Make no mistake: Medicare for All would cut taxes for most Americans

blu3bird

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PJ Diaz said:
Wow dude, you are a real duchebag. I guess I'll add you to my block list along with Rob Roy and Uncle Buck. Congrats. I answered your question a page or two back, and even gave you the specific reference. Personally I think you must be a racist is sheep's clothing. It's pretty clear you are a troll, trying to call me out multiple times on something I already answered. No, I'm not a white supremacist. My original point was that white males should acknowledge that yes they do have a privilege that non-white and non-males do not have. It's important to be aware of the big picture.

Somehow tho, you decided to try to twist my words apart and take them out of context. Yes I made a mistake with the 4%, but I acknowledged that I made a mistake. I even showed you a stat that should have helped you to understand that it was an easy mistake to make. Why did you decide to twist my words and attack me like that, when clearly I was attempting to speak on the behalf of equality? I'm not sure, but I'm only left to assume that you are actually a right-wing fanatic, attempting to sow dissent. Well I find that sad, but I am also not interested in wasting any more of my time with you, Mr GOP.
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Point fingers at everyone else, but are you going to recognize your own privilege, cracker?

You have a high paying and secure union job only because of your skin color, you need to walk away from that job, you stole that job from a minority, you don't deserve to have that job, typical white thief.
You have free health health insurance and no deductible, you need to give that up to a minority, you don't pay for it, you haven't earned it.
Lastly and frankly, you've been posting too much and using up valuable bandwidth, you should stop posting so a minority can post more.

Practice what you preach Mr. hypocrite ultra liberal honky racist
 
Fogdog

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PJ Diaz said:
Wow dude, you are a real duchebag. I guess I'll add you to my block list along with Rob Roy and Uncle Buck. Congrats. I answered your question a page or two back, and even gave you the specific reference. Personally I think you must be a racist is sheep's clothing. It's pretty clear you are a troll, trying to call me out multiple times on something I already answered. No, I'm not a white supremacist. My original point was that white males should acknowledge that yes they do have a privilege that non-white and non-males do not have. It's important to be aware of the big picture.

Somehow tho, you decided to try to twist my words apart and take them out of context. Yes I made a mistake with the 4%, but I acknowledged that I made a mistake. I even showed you a stat that should have helped you to understand that it was an easy mistake to make. Why did you decide to twist my words and attack me like that, when clearly I was attempting to speak on the behalf of equality? I'm not sure, but I'm only left to assume that you are actually a right-wing fanatic, attempting to sow dissent. Well I find that sad, but I am also not interested in wasting any more of my time with you, Mr GOP.
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False claims and cry for pity.

You still haven't explained why you said "Race does matter when it comes to immigrants. Only 4% of immigrants are white. To turn a blind eye to that fact only serves to make you color blind. " Of course as you were forced to admit, the real number is 17.8%. But you haven't explained why the low number, if true, matters to you. It wouldn't have mattered to me one bit.

I never said you were espousing the false conspiracy theory of white genocide. I am saying that because you continue to run away from my requests for you to explain yourself, you appear to others as if you quite laughably were yet again pushing a false right wing conspiracy theory. So, explain why it is important to you that "only 4% of immigrants are white".
 
Fogdog

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Lucky Luke said:
Does it? Not surprising. Its not whites who are living in extreme poverty and have to relocate as a last resort. Whites probably caused the reason they have to relocate.
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exactly correct. This is why I keep asking @PJ Diaz why he was making such a big deal out from his misconception that "only 4% of immigrants are white".
 
PJ Diaz

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blu3bird said:
Point fingers at everyone else, but are you going to recognize your own privilege, cracker?

You have a high paying and secure union job only because of your skin color, you need to walk away from that job, you stole that job from a minority, you don't deserve to have that job, typical white thief.
You have free health health insurance and no deductible, you need to give that up to a minority, you don't pay for it, you haven't earned it.
Lastly and frankly, you've been posting too much and using up valuable bandwidth, you should stop posting so a minority can post more.

Practice what you preach Mr. hypocrite ultra liberal honky racist
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Yes I do recognize my own privilege. Unfortunately it's something that I can not control. It definitely contributed to me getting to where I am today, which is important to acknowledge because others without the same such privilege will have a more difficult time than I, however that also doesn't mean that privilege is the only reason. Recognizing and acknowledging this is the first step in moving towards compassion and empathy. That said, forcing homeless and destitution on myself due to my privilege isn't the answer. Buddha tried that many years ago, and he found it didn't work out. He realized that the middle way is where it's at. I'm not a Buddhist, but I do think the middle way is a good part to take. I'm sorry that you feel I'm posting too much, but it also seems that I am repeatedly being asked questions. If I don't respond, I get called out for that too. Don't ask questions, if you don't like or want to hear the answers. Simple.
 
