Now Democrats Call To Delay Obamacare.

UncleBuck said:
"if you really want to stick it to the rich, do a consumption tax!" - ginwilly, our generation's most brilliant economist.
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And make corporate rates double, you left that part out. I don't support this, I was just giving you a way to eat the rich and stop the bs deductions only the rich get away with.

I support a consumption tax over an income tax for reasons beyond just fiscal, it's also a moral issue with me. I also support overhauling corporate laws.

A rich guy can take his buddies to vegas, buy hookers and blow, and write it off as corporate expenses. My way does away with this. Not sure you understand this, but if you ask nice I'll try to explain best I can.
 
Fungus Gnat said:
If republicans want to repeal obamacare why do they use its projected savings in their budgets?
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projected savings from Obamacare? elaborate please

And if it magically is a net positive despite all CBO projections, are the pubs supposed to pretend it ISN'T a law just because they are against it?
 
Typical of all progs, when there's a shot at getting something for free at the expense of others, their fists are pumping and lips are flapping.
 
Fungus Gnat said:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/22/chris-van-hollen-obamacare_n_3971971.html
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OK, that's really shitty, I'm on your side on this one. Savings is a misrepresentation though, it's revenue from all of the taxes in the bill plus the assumption that the 700B in medicare cuts will be real at a time when the largest segment of our population is hitting that age. Still pretty shitty politics though.

If only they had passed a budget through congress that didn't fund Obamacare... then you would claim them to be righteous I bet.
 
When the Republicans wanted to delay the individual mandate they were racist terrorist thugs. Now suddenly the Democrats want to do it for the children...

LOL!!! Politics as usual...
 
beenthere said:
Typical of all progs, when there's a shot at getting something for free at the expense of others, their fists are pumping and lips are flapping.
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Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) — so fond of accusing the Obama administration of foisting socialism on an unwilling America — has apparently been the recipient of about a quarter of million bucks in government handouts
 
beenthere said:
Typical of all progs, when there's a shot at getting something for free at the expense of others, their fists are pumping and lips are flapping.
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The article made its case with maps showing the distribution of dependency, but you get the same story from a more formal comparison. Aaron Carroll of Indiana University tells us that in 2010, residents of the 10 states Gallup ranks as “most conservative” received 21.2 percent of their income in government transfers, while the number for the 10 most liberal states was only 17.1 percent.
 
ginwilly said:
When Mahr said that it was in response to GM's ads saying they had paid back the loans in full. This is what we are talking about, what Mahr said, when he said it. It was a 6.7B loan they paid back in the name of "New GM".

Also, are you saying GM paid taxes like any other company? I'd quote this for you, but i want you do some research on your own.
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So far you have provided us with anecdotal evidence at best. I've given you a quote and supported facts. You have provided nothing. Once you provide something that sounds like it has "truthiness" to it, maybe I will begin to listen. Otherwise you are wasting hot air.

Yes, I am saying GM pays taxes like GE does and Intel does and IBM does and Monsantos does. All international corporations. GM got a few breaks during the bail out, like Ford and Chrysler. But no longer hold true. Those breaks are long over, now that people are back to work there.

But their bailouts pale in comparison to the jobs program the government "jammed down our throats", in the name of defense. Our military budget went from 402B in 2001 to over 660B in 2008. And if you try to explain that away with, "It was the wars stupid!", Im going to slap you in the face with my dick.

But listen man, in the end, I will never be able to argue with stupid. We are both wasting our time. You wont listen to me, and I wont listen to you. As the old adage goes, arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics, even if you win, you're still retarded.
 
NLXSK1 said:
When the Republicans wanted to delay the individual mandate they were racist terrorist thugs. Now suddenly the Democrats want to do it for the children...

LOL!!! Politics as usual...
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When Romney initiated RomneyCare in Massachusetts, Republicans called him the next greatest leader. When Obama initiated the same plan, he was a Marxist Socialist Commie Bastard.

Which is it?
 
ChesusRice said:
The article made its case with maps showing the distribution of dependency, but you get the same story from a more formal comparison. Aaron Carroll of Indiana University tells us that in 2010, residents of the 10 states Gallup ranks as “most conservative” received 21.2 percent of their income in government transfers, while the number for the 10 most liberal states was only 17.1 percent.
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California has more people on welfare programs than Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Arkansas, North Carolina and South Carolina combined, ya mental midget.

Why don't you run off and go give UncleBuck some more "likes"
 
beenthere said:
California has more people on welfare programs than Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Arkansas, North Carolina and South Carolina combined, ya mental midget.

Why don't you run off and go give UncleBuck some more "likes"
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Citation please.
 
Finally, an easy question. He's a Marxist Socialist Commie Bastard, who just happens to be 1/2 black, 1/2 white.
 
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