Nothing dumber than a flat earther

Montuno said:

Other more time:
No. Colon knowed it was spherical. He dosent need to demo it cos Spanish Kings knowed too.
He only wanted to trade with China.




N please, Im not retard, but I have been rude with you. I ask you again for your pardon. But I repeat I never said here that the "flat Earth" was an USA idea. I never talked about that: you only need to read my post again to see it..

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I know you never said that. I replied to someone who said that, and you replied to my comment asking if I knew how to read... So...

Montuno said:

Other more time:
No. Colon knowed it was spherical. He dosent need to demo it cos Spanish Kings knowed too.
He only wanted to trade with China.


N please, Im not retard, but I have been rude with you. I ask you again for your pardon. But is like you dont want to read me...
Btw I repeat I never said here that the "flat Earth" was an USA idea. I never talked about that: you only need to read my post again to see it..

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I'll say it one last time... WE AGREE

I get that the majority of those deluded to believe the Flat Earth theory are gullible and easily exploited but man...some of y'all sure do throw the word "retard" and "mentally handicapped" around a lot.

Pretty sure its apparent to anyone reading how batshit crazy they are.

*steps off soapbox*

Mr. So low dough low said:

I'll say it one last time... WE AGREE

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No, my friend:

Mr. So low dough low said:

Lol, the idea of a flat Earth originated way before the USA was even a country... Isn't that why they say Columbus sailed to America? To prove to those idiots the Earth is not flat

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N I reply again (other more time) to your (remarked by me) cuestión:

No. Isent why Colon sailed to China cos everybody with same culture in his times knowed that the Earth was spherical thanks to Erastotenes. He only wanted to trade with China travellin to the West, before that the Portugueses will be able to do it by the East route.
Colon dosent need to demo anything to nobady cos Eratostenes done it centuries before...

Hope now you understand me.

Best wishes to everybody here.

Montuno said:

Oh, my god!!!

Magallanes was borned Portugueses n later he was nationalited Spanish. Spain was who organized n payed everything against Portugal, btw, cos they wanted to arrives to China before to Portugal. Portugal hates Magallanes by this historical fact. Magallanes was an stupid in Phillippines n he died cos he didint follow the El Cano advices. El Cano did the more difficult part of the trip cos he was now far away from Spanish waters, just inna the loosed Portuguese influence area, without the ships n víveres that Magallanes loose

The fact you can think that Magallanes were Brazilian talks about what you have been teached.
But probably were the Russians who theach it to you, am I right?

Salud.

PD: Y Viva tambien Portugal!!!!

...y el Fado...

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are you aware of the historical figures of other countries, beyond the few facts they have room to cram into text books? i read, and i remember what i read, it's just apparently different than what they teach you.
but can you answer a few questions without resorting to google or wiki?
you know who henry hudson is? how about john wesley powell? w.e.b. dubois? thomas paine? elizabeth cady stanton?
jane addams? edith wharton? william "boss" tweed? Fredrick law olmsted? thomas nast?

my point is, it's a big world, with a lot of people in it, just because i don't know a few things about one place doesn't mean i'm ignorant, or that the American education system is faulty (although i will admit it is faulty, but not in presenting information).
how can everyone learn everything about everything? they can't. there simply isn't time in a lifetime to learn everything about most single subjects, let alone multiple subjects. maybe you shouldn't be quite so critical of a place you've never been to, and haven't experienced for yourself.

Roger A. Shrubber said:

are you aware of the historical figures of other countries, beyond the few facts they have room to cram into text books? i read, and i remember what i read, it's just apparently different than what they teach you.

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Ok. Teach me, please. I hear you:
What Nation organized n payed the Magallanes/El Cano trip? Under what flag they sailed? From what nation they started the trip n in what nation they finished? Why the always avoid to touch any Portuguese port?

You can search in wikipedia if you wanted. Why not?

What makes a man an ignorant isent what he dosent knows...but what he dosent want to learn

spain, spain, spain, and spain

portugal had a treaty with spain at the time, but magellan was still considered a traitor to portugal

I think perhaps I should just stick to the grow room from now on lol

Mr. So low dough low said:

My whole point in the first place was that he knew it was spherical!! That is why I asked you that!

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Again: no , your cuestión wasent : "Does Colon knowed it?."
It was:
"Wasent it cos Colon done his trip, to demo it?"

Again:

Mr. So low dough low said:

... Isn't that why they say Columbus sailed to America? To prove to those idiots the Earth is not flat

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The answer one more time: No.

there's very little i don't want to learn. what you do with what you learn is what's important. storing information and never using it till you're playing bar trivia isn't making you more intelligent. use the things you learn in life, remember lessons that apply to your present situation, remember people reactions to things you say and do, and things they see others say and do.
and i'm a pretty typical american, really. we all get taught basic facts about other places that gloss over the deeper stories. it's up to us to learn those deeper facts. just realize there's not enough hours in the day to learn everything about everything

Montuno said:

No, my friend:



N I reply again (other more time) to your (remarked by me) cuestión:

No. Isent why Colon sailed to China cos everybody with same culture in his times knowed that the Earth was spherical thanks to Erastotenes. He only wanted to trade with China travellin to the West, before that the Portugueses will be able to do it by the East route.
Colon dosent need to demo anything to nobady cos Eratostenes done it centuries before...

