Palin faking birth of her new baby

ccodiane

New Member
this was your first post on the topic... already praising her could be lies before going off on your tangents to manipulate the situation and what i have been saying.. again show me where i said she was unfit to be the vp because she was a mother? show me where i said she didnt have the right to be a vp because she was a mother? you cant because i didnt, i strictly gave opinions about her character and what her character reflected as a polotician.. YOU johnny were the one to go off on all the tangents in an attemt to get away from the opinions and views being presented to you and to give yourself a false sense of valididty in your arguement... sorry bud.. maybe next time... i may be 21 but your not gonna pull that bullshit on me



glad your learning johnny... maybe you will start believing the shit that you type... in the mean time keep on giving me those negative reps

and as far as your whining comments johnny.. nice comeback... i expose your flawed logic, your lack or reasoning, and your immense ignorance and all you can say is im whining? come on now you can do better than that. why dont you not take the easy road out and try to actually formulate a defense instead of just giving me negative reps and being childish? this is a political discussion.. confront the situation dont run away... i want to hear your view but i dont want you to try and tell me what mine is.. its not to late you can redeem yourself and claw your way out from under that giant pile of shit you have bought. or maybe you can keep kissing republican ass.

FLo

p.s. and misshestermoffit very good point... and i completely agree with you. i always had my doubts about it but the gossip can always be very convincing... my point in this thread, that some people didnt pick up, was what this would say about her morals and character which would reflect on her ability to be trusted in making decisions that would be good for the 300 plus million people in this country.. not just the few thousand she governed. after all she has the possibilty of becoming president if mcsame kicks the bucket. i am in the same boat with you i dont think she is up to the task. she obviously was too busy speaking out about abstonance to teach her own children.

FLo



 

Johnnyorganic

Well-Known Member
this was your first post on the topic... already praising her could be lies before going off on your tangents to manipulate the situation and what i have been saying.. again show me where i said she was unfit to be the vp because she was a mother? show me where i said she didnt have the right to be a vp because she was a mother? you cant because i didnt, i strictly gave opinions about her character and what her character reflected as a polotician.. YOU johnny were the one to go off on all the tangents in an attemt to get away from the opinions and views being presented to you and to give yourself a false sense of valididty in your arguement... sorry bud.. maybe next time... i may be 21 but your not gonna pull that bullshit on me

glad your learning johnny... maybe you will start believing the shit that you type... in the mean time keep on giving me those negative reps

and as far as your whining comments johnny.. nice comeback... i expose your flawed logic, your lack or reasoning, and your immense ignorance and all you can say is im whining? come on now you can do better than that. why dont you not take the easy road out and try to actually formulate a defense instead of just giving me negative reps and being childish? this is a political discussion.. confront the situation dont run away... i want to hear your view but i dont want you to try and tell me what mine is.. its not to late you can redeem yourself and claw your way out from under that giant pile of shit you have bought. or maybe you can keep kissing republican ass.

FLo
I answered your points and you sniveled that I was unfair. I met your points and you accused me of twisting the meaning of your words. You insult me, I retaliate via the rep system and you WHINE like a little kid. You're still whining.

What difference does it make? You will continue to say a mother has the right to work away from the home, but not Governor Palin. Your selective sense of fairness is untenable.
nobody is saying that women should stay at home and do dishes and be suzie home maker but she should be staying at home when she has five kids, two in high school one in elementary and a new born...
So bray on and fling your stupid little insults. It seems that is the only arrow in your quiver. Fire away. :twisted:

In the meantime, go get me a cup of coffee.
 

misshestermoffitt

New Member
Yep, and if you tell your children not to lie and you've lied before, your a worthless hypocrite.....right?:roll:

WTF are you talking about? She is pushing abstinence over sex education and her daughter is 17 and pregnant. Tell me how her abstinence theory is working for the general public if her own daughter can't abstaine?
 

Big P

Well-Known Member
i didnt read this whole thread but if the palin daughter is 5 months preg and that down syndrome baby is 5 months old

correct me if im wrong but that would be anotamically not possible.

this is some shit when such a stupid and obviously false rumer can go around lol




did sombody say recess? is this recess? i call swing!!


.
 

ccodiane

New Member
WTF are you talking about? She is pushing abstinence over sex education and her daughter is 17 and pregnant. Tell me how her abstinence theory is working for the general public if her own daughter can't abstaine?
How old were you the first time you got laid?

Stop acting like preaching virtue, even if you yourself have made mistakes, is a wasted effort. It's not.

PS- I wonder if she would have the child if she was indoctrinated by the very sex ed groups you advocate on behalf of.......it would be one less grandchild for the first female VP, I'd surmise.
 

misshestermoffitt

New Member
How old were you the first time you got laid?

Stop acting like preaching virtue, even if you yourself have made mistakes, is a wasted effort. It's not.

I'm not running for office. I'm not telling people they shouldn't do something and then having my kid run around and do that same thing.

I'm not preaching virtue, but if your stance on the issue is don't be out fuckin and your daughter goes out fuckin and gets pregnant, that makes you look like an ass, now doesn't it?

