Palin faking birth of her new baby

ViRedd

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The latest nationwide survey, begun Friday afternoon after the McCain announcement of Palin as running mate and completed mid-afternoon today, shows McCain/Palin at 47%, compared to 45% support for Obama/Biden.
 

Johnnyorganic

Well-Known Member
This occurred to me when I heard the news about the Pregnancy of Bristol Palin, but it has taken me a few hours to formulate an opinion. A few hours have passed and additional details have emerged. I don't know if anyone has mentioned it elsewhere.

It is possible this was all a set-up by McCain campaign in order blunt the news of the teen pregnancy?

Is it possible this fake-pregnancy hoax was leaked just hours before the REAL story? The reaction from the Left was predictably joyous and vicious. So vicious that when the real news emerged, I said to myself: "That's a relief. Only a teen pregnancy. Happens all the time."

If true, the old man took the Leftists to school. Again.

And this campaign is just getting started.
 

medicineman

New Member
This occurred to me when I heard the news about the Pregnancy of Bristol Palin, but it has taken me a few hours to formulate an opinion. A few hours have passed and additional details have emerged. I don't know if anyone has mentioned it elsewhere.

It is possible this was all a set-up by McCain campaign in order blunt the news of the teen pregnancy?

Is it possible this fake-pregnancy hoax was leaked just hours before the REAL story? The reaction from the Left was predictably joyous and vicious. So vicious that when the real news emerged, I said to myself: "That's a relief. Only a teen pregnancy. Happens all the time."

If true, the old man took the Leftists to school. Again.

And this campaign is just getting started.
If True??????????? seems like it is you whom is clutching at straws. Left-right, who really gives a fuck. It's about rich VS poor, always has been, always will be.
 

ccodiane

New Member
I am speculating. Does it not seem fishy to you?

Again, IF TRUE, this campaign will be worth watching.
This is the original source of the rumors, I've heard......:blsmoke:

Daily Kos: State of the Nation

Sarah Palin Is NOT The Mother [Photos+Video]

by ArcXIX

Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 01:12:31 PM PDT

Excerpt-
Well, Sarah, I'm calling you a liar. And not even a good one. Trig Paxson Van Palin is not your son. He is your grandson. The sooner you come forward with this revelation to the public, the better.
 

medicineman

New Member
I am speculating. Does it not seem fishy to you?

Again, IF TRUE, this campaign will be worth watching.

Can't resist a dig, can you? Sad and silly person.

LOL!
Dig, If digs were measured, you'd be a giant earth mover. Talk about hypocracy. Funny how when things aren't going your way, you revert to personal attacks. "Sad and silly person".
 

Johnnyorganic

Well-Known Member
Dig, If digs were measured, you'd be a giant earth mover. Talk about hypocracy. Funny how when things aren't going your way, you revert to personal attacks. "Sad and silly person".
You speak of yourself. Things were going pretty good for me then, just as they are now. Your unprovoked passive/aggressive cheap shots only betray desperation on your part.

I respond in kind to your inane attempts at insult, but I am the hypocrite? LOL! That's funny. Not ha ha funny. Sad funny.

Mine was a response to your statement, Professor. Remember this?
seems like it is you whom is clutching at straws.
Don't presume to lecture me on internet etiquette. You don't have a leg to stand on.
 

FLoJo

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first of all Johnny way to go giving me a negative rep because of my beliefs telling me to get a clue? you my friend need to get a clue because you are too stubborn to see both sides of the coin and need to learn how to read... NEVER once have i said that i support mccain or obama so quit trying to categorize me because i will not fit in your narrow frame of mind. i have been trying to look at both sides of the coin while you continue to try to spin the argument in your favor ignoring what others, and myself have said..

