abandonconflict
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You seem upset.
"look at my african-american over there"
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Ace Yonder
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lol, "my hero" because I like him more than the republicans that came after? Sorry, I have a higher bar for hero than that. Unlike you, I don't have to idolize everyone I see redemptive qualities in. But okay bitchboy, since you seem to be sticking on this point, who else was "a shaper of the times"? Actually, I want to know ALL the shapers of the times in 1904. Every. Single. One.
Ace Yonder
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You seem mentally challenged.
abandonconflict
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Why are you so anxious to change the subject away from your hero Teddy Roosevelt having been an extremely racist eugenicist imperialist? That is what we were talking about before you started distorting my arguments. The fact is, he was an extremely racist, white supremacist, eugenicist imperialist who was not simply a product of his times, but a shaper of his times. Why are you so intent on defending that piece of shit?
Yet you're the one distorting my arguments because you can't come up with sensible retorts otherwise.
So you've been outsmarted by an anti-racist who you deem mentally challenged. You have already expressed that you would consider eugenics, if it could have prevented me, due to my way of thinking. This line of argument is called ad hominem, you have not explicated my arguments, you have only passed personal judgment, dumbass.
He is. He gets scared real easy, as well. Try not to spook him.
Ace Yonder
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You don't have a real argument, you have already admitted that your views are based on assumptions. And I never defended Teddy Roosevelt as such, I merely stated that the rest of the world was, largely, as bad as he was, and I still maintain that. You have done nothing to contradict that point, and every concrete assertion you have made has been factually inaccurate (TR as most powerful man in the world, leader of most powerful country in the world, etc.). If your only argument is that TR was racist, cool beans, no one is arguing. But you are saying he is worse than everyone else, and then offering nothing to support that except your own assumption that since he was bad they must have been good. And BTW, tone down the attempts to sound smart, misusing words like explicate never makes you seem bright. Next time you see a big word that you like, try looking it up before you take it out for a test drive.
abandonconflict
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This is incorrect. I made a single assumption and it was ancillary but not instrumental to my argument. I assumed that the victims of a white supremacist, eugenicist, imperialist ideology were not its ideologues. To say that my views are therefore based on assumptions is an utterly asinine mischaracterization of my arguments and views, which you clearly do not have the capacity to understand. It is furthermore a very sensible assumption seeing as how those victims were slaughtered in order to make way for the imperialist annexation of their lands by white supremacist expansion.
You have vigorously rebuked my argument while distorting it in order defend him, calling him progressive on several occasions, so yes, you defended him while maintaining the fallacy that the "rest of the world was largely as bad as he was". He was a white supremacist, eugenicist imperialist bastard who changed the course of a nation just before it's greatest expansion into imperialism.
I have clearly contradicted that point by repeatedly asserting that he was a white supremacist, eugenicist imperialist who was not simply a product of his times but a shaper of his times, while you have repeatedly distorted my arguments because you lacked the capacity to grasp them.
Well, what you're doing is far from arguing, more like fumbling to defend your white supremacist, eugenicist, imperialist hero.
Not sure where you got that, maybe reading is not your strong point. Logic is clearly your downfall.
So you're saying you needed a dictionary in order to read my argument, yet you still failed to explicate it correctly. This explains why you have so utterly failed to give a valid and useful retort.
bluntmassa1
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Look at my African American. 
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ThickStemz
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No it wasn't. I didn't say anything about their inate ability.
I said I'm glad we didn't limit our culture at the expense of theirs. That isn't racist. And I was essentially paraphrasing Bertrand Russell. Widely regarded as the greatest philosopher of the first half of the 20th century