If you can't keep your own daughter from fuckin and getting knocked up then how can you help lead a country? If you can't keep your own employees from fucking your daughter how can you help lead a country?

She can't keep her own household in line, yet we're supposed to follow her lead? I don't think so.
 

FLoJo

Well-Known Member
Yep, and if you tell your children not to lie and you've lied before, your a worthless hypocrite.....right?:roll:
everybody has lied, yes even you ccodiane, but how are we supposed to believer her abstinence program is going to sway the minds of millions of kids when the person advocating the program cant keep her own kid from getting pregnant? but if you wanna buy the bullshit go right ahead..

on the same note ccodiane when are you ever going to add something meaningful to a discussion here? you always seem to come in and make a bunch of pointless points and continue to do if for nothing else to increase your post count.. guess lucky for you its the internet and nobody can stop you..


and johnny you are like a broken record... whine whine whine... while you were the one to throw the first stone.. i will state the obvious that giving someone negative rep because YOU cant argue the points is childish.. call me crazy... but thats logic

anybody with half a brain can go back, read what you wrote, and what i wrote, and know that you twisted my words to fit your agenda... my whole point of this topic was HYPOTHETICAL as stated from the beginning. i wanted OPINIONS on what people would think about her if this scandal was found out to be true, which it obviously has not. with so much praise and drooling over her old sweaty wizard sleeve i wanted to see how people would react... you, from the beginning, will defend her as if she was your own mother, wanting to make her as some kind of martyr even if she lied, which is obvious from your very first post.

you can twist it all you want but i still never said she doesnt have the right to work and i challenge you to show me where i said that.. i made distinctions and observations that you still cannot even comment on and keep coming back with these acusations and childs play.. i have quoted you on basicaly every acusation and twist that you have thrown at me and all you can do is say i whine...reaaaaaal adult of you...... until you can be a man/woman and own up, and actually argue the points instead of continually avoiding the situation and coming back with these three line empty posts... you can get your own coffee... cmon johhny lets play hardball, its about time you graduated...

FLo
 

Johnnyorganic

Well-Known Member
and johnny you are like a broken record... whine whine whine... while you were the one to throw the first stone.. i will state the obvious that giving someone negative rep because YOU cant argue the points is childish.. call me crazy... but thats logic

anybody with half a brain can go back, read what you wrote, and what i wrote, and know that you twisted my words to fit your agenda... my whole point of this topic was HYPOTHETICAL as stated from the beginning. i wanted OPINIONS on what people would think about her if this scandal was found out to be true, which it obviously has not. with so much praise and drooling over her old sweaty wizard sleeve i wanted to see how people would react... you, from the beginning, will defend her as if she was your own mother, wanting to make her as some kind of martyr even if she lied, which is obvious from your very first post.

you can twist it all you want but i still never said she doesnt have the right to work and i challenge you to show me where i said that.. i made distinctions and observations that you still cannot even comment on and keep coming back with these acusations and childs play.. i have quoted you on basicaly every acusation and twist that you have thrown at me and all you can do is say i whine...reaaaaaal adult of you...... until you can be a man/woman and own up, and actually argue the points instead of continually avoiding the situation and coming back with these three line empty posts... you can get your own coffee... cmon johhny lets play hardball, its about time you graduated...

FLo
I have said before and I will repeat again: People's families are off limits," Obama said. "And people's children are especially off-limits. This shouldn't be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as a governor or her potential performance as a vice president. So I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories. You know my mother had me when she was 18 and how a family deals with issues and teenage children, that shouldn’t be a topic of our politics. - Barak Obama
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/Obama_on_Palin.html?showall

I -repped you because of the insult. The insult YOU issued when you ran out of salient points. I did not complain about it on and on. I did something about it.

Your whole premise that she was dishonest was based on the fact that it was true. When it was shown to be a hoax you continued your line of reasoning. Then you object to my observation regarding the timing of the two items.

As I explained already, I argued the points. You did not appreciate what I wrote so you got pissy. And you went completely unhinged when you saw that -rep. Outstanding.

Keep it up. This very entertaining. :blsmoke:

Coffee. Black, no sugar.
 

ccodiane

New Member
I'm not running for office. I'm not telling people they shouldn't do something and then having my kid run around and do that same thing.

I'm not preaching virtue, but if your stance on the issue is don't be out fuckin and your daughter goes out fuckin and gets pregnant, that makes you look like an ass, now doesn't it?

If you can't keep your own daughter from fuckin and getting knocked up then how can you help lead a country? If you can't keep your own employees from fucking your daughter how can you help lead a country?

She can't keep her own household in line, yet we're supposed to follow her lead? I don't think so.

Well..........she's got my vote.:blsmoke:
 

FLoJo

Well-Known Member
I -repped you because of the insult. The insult YOU issued when you ran out of salient points. I did not complain about it on and on. I did something about it.

Your whole premise that she was dishonest was based on the fact that it was true. When it was shown to be a hoax you continued your line of reasoning. Then you object to my observation regarding the timing of the two items.

As I explained already, I argued the points. You did not appreciate what I wrote so you got pissy. And you went completely unhinged when you saw that -rep. Outstanding.