And your argument is blunted by the fact that you ignore Equal Protection as guaranteed under the Constitution. A woman has the right to become VP regardless of her status as a mother. No buts. No exceptions. These rights apply to all of us or none of us.
show me where i once said that she doesnt have the right to run as vp? numerous times you have said i dont think she should be a vp because she is a mother... I NEVER once said that... over and over i have said how this will reflect on her character and i gave you my opinion that as a mother of five being a vp will take too much of her time to be a good mother... being a vp is much different than being a governor..

and you keep trying to compare apples to oranges... if you think that being a politician and working a 9-5 is the same thing than i feel sorry for your ignorance just like i said before it requires a COMPLETELY different set of skills and requirements. if you cannot see this point than i might as well be talking to a brick wall because it will have more sense than you.

like it or not i have looked at both sides of the argument and since the beginning have debated this hypothetically where as you continually try to accuse me of quick to believe it and trying to take down conservatives.. guess what I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT CONSERVATIVES quit trying to make this a left and right thing and put your spin on it.. this is about a womans CHARACTER and her MORALS and VALUES as a PERSON it has nothing to do with being left right up down or center. you need to PAY ATTENTION... you are the one that is so blunted that even if you found out that it was a lie you would make her out to be some hero and martyr like medicinemann said... are you fucking kidding me?? are you that much of a coward that you will let politicians lie and manipulate you for their own gain but still you will praise them as heros and gods??

now dont try to spin this and say that i am name calling and attacking you.. no i am putting my own view out there and questioning your VALUES and BELIEFS... because from what i can see not only are you reluctant to see both sides of the coin but you cannot even argue the topic at hand without trying to argue a completely irrelevant tangent.

NEWSFLASH JOHNNY democrats AND republicans lie to you... both have their interests at heart not yours. both get funded by the same corporations... if you want to pick sides and kiss-assthen so be it... be my guest but guess what either way THEY STILL WIN. they get what they want while you sit here and argue (not even effectively i might add) with your fellow man... why cant you look at it objectively.. what if someone in your family decieved you in order to make you think highly of them to get what they wanted.. then would you still think they are a hero?? if your neighbor conned you into thinking they were great people, if only to gain your respect in order to get favors out of you would you be pissed??

its called the laws of commitment and consistently.. you have bought piles of shit for so long that you cannot even begin to phathom that all of this shit you bought was a bad purchase. you will argue till the death that what you have been sold by these snake oil merchants is the real thing if only to protect yourself from admitting your own lack of fore sight.

you my freind are the one that needs to get a clue and learn to open your eyes.. every coin has two sides and every story has another version... if your going to buy into everything corporate media outlets sell you then i guess america really is headed for a pile of shit..

-rep to you johnny boy

FLo
 

Johnnyorganic

Well-Known Member
first of all Johnny way to go giving me a negative rep because of my beliefs telling me to get a clue? you my friend need to get a clue because you are too stubborn to see both sides of the coin and need to learn how to read... NEVER once have i said that i support mccain or obama so quit trying to categorize me because i will not fit in your narrow frame of mind. i have been trying to look at both sides of the coin while you continue to try to spin the argument in your favor ignoring what others, and myself have said..

show me where i once said that she doesnt have the right to run as vp? numerous times you have said i dont think she should be a vp because she is a mother... I NEVER once said that... over and over i have said how this will reflect on her character and i gave you my opinion that as a mother of five being a vp will take too much of her time to be a good mother... being a vp is much different than being a governor..

and you keep trying to compare apples to oranges... if you think that being a politician and working a 9-5 is the same thing than i feel sorry for your ignorance just like i said before it requires a COMPLETELY different set of skills and requirements. if you cannot see this point than i might as well be talking to a brick wall because it will have more sense than you.

like it or not i have looked at both sides of the argument and since the beginning have debated this hypothetically where as you continually try to accuse me of quick to believe it and trying to take down conservatives.. guess what I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT CONSERVATIVES quit trying to make this a left and right thing and put your spin on it.. this is about a womans CHARACTER and her MORALS and VALUES as a PERSON it has nothing to do with being left right up down or center. you need to PAY ATTENTION... you are the one that is so blunted that even if you found out that it was a lie you would make her out to be some hero and martyr like medicinemann said... are you fucking kidding me?? are you that much of a coward that you will let politicians lie and manipulate you for their own gain but still you will praise them as heros and gods??

now dont try to spin this and say that i am name calling and attacking you.. no i am putting my own view out there and questioning your VALUES and BELIEFS... because from what i can see not only are you reluctant to see both sides of the coin but you cannot even argue the topic at hand without trying to argue a completely irrelevant tangent.

