You keep yammering about rocks, no one knows what the fuck you are talking about because you suck at expressing your ideas. I will give you credit for using the correct words in the correct context though, so kudos to you.
Mass Murder by Blade, you Vast Idiots
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You keep yammering about rocks, no one knows what the fuck you are talking about because you suck at expressing your ideas. I will give you credit for using the correct words in the correct context though, so kudos to you.
I can go to the store and buy a key that will operate any car I desire.
You fellas never heard of a locksmith I assume. Or going to the dealer, giving them the VIN# and having them order you a brand new fucking key that opens all the doors and starts the car.
LOL maybe you two can call it the fallacy of vague interdenominational multidimensional equivocation or something and hope everyone thinks you have big brains or something.
Beefbisquit
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LOL - you're taking the argument I made AS A FALLACY, and claiming that as my actual stance. When I've stated, 4 fucking times already, (and you've RESPONDED to those posts), that it was a fallacious argument I was making ON PURPOSE to show how any argument can be turned into a slippery slope. It literally says "THIS IS A RETARDED ARGUMENT" IN the very post you're referencing.
WEEDING CUPMWEHENSHUUN.
Fuck off.
Do you understand what the word fallacious means?
fal·la·cious
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adjective
adjective: fallacious
1.
based on a mistaken belief.
"fallacious arguments"
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More strawmen arguments. Things I never said.... more lies from the "70mph, 3lbs rock throwing, deadliest man in Texas...."
I said more ILLEGAL GUNS FOR CRIMINALS = more murder. You twat. lol
Stop huffing and puffing at strawmen. It's not doing you any favors.
Doer
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Not really, since there is no comparison to autos at all.
We DO NOT have a protected freedom of transportation, as part of our Constitution.
Doer
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So? What are you saying? Your argument is fallacious? I agree.
It is fallacious to propose that more gun restrictions will lead to less, murder, assault and other crimes.
It does not. You have twisted the facts. So the false argument, Philo, is that you are being reasonable.
The facts are the opposite of the claim. GUNS SAVE.
Beefbisquit
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Laws deter from action, you dummy. Just like jails do.
spazatak
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Dont the locks hold then there?
Beefbisquit
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That's where you're wrong, and you have no basis for your argument. You just keep saying 'more legal guns = less murders' and true enough, the trend has recently shown that increased gun ownership, by law abiding citizens, is correlating with a decrease in murder rates. No indication of causation, which is what you obviously believe is the truth. Which is a facile argument.
Taking steps to prevent criminals from obtaining firearms will reduce the amount of criminals obtaining firearms.
You keep saying "GUNS SAVE" but offer no evidence of this.
You've stated that gun 'saves' are equal to gun murders when taking a strictly utilitarian stance, when they're clearly not. Another bad argument, riddled with fallacies, like the equating any time anyone ever used a gun in any way, to stop anyone from doing anything against the law, to gun murders... lol
It's just absolutely absurd. Yet, you keep making the same argument...
Beefbisquit
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Not true at all. Lots of people don't resist, plead guilty, and serve their time.
Why would you assume that everyone in every prison is trying to escape and needs to be forcibly be held their with firearms?
LOL - where do you get this stuff?
EDIT:
Where's the prisoners being stopped from escaping by guards with weapons?
The Taft Correctional Institution doesn't even have fences. Prisoners don't leave based on the 'honor' system.
http://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/former-inmates-description-o.html
So give the criminals LEGAL guns?
You seem to be stuck on the legality of the guns having anything to do with the use of the gun.
They do? So all those laws against murder really deterred those murderers? Or did they just deter the law abiding person, while criminals could care less?
Laws don't deter criminals, fact.
I mean if laws really did what you claim, then there would be no murders. But its pretty obvious that your claim is 100% false, because of the fact that we have many murders each year.
Doer
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Illegal guns. You can't give criminals, legal guns, by definition.
So, there is no WAY to control illegal guns.
Beefbisquit
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I was commenting on his statements regarding you, and your compatriots, making arguments based on fallacious and specious premises and thinking you're correct. lol
Beefbisquit
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As already stated many times, you stop legal guns from becoming illegal guns. Making it harder for manufacturers to off load to the black market, and making it harder for criminals to steal firearms, will reduce the amount of illegal firearms in circulation.
Dr Kynes
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really? NOBODY is arguing for firearms prohibition?
http://www.bradycampaign.org/
http://www.un.org/disarmament/ATT/
http://controlarms.org/en/about-controlarms/
seems like SOMEBODY is still pushing for prohibition...
Beefbisquit
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...in this thread.
Dr Kynes
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ok.
i feel that.
unfortunately this thread is not the forum which will decide whether we shall have more unreasonable gun laws or outright prohibition.
many lefty politicians, if they had the power, would prohibit sale of guns and institute seizures of existing guns.
Doer
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Beef, you WANT more restrictions. And you want us to swallow, that these are reasonable ideas.