Thanks for the advice. I only use ST when I transplant, germinate or change the light cycle. ST is an excellent product to reduce stress on plants. I use 2 drops per gallon of oxygenated water. I've also switched to an organic starter potting soil. This is the first additive the plant has seen.
Oh trust me, I know this from past grows. The little guys will almost ALWAYS fool ya. It's like they have something at the end to prove. After 10 days though, I was sure it wasn't going to germ. It proved me wrong as is now the best looking one.I smoke from time to time, maybe 1-2 times a month. My girl smokes daily and a few times a day on the weekend days. Here is a pic of the couch
View attachment 1104423Might just be the best $50 EVER! That's a 53# Boxer and she only takes up one cushion
Serapis, don't discount the late poppers. Cameo was a late arrival when I sprouted her and a couple other seeds. She turned out to be the best of my bagseeders. Granted you are working with brand name genetics, so it may not make a huge difference but everyone roots for the come from behind victory
Hey dont get me wrong, it's great stuff, I know it. But too much of ANYTHING is bad. Like I said, Vitamin B1 is alot friendlier for frequent use and cheaper, check it out. Humic/Fulvic acid is good stuff too, humic for veg state and fulvic for flower. I try to stick to 1 additive at a time. If Im doin a grow with minimal additives I'll keep the B1 handy and use it when I water so theyre getting something besides plain water. Like I said tho, thats if Im stickin to a nutes only grow.
Pick your lights based on the area you will be using to flower. If you plan on using the full 6' of length in your closet then it will take several LED fixtures to cover the area. If you are only going to use 1/2 (3x3) you will need at least 2 of the 126w models, or a better choice would be a larger fixture 300w +. Best prices are generally at ebay but beware, many of the items they sell are junk. For flowering be sure all the diodes are at least 1w, if the fixture has more bulbs than watts then skip it. (They do work for veg/mother plants) Also make sure of the light bandwidth especially the red. Many inexpensive fixture use the 630nm bulb which is okay but the 660nm wave length is much more productive. A good quad band fixture will have both the 630 & 660. They best speced fixture I've found is from http://growitled.com/ (they sell a 6 band) they also have the best prices for larger wattage fixtures. I'm using their 350w model and it seems to be kicking ass. I want to get another one to pump even more watts on the girls but I haven't been able to convince the wife on spending another $800
No. I am at 24 hours. Today I propped the plant up by 8" and kept a close eye on it. It did fine for a couple of hours, and then I noticed barely, that the small serrated leaf edges were starting to turn up. I placed the plant back on the shelf and within an hours, the tips were normal again. That tells me these LED lights kick ass. It's going to take me a little bit to get used to them. I figure this girl will be ready for 12" height in a few days.
Careful with goldfish, they have high amonia in their waste, not likely to be good for your plants
In that case then damn those are some kick ass LED's! haha Were the back ones on it the whole time too or just the top?
Just the top....
Fish emit nitrates, which is good for plants. This accomplished by the nitrogen cycle, which turns fish waste into plant food. The trick is to get the plant:fish ratio correct. Also, the fish will eventually get big. In the first 6 weeks, you have to constantly monitor water for nitrate levels and do partial water changes as necessary. Eventually the system will dial itself in and all waste will become nitrogen. Several problems exist with this idea and I hope to iron them out. I think it would be awesome to have fish inside. This is just an idea at this stage, not a plan.
Good call, dude; I had a feelin' you'd be seein' it my way.
Awww, it's a moop! Sweet dog and couch combo; you pick 'em up in the same place?
Just kiddin'! 
I'm sure you'll be all right here on out. Just drop it down closer in graduated increments over time, and keep an eye on 'em. But don't get closer than a foot until you flower; I've found some really reliable LED studies, grows, and side-by-side comparisons which demonstrate conclusively that they emit more than enough light for even huge plants, and their foliar penetration is actually slightly better than HIDs. In fact, you'll prob'ly wanna keep 'em at least a foot above the whole time; their lightprint is improved, and their intensity diminshes much less than an HID at this range. More on this below.Looking at my pics above, does everyone think that the LED is high enough this time?
It better be, lol.
Yes, indeed, they do kick ass!
I'm not sure why you would still be on the fence after that exhaustive coverage given to LEDs. I hope you are not going to base your entire life's opinion of LEDs, based on my very first grow with them.
Wow, that is one informative fucking post!! +REP to ya sir. I spent more than a year reading up on LED lighting and what PAR was and angles and I even followed grows. I'm very familiar with the LEDGirl experiments and I believe she sells a very fine product. Have you ever seen her flower room? She must have hundreds of thousands of dollars in LED equipment in there. I didn't need the convincing, as I was convinced when I purchased my first light and was attempting to win a second one at auction.
Thanks for supplying the thread with actual numbers and case examples.
Wow, thanks very much for the homage, guys. Hooray for my very first +rep! It's nice to be appreciated for one's contributions.
I do my best to make helpful contributions, and the effort's fun and it pays off. I'm just so tired of the senseless LED bashing, and I figured some hard facts would be a nice feature to good threads like this to help dispense with some of the general uneasiness going around here. My wife thinks I should be a journalist, because I have immense inquisitive instincts and do a good job of sorting through data, retaining information, and compiling the most compelling facts in a punctual and persuasive manner. I don't mean to toot my own horn, but I composed the whole post minus the hard numbers from memory after giving those threads a good once over, and did the extra calculations to determine the percentages and ratios myself. I really hope to make a lasting and positive contribution to RIU, and I aim to please.
No problem, man; I'm more 'an happy to contribute and keep it alive and interesting in some small way. Just keep it comin'.
All right, man!UPDATE:
PROGRESS
I'm happy to announce that we are now in the VEG stage!!
The plant in the white square container is named Runt. She was the smallest until an unfortunate meeting with my new lights. I made the mistake of placing them about a foot from my 10 day old plants and nearly lost them all. Runt survived because she germed way late and was still in the flouro nursery.
Seeds:
Of the 5 moldy peat pellets, one seedling is doing well. One didn't have the strength to lift starter leaves from soil and one germed with NO starter leaves, just a stem. Today, I opened the two dormant pellets and recovered the seeds intact. At 6 bucks a seed and so many failures, I wasn't giving up on them.
I soaked both in distilled water with a drop of SuperThrive in their own cups. When they sank to the bottom, I poured seed and water into a cup full of organic starter. We'll see what happens. I am done using peat pellets. It seems so simple, yet for some reason too many problems occur.
I hope to have 3 seedlings going shortly. My plan is to start flowering the others in about 3 weeks while the seedlings veg under flouros. Once the flowering plants are half way through flower, I'll be introducing the new plants after clones have been taken.
You still doin' 24/0? How's that workin' out for ya? Runt's lookin' real healthy. The other two are laggin' behind a bit, but I'm sure they'll come around. Are the ones in the cups the only ones that survived getting vaporized by the LEDs? I sure hope things are more fortunate in the future.