Need outdoor soil recipe that does NOT need to "cook, anyone???

shawn705

shawn705

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Well the thread says it all. I need an outdoor soil recipe i can directly put my seedlings in and not have to cook the soil at all before hand.. Something simple and easy would be awesome as this is going to be be a kind of guerilla grow.. What ive got so far is cow and sheep manure, peat moss, perlite, worm castings.
 
hydrosoil78

hydrosoil78

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I use the foxfarm granules with mycorrhizae, there are vegetable, fruit tree or all purpose, I use all purpose. you can use liquid nutrients with it or just water. something with mycorrhizae helps all around.
 
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MarijuanaGrowMan

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what you have so far sounds good, i would add fish compost(such as sea soil) pot ash, bat guano, bone meal/bloodmeal, to what you have already and that should be good, there is a list of amounts of admenents per gallon of soil i found awhile ago online im sure you could find it if you did some searching.
 
shawn705

shawn705

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MarijuanaGrowMan said:
what you have so far sounds good, i would add fish compost(such as sea soil) pot ash, bat guano, bone meal/bloodmeal, to what you have already and that should be good, there is a list of amounts of admenents per gallon of soil i found awhile ago online im sure you could find it if you did some searching.
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dont u have to "cook bone and blood meal into the soil so it doesnt burn roots or cause nute lock up?
 
shawn705

shawn705

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hydrosoil78 said:
I use the foxfarm granules with mycorrhizae, there are vegetable, fruit tree or all purpose, I use all purpose. you can use liquid nutrients with it or just water. something with mycorrhizae helps all around.
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Pro mix has mycorrhizae in it does it not?
 
Sunbiz1

Sunbiz1

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shawn705 said:
Pro mix has mycorrhizae in it does it not?
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No, it does not...must be added. Promix contains zero soil, all nutes must be added via either granule or liquid feeding.

And you will need lime to adjust your ph properly, about 1/3 cup per gallon of peat. Your ingredients listed to begin thread are pretty close to what I'm running...except I use humus(aged compost)as opposed to sheep shit...which is probably too hot for new seedlings. I would add that after first transplant?.

You didn't state whether these are contained or in-ground so I'm guessing.
 
ilovethegreen

ilovethegreen

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get some compost, your steer and sheep manure, maybe some bat guano and humus. and of course peat and perlite and shit. thats all you really need, just use ACT's
 
BeastGrow

BeastGrow

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Promix HP with mycorrizae mixed with Fox Farm Ocean Forest, and watering with Jacks Classic All purpose. working well for me. it was like 140 bucks for all that and a gallon of PH down. its enough for like 15 x 5 gallon holes.
 
shawn705

shawn705

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Sunbiz1 said:
No, it does not...must be added. Promix contains zero soil, all nutes must be added via either granule or liquid feeding.

And you will need lime to adjust your ph properly, about 1/3 cup per gallon of peat. Your ingredients listed to begin thread are pretty close to what I'm running...except I use humus(aged compost)as opposed to sheep shit...which is probably too hot for new seedlings. I would add that after first transplant?.

You didn't state whether these are contained or in-ground so I'm guessing.
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there going in the ground, probly 3x3 holes for each plant, so all i need to do is go to my hyrdro/gardning shop and ask for equal amounts of promix, worm casting, humus,cow manure, peat moss and perlite? how does the dolomite lime work.. doesnt that need to cook prior to planting? im gunna grow my seedling to about 4 nodes, then put them directly into the ground, good or bad idea, i never grew outdoors always indoors
 
Sunbiz1

Sunbiz1

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shawn705 said:
there going in the ground, probly 3x3 holes for each plant, so all i need to do is go to my hyrdro/gardning shop and ask for equal amounts of promix, worm casting, humus,cow manure, peat moss and perlite? how does the dolomite lime work.. doesnt that need to cook prior to planting? im gunna grow my seedling to about 4 nodes, then put them directly into the ground, good or bad idea, i never grew outdoors always indoors
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Skip the manure, that combined with humus and castings will make your blend too hot for young plants. Unless you are way north in Ontario, your existing soil should do just fine...simply amend with peat/perlite/and perhaps lime if you are not near a river...in which case lime is already present. Your worm castings already exist in the native soil.

It's a LOT easier and cheaper than hauling in full soil replacement...just make sure it is dry when you amend.

good luck!

Oh, and don't cook anything...that's only used as a last resort in soil sterilization.
 
shawn705

shawn705

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Sunbiz1 said:
Skip the manure, that combined with humus and castings will make your blend too hot for young plants. Unless you are way north in Ontario, your existing soil should do just fine...simply amend with peat/perlite/and perhaps lime if you are not near a river...in which case lime is already present. Your worm castings already exist in the native soil.

It's a LOT easier and cheaper than hauling in full soil replacement...just make sure it is dry when you amend.

good luck!

Oh, and don't cook anything...that's only used as a last resort in soil sterilization.
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i do live in northern ontario so what do u suggest i do Sunbiz1?
 
Carmarelo

Carmarelo

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You may not need it to cook, but you definitely need the nutrients to break down, and it won't happen overnight.

Here's a recipe that you can use right away:

Soil
Doo doo
More soil
more doo doo
 
Sunbiz1

Sunbiz1

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shawn705 said:
i do live in northern ontario so what do u suggest i do Sunbiz1?
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Oh fuck, I've spent summers up there...digging foundations for cabins. You'll be lucky to find soil at all, it's all rock.

Lemme think about the rest and get back w/you b/c the native soil is highly acidic from what I recall(pine needles).
 
doowmd

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shawn705 said:
there going in the ground, probly 3x3 holes for each plant, so all i need to do is go to my hyrdro/gardning shop and ask for equal amounts of promix, worm casting, humus,cow manure, peat moss and perlite? how does the dolomite lime work.. doesnt that need to cook prior to planting? im gunna grow my seedling to about 4 nodes, then put them directly into the ground, good or bad idea, i never grew outdoors always indoors
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Miracle grow moisture control has coco coir in it and I've heard good things on here about it really helping between waterings for outdoor grows.. That along w/ a bag of peat moss a bag of composted cow manure and a cup of lime all mixed together and placed in a 3x3 hole and ur good.


ps. the lime basically ph's the soil for u, the bagged soil will already have perlite in it. Too much and it rises to the top and makes the grow obvious from above.


the recipe goes:
2 bags mg mc soil
1 bag composted cow manure
1 bag peat moss
1 cup lime



if that isnt enough to fill in your hole, mix in some of your native soil.
 
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