Long term Storage of Mothers/Clones? How do I save these Genetics?

Just read the whole thread. Very good suggestions have been mentioned but I haven't seen anyone mention this:

Take some clones now, make sure they are really dry, put them in a ziplock bag, add a little rice to absorb moisture, and stick them in the veggie tray of your fridge. I've rooted clones after being in the fridge for six months. Might take 3 weeks to establish roots, but I've never had any issue getting roots and growing them out. In my opinion, this is the easiest way.

For a stoner solution....convert your bathtub into a bubbler, throw in an underwater pump, and add a drip line for your nutrient solution.
 

Thedillestpickle

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Dillest i don't mean to be a copycat and tell you advice which you gave me so no copyright infringement attempted.

Growing in 50/50 coco and perlite both nutrientless mediums?
Surely you won't stand a chance with this unless you are going to attempt it in actual soil but new highly fertilised soil so it lasts the 3month's

Are you attempting for this grow to be the full 3 months 1month veg, 2 months bud so they are ready when you get back or are these going to be a big 3 month veg?

I think your missing the point of the experiment which is merely preserve the plant until my return at which point I will try to bring the plant out of the shock and veg it until I can take cuttings. I don't want it to grow at all and I definately don't want it to produce bud. It's a mother plant that I want to keep alive while I'm gone

a mildly fertile soil is a good suggestion however, I'm not sure the soil would release the nutrients properly while being chilled to 4 degrees celcius but it may work better than the hydro/coco solution being used. So far this is working but I'll keep that in mind
 

Thedillestpickle

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Just read the whole thread. Very good suggestions have been mentioned but I haven't seen anyone mention this:

Take some clones now, make sure they are really dry, put them in a ziplock bag, add a little rice to absorb moisture, and stick them in the veggie tray of your fridge. I've rooted clones after being in the fridge for six months. Might take 3 weeks to establish roots, but I've never had any issue getting roots and growing them out. In my opinion, this is the easiest way.

For a stoner solution....convert your bathtub into a bubbler, throw in an underwater pump, and add a drip line for your nutrient solution.
6 months! this is exactly the type of thing I'm looking for, I will definately give that a shot, can't hurt to try. I will try my method as well just incase. any specific advice as far as the clone in the bag goes? Should a take a large cutting and store it and then trim it down to a smaller size when I return? My instinct tells me that these cuttings would wilt insantly on being removed, maybe slowly introduce them to a wamer environment when rooting? Do you use an aeroponics cloner? I'm sure having one may help my chance of success

The bathtub idea wouldnt be so great as I won't have an AC cooling the home while I'm away and it would likely cook or at least stretch to a rediculous size before I returned. The cool environment doesnt seem to kill the plant, it slows its growth and use of nutrient/water down considerably, which is exactly what I need
 

spex420

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Just read the whole thread. Very good suggestions have been mentioned but I haven't seen anyone mention this:

Take some clones now, make sure they are really dry, put them in a ziplock bag, add a little rice to absorb moisture, and stick them in the veggie tray of your fridge. I've rooted clones after being in the fridge for six months. Might take 3 weeks to establish roots, but I've never had any issue getting roots and growing them out. In my opinion, this is the easiest way.

For a stoner solution....convert your bathtub into a bubbler, throw in an underwater pump, and add a drip line for your nutrient solution.
best advice iv seen yet in this thread bathtub is a awsome idea. it would be sketchy rigging a t8 above the bathtub haha but... you should basicly chop the mother down to nothing and use like 3 clones for each idea your bound to get a few hits
 

Thedillestpickle

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best advice iv seen yet in this thread bathtub is a awsome idea. it would be sketchy rigging a t8 above the bathtub haha but... you should basicly chop the mother down to nothing and use like 3 clones for each idea your bound to get a few hits
Yea not sure I would try that bathtub, that would be more geared for if I actually wanted to maintain steady growth while I was away, which would be a bad idea for a 3 month period unless you had some crazy computer operated automated room

I agree though, trying a couple cuttings of different methods will ensure a better chance of success. I'll need to get my mother plants ready for a massive cutting donation
 

spex420

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if you put the t8 or even a 25w cfl 2 feet away in a bathtube dwc (wow that sounds ghetto) the growth would be so slow but it would still grow and it would continue to grow for the duration you would have somthing to cut from when you get back what have ya got to loose 6$ pump from walmart 10$ bag for hydroton... for under 20 bucks you could have a surefire way to keep your clones alive
 

Thedillestpickle

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hahah I think a DWC would be a better way to go, just top up the bathtub once with solution, the little plant will never drain or alter the pH too much in that much solution. That could work quite well

the 150g drip system sounds a bit crazy, but maybe a 150gallon pot(hah!) would work better with coco/perlite. Just soak the medium before I leave and give it a 23 watt CFL. Coco should still be damp when I return
 

spex420

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couldnt you just rig the dripper into the bathtub water? sorry im not familiar with hydro other then dwc.
 