UncleBuck

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PJ Diaz said:
Yes I do recognize my own privilege. Unfortunately it's something that I can not control. It definitely contributed to me getting to where I am today, which is important to acknowledge because others without the same such privilege will have a more difficult time than I, however that also doesn't mean that privilege is the only reason. Recognizing and acknowledging this is the first step in moving towards compassion and empathy. That said, forcing homeless and destitution on myself due to my privilege isn't the answer. Buddha tried that many years ago, and he found it didn't work out. He realized that the middle way is where it's at. I'm not a Buddhist, but I do think the middle way is a good part to take. I'm sorry that you feel I'm posting too much, but it also seems that I am repeatedly being asked questions. If I don't respond, I get called out for that too. Don't ask questions, if you don't like or want to hear the answers. Simple.
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People are forcing you into homelessness and destitution because you’re white?

ffs not another nazi buddha
 
dandyrandy

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rollitup said:
That would be cool. I had to sign up for Medicare last year, but I figured that I would never benefit from it. If this passes, maybe I will use it! :lol:


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I think the Republicans will vote it down even though then they can negotiate on drug prices if it passes.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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PJ Diaz said:
Yes I do recognize my own privilege. Unfortunately it's something that I can not control. It definitely contributed to me getting to where I am today, which is important to acknowledge because others without the same such privilege will have a more difficult time than I, however that also doesn't mean that privilege is the only reason. Recognizing and acknowledging this is the first step in moving towards compassion and empathy. That said, forcing homeless and destitution on myself due to my privilege isn't the answer. Buddha tried that many years ago, and he found it didn't work out. He realized that the middle way is where it's at. I'm not a Buddhist, but I do think the middle way is a good part to take. I'm sorry that you feel I'm posting too much, but it also seems that I am repeatedly being asked questions. If I don't respond, I get called out for that too. Don't ask questions, if you don't like or want to hear the answers. Simple.
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hmm

"forcing homeless and destitution on myself due to my privilege". "Race does matter when it comes to immigration. Only 4% of immigrants are white"

Ok, so, yeah, the first quote is taken from your passage where you prostrate yourself on the altar of multiculturalism and declare your white guilt due to "privilege". I guess you can claim it was "taken out of context". But really, dude. Nobody talks that way in real life. You are faking it.

In the short time PJ Diaz account was resurrected after years of inactivity, this current manifestation comes to roost almost immediately in the politics section where he never posted before. This current manifestation of PJ Diaz is full of lies, distortions, fake conspiracy theories and for example, when he quoted fake stats about immigration, his guise slips. Instead of simply explaining yourself, you accuse me of somehow distorting your words when I've most carefully and consistently quoted your statement in its entirety.

methinks the lady doth protest too much with a troll accent.
 
blu3bird

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PJ Diaz said:
Yes I do recognize my own privilege. Unfortunately it's something that I can not control. It definitely contributed to me getting to where I am today, which is important to acknowledge because others without the same such privilege will have a more difficult time than I, however that also doesn't mean that privilege is the only reason. Recognizing and acknowledging this is the first step in moving towards compassion and empathy. That said, forcing homeless and destitution on myself due to my privilege isn't the answer. Buddha tried that many years ago, and he found it didn't work out. He realized that the middle way is where it's at. I'm not a Buddhist, but I do think the middle way is a good part to take. I'm sorry that you feel I'm posting too much, but it also seems that I am repeatedly being asked questions. If I don't respond, I get called out for that too. Don't ask questions, if you don't like or want to hear the answers. Simple.
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So you acknowledge your privilege, but make excuses and refuse to relinquish it?

You are a goddamn fake

Non white folks struggle to have even half of what you have, but because you recognize that you're privileged, everything is ok?

You are a goddamn fake


What you're doing and saying is that you're using non white folks hardships and struggle as an excuse to maintain your comfy position in life

You are the epitome of racism
 
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PJ Diaz

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blu3bird said:
So you acknowledge your privilege, but make excuses and refuse to relinquish it?

You are a goddamn fake

Non white folks struggle to have even half of what you have, but because you recognize that you're privileged, everything is ok?

You are a goddamn fake


What you're doing and saying is that you're using non white folks hardships and struggle as an excuse to maintain your comfy position in life

You are the epitome of racism
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What do you suggest I do, kill myself as to mitigate my privilege?

I'm going to quote a passage from Chapter 1 of the book "Privilege, Power, and Difference" (third edition), written by Allan G. Johnson, as I think it may apply to your way of looking at things:

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The book itself is rather expensive, but a worthwhile investment. If you don't want to spend the money but still want to educate yourself, you can download a pdf version on the first edition here: https://lwtech.instructure.com/files/40339505/download

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PJ Diaz

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For those who don't like to read.. You can skip to 6 mins 45 sec for parts relevant to the conversation at hand..
 
Fogdog

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blu3bird said:
So you acknowledge your privilege, but make excuses and refuse to relinquish it?

You are a goddamn fake

Non white folks struggle to have even half of what you have, but because you recognize that you're privileged, everything is ok?

You are a goddamn fake


What you're doing and saying is that you're using non white folks hardships and struggle as an excuse to maintain your comfy position in life

You are the epitome of racism
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That wasn't a sincere post, nor should we believe anything that he says about himself. He's an effing troll and aped liberal white guilt. He even showed us where he got his words from. I doubt he even lives in this country.
 
blu3bird

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Back to the thread topic -

Bernie doesn't feel he has to tell us how much M4A is going to cost us or how it will be paid for, just that we'll magically save money by paying more taxes.

But but but, blu3bird there's no more detuctibles and premiums! No shit, it's going to be called payroll deductions from now on, absolutely brilliant!

Bernie's only plan is to tax those rich mf'ers.
Anybody who has even half of a brain should know that rich people aren't going to just roll over tuck their tail and pay for everything.

All the average working Americans are the ones who are going to shoulder the cost of Bernie's dogshit plan, it will be great when people have free free free health insurance but can't make house payments or eat because their paycheck was devoured by taxes

I'm looking forward to living in tent and eating crackers and crumbs, but on the bright side, I'll have free health insurance.

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Bernie Sanders says he doesn't intend to release a funding plan for Medicare for All any time soon

Sanders said in a CNBC interview that "I don't think I have to" release details specifying how universal healthcare coverage would be paid for.
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