Hope now you understand me.

Best wishes to everybody here.

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You're missing the point. I know he didn't set out for America... He didn't even know it existed. But on his way to Asia via the West(because he knew the Earth was a sphere) he stumbled upon America. At least that is what our dumb American schools taught me...

Roger A. Shrubber said:

there's very little i don't want to learn. what you do with what you learn is what's important. storing information and never using it till you're playing bar trivia isn't making you more intelligent. use the things you learn in life, remember lessons that apply to your present situation, remember people reactions to things you say and do, and things they see others say and do.
and i'm a pretty typical american, really. we all get taught basic facts about other places that gloss over the deeper stories. it's up to us to learn those deeper facts. just realize there's not enough hours in the day to learn everything about everything

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Wise words...

Montuno said:

Again: no , your cuestión wasent : "Does Colon knowed it?."
It was:
"Wasent it cos Colon done his trip, to demo it?"

Again:

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Sorry buddy, I'm done here. The language barrier obviously makes it very difficult to converse with you. You argue points we agree on, and completely misunderstand me. I wonder how many of the world's problems could be solved if we all just spoke the same language? hahaha

Mr. So low dough low said:

So you are saying Columbus thought the Earth was FLAT?

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There were globes in 1492.

Roger, u r good people. Love your post!

Roger A. Shrubber said:

there's very little i don't want to learn. what you do with what you learn is what's important. storing information and never using it till you're playing bar trivia isn't making you more intelligent. use the things you learn in life, remember lessons that apply to your present situation, remember people reactions to things you say and do, and things they see others say and do.

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Totally agree with you: Im fact Im not an very intelligent person, btw.

But I never have talked about intelligence here, remember.
I only talks about the ignorance n the desire to learn.
A person can be not so much intelligent as me but he can wanted a lot to learn more. N viceverse: a very intelligent person can be an ignorant than dosent want to learn anything...
Intelligence is like the personal beuty: you can have the "genetical luck" of have it, or not (like me).

N of course, the "emotional inteligence" is intelligence too.

doniawon said:

There were globes in 1492.

Roger, u r good people. Love your post!

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Awesome! I was just asking what that guy believed... It was hard to understand him...

Mr. So low dough low said:

Sorry buddy, I'm done here. The language barrier obviously makes it very difficult to converse with you. You argue points we agree on, and completely misunderstand me. I wonder how many of the world's problems could be solved if we all just spoke the same language? hahaha

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I'm just only (again and again) answering your question:
"Did not Colon make his trip to prove that the Earth was spherical?"
My answer:
"No. Colon never wanted to prove anything that was already proven, he just only wanted to trade with China"

Montuno said:

I'm just only (again and again) answering your question:
"Did not Colon make his trip to prove that the Earth was spherical?"
My answer:
"No. Colon never wanted to prove anything that was already proven, he just only wanted to trade with China"

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Ok, yes you're right... I was wrong. I guess he didn't specifically set out to prove that. That was never my original point tho. I don't know why you chose to focus on that... The only point I originally set out to make in this thread was that the idea of a flat Earth did not originate in America....

Roger A. Shrubber said:

but can you answer a few questions without resorting to google or wiki?
you know who henry hudson is? how about john wesley powell? w.e.b. dubois? thomas paine? elizabeth cady stanton?
jane addams? edith wharton? william "boss" tweed? Fredrick law olmsted? thomas nast?

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I must say you I only really knows the 3 first persons. I must look in Google all the rest, as you sais, to know anything about them.

But friend, at least the 3 first persons that I only really knows havent nothin' in común whith the discovery of the Earth spherite... Or am I wrong?

Btw, thanx you n everybody that are doing the heavy efort or heavy work, of try to understand my broken English in order to argue with me. Thanx a lot. Im learnin "real" English from you too, so at least your effort isent for nothing...

Salud!

Montuno said:

I must say you I only really knows the 3 first persons. I must look in Google all the rest, as you sais, to know anything about them.
I think I heard the name of Thomas Paine for sure, but I really dont know (or cant remember now) anything about him.

But friend, at least the 3 first persons that I only really knowed havent nothin' in común whith the discovery of the Earth spherite... Or am I wrong?

Btw, thanx you n everybody that are doing the heavy efort or heavy work, of try to understand my broken English in order to argue with me. Thanx a lot. Im learnin "real" English from you too, so at least your effort isent for nothing...

Salud!

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Have a good day, buddy. Sorry I called you a retard earlier. I hope you know in the heat of the argument these words mean nothing. Considering your difficulty with English, it was a frustrating argument, to say the least. No hard feelings...