Now Democrats Call To Delay Obamacare.

beenthere

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Amid the disastrous roll out failure, several democrat senators are calling on the administration to delay the health care law's individual mandate, joining their Republican colleagues.

Looks like the democrats have mud all over their face, they could have avoided the government shutdown all along if they would have signed the bill written by the House in the first place.
 

Wilksey

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This goat fuck of a program is going to be one of THE biggest fuck ups our congressional clowns have ever come up with.
 

Rrog

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I love it. Saves me major $$.

I have no love for insurance companies, Big Pharma, or Hospitals. These industries create god-like wealth at the distinct expense of the small guy. I'm a small guy
 

see4

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Insurance rates have consistently gone down in Massachusetts over the past 12 years. Romneycare.

#justsayin
 

Rrog

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RomneyCare was the inspiration

EDIT: I just casually dropped in here. Not looking to stir anything. Peace!:peace:
 

jjoe75

Active Member
That is the bitch about this. Because a black man put it into action Republicans dont want it. Even though it is essentially a Republican plant from 15 yrs ago. Watch bill mahr a little bit and take a break from fox news if you want a little bit of truth.
 

ginwilly

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I love it. Saves me major $$.

I have no love for insurance companies, Big Pharma, or Hospitals. These industries create god-like wealth at the distinct expense of the small guy. I'm a small guy
Amen brother. It's a shame we had a chance, a will, and the fortitude to actually reform the system and come up with the PPACA that only further entrenches the trinity.
 

ginwilly

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That is the bitch about this. Because a black man put it into action Republicans dont want it. Even though it is essentially a Republican plant from 15 yrs ago. Watch bill mahr a little bit and take a break from fox news if you want a little bit of truth.
The individual mandate was an idea by a couple guys who worked for a conservative think tank and supported by a handful of republicans as an alternative to Hillarycare. It was at a time when the pubs controlled the house and senate but never brought it to vote because the majority were against it, especially the democrats, there was ZERO democratic support for it at the time.

Watch Bill Mahr for entertainment, not truth. He also told me GM payed back their loans when they had only paid back 7B after borrowing 80 and were given a 3 year tax grace period where they saved... you guessed it! 7B dollars. He can be a funny dude, but honesty is not his strong suit.
 

see4

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Amid the disastrous roll out failure, several democrat senators are calling on the administration to delay the health care law's individual mandate, joining their Republican colleagues.

Looks like the democrats have mud all over their face, they could have avoided the government shutdown all along if they would have signed the bill written by the House in the first place.
This goat fuck of a program is going to be one of THE biggest fuck ups our congressional clowns have ever come up with.
1 in 7 patients in Massachusetts is misdiagnosed and given the wrong treatment.


http://www.wbur.org/2012/06/12/quality-of-care
This is what you look like from outside the bubble.......
[video=youtube;AEOpX8tmiUI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEOpX8tmiUI[/video]
 

UncleBuck

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This is what you look like from outside the bubble.......
[video=youtube;AEOpX8tmiUI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEOpX8tmiUI[/video]
it was especially watching all the righties in the bubble last year around this time, talking about the liberal media putting out skewed polls.

then reality came crashing down.
 

see4

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The individual mandate was an idea by a couple guys who worked for a conservative think tank and supported by a handful of republicans as an alternative to Hillarycare. It was at a time when the pubs controlled the house and senate but never brought it to vote because the majority were against it, especially the democrats, there was ZERO democratic support for it at the time.

Watch Bill Mahr for entertainment, not truth. He also told me GM payed back their loans when they had only paid back 7B after borrowing 80 and were given a 3 year tax grace period where they saved... you guessed it! 7B dollars. He can be a funny dude, but honesty is not his strong suit.
No. Where did you get your facts bro?

Over the years, GM, desperate to rid itself of government oversight, has paid back some of the funds the taxpayers advanced—about $28.7 billion of the $49.5 billion total. But by last year the situation had hardened. GM is a publicly held company. The government had converted its loans into a fixed number of shares of the company. Until today, that total stood at 500 million. In order for the taxpayers to be made whole, GM’s stock would have to rise to the 40s and hold that price for quite a while. That’s not going to happen any time soon.

So with the company’s stock mired in the 20s, the government essentially decided it would take a loss on the company. After this sale, the government will still be out $15.3 billion on its investment in GM, but its remaining shares are worth $8.4 billion at current market prices. So if GM holds its value over the coming months while the government sells its shares, the taxpayers will lose about $7 billion.


The above quote are the facts. The shit that you just came up with is Fox Noise bullshit. And to your point of 3 year tax grace period... again, no, not quite accurate. I can quote this as well... but I want you to do some research on your own. Something you clearly do NOT do.
 

heckler73

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So how many pages will this thread go before being turned into a shit-pile of nonsense over melanin content in humans?
3, maybe 4?
 

ginwilly

Well-Known Member
No. Where did you get your facts bro?

Over the years, GM, desperate to rid itself of government oversight, has paid back some of the funds the taxpayers advanced—about $28.7 billion of the $49.5 billion total. But by last year the situation had hardened. GM is a publicly held company. The government had converted its loans into a fixed number of shares of the company. Until today, that total stood at 500 million. In order for the taxpayers to be made whole, GM’s stock would have to rise to the 40s and hold that price for quite a while. That’s not going to happen any time soon.

So with the company’s stock mired in the 20s, the government essentially decided it would take a loss on the company. After this sale, the government will still be out $15.3 billion on its investment in GM, but its remaining shares are worth $8.4 billion at current market prices. So if GM holds its value over the coming months while the government sells its shares, the taxpayers will lose about $7 billion.


The above quote are the facts. The shit that you just came up with is Fox Noise bullshit. And to your point of 3 year tax grace period... again, no, not quite accurate. I can quote this as well... but I want you to do some research on your own. Something you clearly do NOT do.
When Mahr said that it was in response to GM's ads saying they had paid back the loans in full. This is what we are talking about, what Mahr said, when he said it. It was a 6.7B loan they paid back in the name of "New GM".

Also, are you saying GM paid taxes like any other company? I'd quote this for you, but i want you do some research on your own.
 

UncleBuck

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"if you really want to stick it to the rich, do a consumption tax!" - ginwilly, our generation's most brilliant economist.
 
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