NEWSFLASH JOHNNY democrats AND republicans lie to you... both have their interests at heart not yours. both get funded by the same corporations... if you want to pick sides and kiss-assthen so be it... be my guest but guess what either way THEY STILL WIN. they get what they want while you sit here and argue (not even effectively i might add) with your fellow man... why cant you look at it objectively.. what if someone in your family decieved you in order to make you think highly of them to get what they wanted.. then would you still think they are a hero?? if your neighbor conned you into thinking they were great people, if only to gain your respect in order to get favors out of you would you be pissed??

its called the laws of commitment and consistently.. you have bought piles of shit for so long that you cannot even begin to phathom that all of this shit you bought was a bad purchase. you will argue till the death that what you have been sold by these snake oil merchants is the real thing if only to protect yourself from admitting your own lack of fore sight.

you my freind are the one that needs to get a clue and learn to open your eyes.. every coin has two sides and every story has another version... if your going to buy into everything corporate media outlets sell you then i guess america really is headed for a pile of shit..

-rep to you johnny boy

FLo
What? No credit for putting my name on it?

It was your original insult I disapproved of and was responding to. The language in my -rep was clear. Deal with it.

Or you can keep whining. :fire:
 

FLoJo

Well-Known Member
sure ill give you credit for putting your name on it... not like i couldnt have figured it out anyways... and what insult are you referring to?

also just FYI im not whining by any stretch of the imagination.. i think you might want to re evaluate that statement. someone was whining about how the conservatives and precious palin was being attackted.you maybe

i am merely pointing out all of the flaws in your arguments, exposing your acusations and insinuations, and clearing up the spin that you have put on the discussion, as well as trying to open your eyes to your own ignorance.

calling it whining is just continuing the cycle of your commitment to consistency and fooling nobody but yourself.

FLo
 

natrone23

Well-Known Member
It is possible this was all a set-up by McCain campaign in order blunt the news of the teen pregnancy?

Is it possible this fake-pregnancy hoax was leaked just hours before the REAL story? The reaction from the Left was predictably joyous and vicious. So vicious that when the real news emerged, I said to myself: "That's a relief. Only a teen pregnancy. Happens all the time."

If true, the old man took the Leftists to school. Again.

And this campaign is just getting started.
Wow and you would applaud lying to the public to soften the reaction of the real story:clap:.................whatever it takes to "win" right
 

Johnnyorganic

Well-Known Member
Wow and you would applaud lying to the public to soften the reaction of the real story:clap:.................whatever it takes to "win" right
I brought it up because I thought the timing of the two releases was curious. And if true, masterful. I would have held the same opinion if Barry had thought it up.

You think the Democrats don't lie? NEWSFLASH: Politicians lie all the time.

According to FLoJo this is a forbidden topic. No tangents, even if germane to the thread.
get a clue and open your eyes.. learn to argue the topics not go in 50 million directions...
 

Johnnyorganic

Well-Known Member
sure ill give you credit for putting your name on it... not like i couldnt have figured it out anyways... and what insult are you referring to?

also just FYI im not whining by any stretch of the imagination.. i think you might want to re evaluate that statement. someone was whining about how the conservatives and precious palin was being attackted.you maybe

i am merely pointing out all of the flaws in your arguments, exposing your acusations and insinuations, and clearing up the spin that you have put on the discussion, as well as trying to open your eyes to your own ignorance.

calling it whining is just continuing the cycle of your commitment to consistency and fooling nobody but yourself.

