'ObamaCare' Saved My Life -- a Maxim Cover Girl Shares Her Story

cyanarnofsky

cyanarnofsky

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Don't really care what "bracket" we are forced into. Main point remains the same, why should I be forced to pay for something I don't use. As well the amount of increase is standard throughout all areas not just one level of income and that rate hike is far beyond "standard". Your right the penalty is high on purpose...because they'd rather have you on a monthly fee than a one time opt out....my cellphone provider does the same thing "Cancelation Fees" LOL (that's just good business there, you'll always make more in small amounts over a long period of time than a lump sum...can learn that from the lottery)......Oh and by the way since I over work myself to pay for school rather than take loans I am at 30k alright well that puts me at $700 penalty, nice so its even more than I was thinking....
 
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ChesusRice

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cyanarnofsky said:
Don't really care what "bracket" we are forced into. Main point remains the same, why should I be forced to pay for something I don't use. As well the amount of increase is standard throughout all areas not just one level of income and that rate hike is far beyond "standard". Your right the penalty is high on purpose...because they'd rather you pay them more per month by being on healthcare than pay a one time fee and not be....my cellphone provider does the same thing "Cancelation Fees" LOL
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You claim you work part time
you claim you make 30k a year

What do you do part time that you make 30k a year?
and if you make 30k a year why dont you have healthcare insurance?

I had healthcare insurance making less than that before
 
nitro harley

nitro harley

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schuylaar said:
negative nitro..prior to the ACA, all insurance companies utilized pre-existing condition clauses..you are in the oregon state pool which HAD to accept you..premiums commensurate to high risk pooling as well.
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All I know is that everyone could get Ins through the oregon health plan with pre existing conditions like me and it has been that way for a very long time..You call it a pool I call Ins, because that is what it is..Even buck or some other sick person can get it..
 
cyanarnofsky

cyanarnofsky

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My company is a small business we don't have an benefit options, so no healthcare. I work as a contracted large format printer and CNC repair specialist. My hourly is charged out at $150 to $200 an hour to rebuild these machines on site (overtime and unexpected repairs past initial issues can take my overtime way above that). This is standard as Roland outsources their techs at $150 an hr, above that is when travel is needed out of state. I am sure I could figure it out and budget it in and I will be fine but the sour taste still remains that if I don't want to sign up I MUST pay a "penalty", one of the ways I have made it so well through school without debt is cutting things I don't use or really need, like healthcare, its my body if it breaks kind of my fault and responsibility. Still though when we start scrutinizing my details aren't we getting a bit far from the actual subject at hand. If we really want to argue we can find holes in anything and a way to make it work but the fact remains why should I be forced to make it work. Healthcare should be an option, not demanded. Rather pointless to argue if I have the money or not LOL when my entire point is that I shouldn't have to give that money up because I opt out....has nothing to do with part time, full time, 30k, 90k. I could care less whether someone on the internet believes me LOL my point remains with or without me as I can introduce you to several thousand college students who stood up to say this is bullshit at my campus. :)....its obviously affecting more than just me.
 
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schuylaar

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cyanarnofsky said:
Don't really care what "bracket" we are forced into. Main point remains the same, why should I be forced to pay for something I don't use. As well the amount of increase is standard throughout all areas not just one level of income and that rate hike is far beyond "standard". Your right the penalty is high on purpose...because they'd rather have you on a monthly fee than a one time opt out....my cellphone provider does the same thing "Cancelation Fees" LOL (that's just good business there, you'll always make more in small amounts over a long period of time than a lump sum...can learn that from the lottery)......Oh and by the way since I over work myself to pay for school rather than take loans I am at 30k alright well that puts me at $700 penalty, nice so its even more than I was thinking....
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there is a high deductible, low cost catastrophe policy if you are 30<..i think its less than 100$, but don't know for certain since i haven't seen ACA pricing yet.

EDIT: what it all comes down to is:

#1. being accountable should you fall terminally ill and rack up money on the system that you can never pay back..
 
echelon1k1

echelon1k1

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ChesusRice said:
You claim you work part time
you claim you make 30k a year

What do you do part time that you make 30k a year?
and if you make 30k a year why dont you have healthcare insurance?

I had healthcare insurance making less than that before
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30K a year part time, easy.... Not that you could actually live off that... :dunce:
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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ChesusRice said:
if you are that poor you qualify for subsidys probably even free.
Really how much does your part time job pay?
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Subsidies to pay for your coverage does not mean it pays for your health care. I think that's where the disconnect is for the supporters of O'care. The "better" O'care exchange plans have a mean deductible of around 6400 a year while the cheap plan is over 10k. This means you expect all of those people who abuse the ER to suddenly pay for their ER visit. I'm not sure why people have believed this. Maybe you can shed some light on this thought process? How are people who were too poor to afford insurance going to afford 10k for repeated ER visits? I admit for catastrophic incidents, having to only pay 10k is pretty sweet, but your sides claim was this bill will reduce costs because people will no longer use the ER as a clinic. Magic wands?
 
