we have a hard time filtering our own thought patterns. It is my honest belief that religious people are simply misinterpreting their own brain signals, it's not a defect, or an illness. Even then it's just a best guess as there's so much we don't know about the brain.

It's funny really, most people assume they're an expert at their own mind because it's "theirs", when in reality most people don't have the foggiest clue as to how their own brain works or deals with stimuli.
 
eye exaggerate

eye exaggerate

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Beefbisquit said:
You realize that personal revelation is a perfectly reasonable reason for people to believe in god, right? Oly and Heph could just "think" there's a god because they think they can feel him or had experiences that lead them to believe he exists. That's acceptable as evidence for them, just not acceptable evidence for me or you. I'm not saying their feeling is correct, and I personally don't believe it is, but demanding they use their internal mental state as proof to you that god exists is trivial, and really juvenile.

Neither of them is willfully trying to change public policy based on their beliefs, so their beliefs don't need to be justified to anyone but themselves. And to my reccolection, neither of them has claimed that they actually have proof that god exists outside their own mental states. There's "evidence" in the bible to most believers, but I think Oly and Heph are both smart enough to realize that just because a book says something, doesn't make it so. It's more than just the bible telling believers to believe, something in their life has happened to make most believers feel close to god.

The only route that can be taken to try to debunk mental states is a deeper understanding of human psychology, why we believe the things we do, and why we have a hard time filtering our own thought patterns. It is my honest belief that religious people are simply misinterpreting their own brain signals, it's not a defect, or an illness. Even then it's just a best guess as there's so much we don't know about the brain.

It's funny really, most people assume they're an expert at their own mind because it's "theirs", when in reality most people don't have the foggiest clue as to how their own brain works or deals with stimuli.
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...yeehaw! :)
 
olylifter420

olylifter420

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im glad you have the time n patience to stroke ollys balls but i dont .
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you are bad atheist man... your own kind dont even like you and think you are the MR patient... your mum is a believer so that makes her a retard as well... punk ass
 
Hepheastus420

Hepheastus420

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ThE sAtIvA hIgH said:
well this is her exact words , ' a christian believes in the bible , and the bible is gods word , you cannot change and suit gods word to please yourself '
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So it's bad if I supposedly change the bible to fit myself (which I have not), but it's cool of her to judge others harshly which the bible says not to do. Lol what a hypocrite.
 
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