FLo
You're whining alright.

 

Hayduke

Well-Known Member
One is not born a muslim or a christian, they are born free spirits and are only labled by idiots that think a newborn would know what he/she is. You can't be born a muslim, you can be born into a muslim family, but that doesn't make you a muslim. Religion is a choice one makes when they reach the age of reason, unless they are brainwashed, which happens, but still, you can't be born a muslim, period.
Amen Brotha! Religion is a beliefs system. The only thing you believe when you are born is it all of a sudden got very cold and bright!
 

misshestermoffitt

New Member
The daughter is pregnant now ( by one of Palin's aides) and in her second trimester. That means she is at least 4 months along. I don't think she could have a 5 month old baby and be at least 4 months pregnant. For that to be the case she would have had to have gotten re-pregnant before her first post pregnancy ovulation.

I don't know if Palin can help run the country when she can't keep her aide's pants on and her daughters legs closed.
 

Hayduke

Well-Known Member
If daddy is a Muslim, the children born to him are born Muslim.

Your denial of this fact is very telling. The Islamic world disagrees with your assessment, period.

The islamic world disagrees with alot. SOME actually believe if you kill a bunch of christians/jews/atheists/anyotheristorismotherthantheirism and you go to paradise where now you can be the pediphile phuck you always dreamed of!

Allah would be so proud!

I think I was "born" a lutheran or a methodist, I hope nobody ever holds this against me...actually who cares. it would really be silly to hold something like that against me:mrgreen:

Oh yeah, besides shes had a few to many bolling balls slide down the gutter, She is one hell of a sexy mama!
 

FLoJo

Well-Known Member
Wow! The left is desperate.

It would be a compelling story if true. Oprah worthy. A familiar story to many families who had a 'surprise' baby brother or sister. Unwed teen mothers have not always been acceptable in our society. This story would hearken back to those days. A time conservatives yearn for again. If true, it would be a testament to the sacrifices a mother would be willing to make for her children. It would also bear witness to the completeness of her conservative values.

If untrue: A lie from the left repeated in an attempt to discredit her.
this was your first post on the topic... already praising her could be lies before going off on your tangents to manipulate the situation and what i have been saying.. again show me where i said she was unfit to be the vp because she was a mother? show me where i said she didnt have the right to be a vp because she was a mother? you cant because i didnt, i strictly gave opinions about her character and what her character reflected as a polotician.. YOU johnny were the one to go off on all the tangents in an attemt to get away from the opinions and views being presented to you and to give yourself a false sense of valididty in your arguement... sorry bud.. maybe next time... i may be 21 but your not gonna pull that bullshit on me

FLoJo said:
NEWSFLASH JOHNNY democrats AND republicans lie to you..
glad your learning johnny... maybe you will start believing the shit that you type... in the mean time keep on giving me those negative reps

and as far as your whining comments johnny.. nice comeback... i expose your flawed logic, your lack or reasoning, and your immense ignorance and all you can say is im whining? come on now you can do better than that. why dont you not take the easy road out and try to actually formulate a defense instead of just giving me negative reps and being childish? this is a political discussion.. confront the situation dont run away... i want to hear your view but i dont want you to try and tell me what mine is.. its not to late you can redeem yourself and claw your way out from under that giant pile of shit you have bought. or maybe you can keep kissing republican ass.

FLo

p.s. and misshestermoffit very good point... and i completely agree with you. i always had my doubts about it but the gossip can always be very convincing... my point in this thread, that some people didnt pick up, was what this would say about her morals and character which would reflect on her ability to be trusted in making decisions that would be good for the 300 plus million people in this country.. not just the few thousand she governed. after all she has the possibilty of becoming president if mcsame kicks the bucket. i am in the same boat with you i dont think she is up to the task. she obviously was too busy speaking out about abstonance to teach her own children.

FLo
 
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