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ChesusRice

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cyanarnofsky said:
My company is a small business we don't have an benefit options, so no healthcare. I work as a contracted large format printer and CNC repair specialist. My hourly is charged out at $150 to $200 an hour to rebuild these machines on site (overtime and unexpected repairs past initial issues can take my overtime way above that). This is standard as Roland outsources their techs at $150 an hr, above that is when travel is needed out of state. I am sure I could figure it out and budget it in and I will be fine but the sour taste still remains that if I don't want to sign up I MUST pay a "penalty", one of the ways I have made it so well through school without debt is cutting things I don't use or really need, like healthcare, its my body if it breaks kind of my fault and responsibility. Still though when we start scrutinizing my details aren't we getting a bit far from the actual subject at hand. If we really want to argue we can find holes in anything and a way to make it work but the fact remains why should I be forced to make it work. Healthcare should be an option, not demanded. Rather pointless to argue if I have the money or not LOL when my entire point is that I shouldn't have to give that money up because I opt out....has nothing to do with part time, full time, 30k, 90k. I could care less whether someone on the internet believes me LOL my point remains with or without me as I can introduce you to several thousand college students who stood up to say this is bullshit at my campus. :)....its obviously affecting more than just me.
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I shouldnt have to pay increased health insurance premiums when the electrician told you the power was locked out and it wasnt and you end up at the ER

My point is if you are a responsible person you will seek to be covered

Are you a responsible person?
 
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ChesusRice

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See the funny thing is
When your health emergency comes up

You wont excercise your Option to DIE

Then i have to pay for your medical treatment anyways in one form or another
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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ChesusRice said:
See the funny thing is
When your health emergency comes up

You wont excercise your Option to DIE

Then i have to pay for your medical treatment anyways in one form or another
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Was your sides argument for the bill was that it would curtail costs by those ER "clinic" visits be covered or not? You guys weren't arguing for catastrophic emergencies, you were talking about the abuse of using ERs as a clinic and this bill would put an end to that. How?
 
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ChesusRice

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ginwilly said:
Was your sides argument for the bill was that it would curtail costs by those ER "clinic" visits be covered or not? You guys weren't arguing for catastrophic emergencies, you were talking about the abuse of using ERs as a clinic and this bill would put an end to that. How?
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If you have insurance you would see a doctor
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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ChesusRice said:
If you have insurance you would see a doctor
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This part I really don't know because I'm fortunate enough to not need the exchanges so I'll ask, what's the deductible for doctor's visits? Are they free? If so I can see this working, but if you still have to meet a deductible, that means the ER is still the economic choice.
 
chewberto

chewberto

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justanotherbozo said:
...considering how often you take cheap shots at people i figured i'd point out to you what a fool you show yourself to be when you chastise another and you're just too stoopid to use the correct word, ...i guess if it sounds similar it's good enough for an ignorant fuck like you.

...in any event i am certain you meant 'reading comprehension' not 'reading compensation'.

...it is far better to keep your mouth shut and let folks THINK you are a fool rather than opening your mouth and removing all doubt.

bozo
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I think that was a joke!
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Winter Woman said:
UB you are losing it. The article was written in 2010.
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right around the time high risk pools for those with pre-existing conditions were established.

[h=3]Effective June 21, 2010[edit][/h]
  • Adults with existing conditions became eligible to join a temporary high-risk pool, which will be superseded by the health care exchange in 2014.[SUP][6][/SUP][SUP][20][/SUP]


derp dee der.

next time, i suggest keeping your mouth shut instead of opening it to remove all doubt.

you go menopausal about this law on the daily but as you just demonstrated, you don't even know the first thing about it.

that is sad and pathetic in all sorts of ways.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
UncleBuck said:
right around the time high risk pools for those with pre-existing conditions were established.

Effective June 21, 2010[edit]


  • Adults with existing conditions became eligible to join a temporary high-risk pool, which will be superseded by the health care exchange in 2014.[SUP][6][/SUP][SUP][20][/SUP]


derp dee der.

next time, i suggest keeping your mouth shut instead of opening it to remove all doubt.

you go menopausal about this law on the daily but as you just demonstrated, you don't even know the first thing about it.

that is sad and pathetic in all sorts of ways.
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But isn't this the sort of equivalency argument for which you are now skewering tokeprep?
mote/beam
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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cannabineer said:
But isn't this the sort of equivalency argument for which you are now skewering tokeprep?
mote/beam
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i don't see the equivalency, please elaborate.

i am skewering winter"woman" because she exposed herself as not knowing the first thing that was in the PPACA, despite her constant hysterics and catastrophizing.

i am skewering tokeprep because he told some story about why he was rejected that turned out not to be fact, but rather assumption.

i don't see much related between those separate roasts.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
UncleBuck said:
i don't see the equivalency, please elaborate.

i am skewering winter"woman" because she exposed herself as not knowing the first thing that was in the PPACA, despite her constant hysterics and catastrophizing.

i am skewering tokeprep because he told some story about why he was rejected that turned out not to be fact, but rather assumption.

i don't see much related between those separate roasts.
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The "temporary high-risk pool" isn't ObamaCare by any definition. Thus the thread title is exposed as a lie imo.
Also, Tokeprep made clear that the "reserved" admission criteria fell below her achieved scores. She need not show the precise scores of her putative replacement to make her story work.

So in order to skewer her, you must be the sort of strict that would wipe you out of your own "derp dee der" post.

Thus I maintain: mote/beam. My opinion.
 
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tokeprep

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cannabineer said:
The "temporary high-risk pool" isn't ObamaCare by any definition. Thus the thread title is exposed as a lie imo.
Also, Tokeprep made clear that the "reserved" admission criteria fell below her achieved scores. She need not show the precise scores of her putative replacement to make her story work.

So in order to skewer her, you must be the sort of strict that would wipe you out of your own "derp dee der" post.

Thus I maintain: mote/beam. My opinion.
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I'm not a girl.
 
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