6 months! this is exactly the type of thing I'm looking for, I will definately give that a shot, can't hurt to try. I will try my method as well just incase. any specific advice as far as the clone in the bag goes? Should a take a large cutting and store it and then trim it down to a smaller size when I return? My instinct tells me that these cuttings would wilt insantly on being removed, maybe slowly introduce them to a wamer environment when rooting? Do you use an aeroponics cloner? I'm sure having one may help my chance of success

The bathtub idea wouldnt be so great as I won't have an AC cooling the home while I'm away and it would likely cook or at least stretch to a rediculous size before I returned. The cool environment doesnt seem to kill the plant, it slows its growth and use of nutrient/water down considerably, which is exactly what I need
The bathtub idea was mostly a joke. Although I'd love to use my tub for a grow, I know my wife just wouldn't allow that.

Heres what I usually do when I need to sit a strain for a few months. Take your cuts from the mother. I usually go about 6 inches long. Make sure to wipe off any moisture with a paper towel and then lay flat in the ziplock bag. Numbers of clones per bag don't really matter. I've cut a whole mother plant up before and placed it in a single bag. Dryness matters a lot more than quantity. Add a tsp of rice to the bag and leave in the veggie portion of your fridge.

When it's time to start that strain again, I pull the clones and set the stems in a glass of water to soak and then I make my angled cut underwater, split the bottom of the stem and then add rooting gel. I've used bubble cloners, aeroponics...even those cheap ones from Walmart with the plastic covers and the dirt plugs.

I'd love to see the results on the original experiment. I'm always up for a science experiment.
 

Thedillestpickle

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The bathtub idea was mostly a joke. Although I'd love to use my tub for a grow, I know my wife just wouldn't allow that.

Heres what I usually do when I need to sit a strain for a few months. Take your cuts from the mother. I usually go about 6 inches long. Make sure to wipe off any moisture with a paper towel and then lay flat in the ziplock bag. Numbers of clones per bag don't really matter. I've cut a whole mother plant up before and placed it in a single bag. Dryness matters a lot more than quantity. Add a tsp of rice to the bag and leave in the veggie portion of your fridge.

When it's time to start that strain again, I pull the clones and set the stems in a glass of water to soak and then I make my angled cut underwater, split the bottom of the stem and then add rooting gel. I've used bubble cloners, aeroponics...even those cheap ones from Walmart with the plastic covers and the dirt plugs.

I'd love to see the results on the original experiment. I'm always up for a science experiment.
Amazing, sounds so easy. I didn't expect that

I'll get myself a bubble cloner before I leave as my success with rooting in jiffyplugs and rockwool have been low, and slow

The plant in the fridge still looks healthy. Different but healthy. I think it will hold on for quite a while the question is will the pot hold enough water? but that can always be corrected with a larger pot next time
 

tpsmc

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I dont think anyone has suggested this yet, but if you cut all the leaves in half there will be less leaf surface which means less transpiration which means it will need less water. It will also slow growth. I usually cut the leaves on my clones so they focus on root growth and dont lose too much moisture before roots develop.
 

SickleCell

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I might do that as a backup plan just incase

So are there absolutely no drawbacks to doing this?
Do I lose hybrid vigour?
Do my feminized seeds have a tendency to hermie due to them coming from a hermied plant?(I can see how this is different from other forms of hermi-ing, so I'm guessing probably not, just want to ask)
There must be some drawback?

If there was no drawback then you would have breeders selling you seeds of their best female phenos... which isn't the case. Feminized from breeders comes from a male and female plant poliating and the polinated calyxes are treated with something to cause the seeds to be feminized. so why aren't the breeders offering "clone-like" seeds of their prize female phenos? If there's no down side to this the only reason I can think of is that they don't want anyone to have their prize mother plants genetics... it would be like giving out the recipe to KFC chicken...
As far as I know/read the seeds you make using Colloidal Silver wont go hermi on you because male pollen is not stress induced. (only inhibits certain hormone)
and should have the same genetics as the F1 plant
I don't think it would be much of a hybrid because its not different genetics but the same plant. seems legit
 

Thedillestpickle

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I think the feminized seeds would be the best option for a longer term storage, I only meant for 3 months of storage though so I think my thread title may have been a little misleading in what I was looking for.

Unfortunately my entire crop has become pollinated from a male I let go to long(eithe that or there is a hermie hiding somewhere).
So I can't really do the feminized seed thing anymore.

I'll just try to keep some clones alive in the fridge
 
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