Keep it up. This very entertaining. :blsmoke:

Coffee. Black, no sugar.
you -repped me before i ever insulted you... prove it.. you still havent shown me what insult you speak of. and if it was over an isult why was the comment to get a clue insinuating it was for a very different reason?? i could continue to point out your flawed arguments and come up with valid points but you will never get it. the republicans obviously have you by the acorns.

and i have stated about five times already i have been debating on a hypothetical situation purely on what it would mean to her reflection of character. you tried to reason your fallacies by arguing other irrelevant topics. and i NEVER said it was true, even when it was shown as a hoax i didnt continue reasoning anything other than what my opinion was about lying and politicians and you spinning my words.. thats what i was arguing.. go back and read.. .funny how you can make all these statements and provide ZERO evedence. and i was never objecting to the timing of the two stories.. i never made any comment about it because i agreed with you there.. so again prove it.

lastly i appreciate anyones point of view and i will respect it, but when you try to take my words, and categorize me, and tell me what i believe im going to call you out.. when you argue irrelevant issues and try to manipulate the situations, ill call you out... you can continue to talk all you want but you continue to dig deeper and deeper by making all these acusations with no evidence... for the love of god johnny please prove something!!! the only thing you are right about is that i got mad when you neg repped me because it was you couldnt keep up and couldnt back your shit up... i still want you to show me the insulted you so...

heres an insult for you johhny your an idiot. you cant debate, and you cant back your shit up. prove something

oh ya and ill take an espresso, more concentrated, less bullshit.

FLo
 

VTXDave

Well-Known Member
I don't do drugs and my son was quite a pothead when he was in his teens. What does that say about me? :lol:

For the record, he's now serving his country and protecting your freedoms. ;)
 

Johnnyorganic

Well-Known Member
you -repped me before i ever insulted you... prove it.. you still havent shown me what insult you speak of. and if it was over an isult why was the comment to get a clue insinuating it was for a very different reason?? i could continue to point out your flawed arguments and come up with valid points but you will never get it. the republicans obviously have you by the acorns.

and i have stated about five times already i have been debating on a hypothetical situation purely on what it would mean to her reflection of character. you tried to reason your fallacies by arguing other irrelevant topics. and i NEVER said it was true, even when it was shown as a hoax i didnt continue reasoning anything other than what my opinion was about lying and politicians and you spinning my words.. thats what i was arguing.. go back and read.. .funny how you can make all these statements and provide ZERO evedence. and i was never objecting to the timing of the two stories.. i never made any comment about it because i agreed with you there.. so again prove it.

lastly i appreciate anyones point of view and i will respect it, but when you try to take my words, and categorize me, and tell me what i believe im going to call you out.. when you argue irrelevant issues and try to manipulate the situations, ill call you out... you can continue to talk all you want but you continue to dig deeper and deeper by making all these acusations with no evidence... for the love of god johnny please prove something!!! the only thing you are right about is that i got mad when you neg repped me because it was you couldnt keep up and couldnt back your shit up... i still want you to show me the insulted you so...

heres an insult for you johhny your an idiot. you cant debate, and you cant back your shit up. prove something

oh ya and ill take an espresso, more concentrated, less bullshit.

FLo
Sigh. You told me to get a clue and you were not complementing me. I -repped you and gave you the same advice. It's no trick to delete a post, as you well know. Bush league tactics. EDIT: No deletion. My mistake.

What do you want? Vagisil?

I have backed my points up all day long. Your obfuscation does not change that one bit. Anyone with two eyes in their head can see it plain as day.

This debate ended the minute your thread turned into a hoax.

You are a lousy operative. Way too touchy. :roll:

Coffee....
 

VTXDave

Well-Known Member
One more thing...

Teenagers are going to do whatever the hell they want. Don't believe it? Try raising some. As parents, our obligation is to do our best by instilling them with a set of moral and ethical values that "hopefully" will "stick". And they generally do...but only after their rebellious years. Raising teenagers is not easy and if a teen goes astray, it is not necessarily, IMO, a reflection upon the parent. By the time they are teens, they are fully capable, in a cognitive sense, to make decisions for themselves.

My son was no Saint. Neither was I as a teen. He drank, he smoked, he fucked girls. Now he's 22 and he's beginning to fully assimilate some of the "stuff" I tried to instill into him. He's now productive, serving his country, has a family, has goals, and he keeps his nose clean. He still does stupid shit from time to time, but don't we all?

If Palin's daughter is pregnant...so what? How is that a reflection on her? If Bill Clinton got a blow job in the Oval Office (I challenge anyone to view my previous post and see if I ever questioned his integrity with regard to this subject...I've always criticized his signing of bills and never his indiscretions), how is that a reflection on his parents? If JFK fucked Marilyn Monroe in the Oval Office, how is that a reflection on his parents?

I'm an effective manager that employs over a dozen techs. My men all believe that I'm one of the fairest managers they've ever had. Would that change if my son happened to knock up a girl a few years back?

Some of you need to try raising teenagers....Walk a mile in my shoes and see what it's like. It ain't easy.
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
so now teenage pregnancy is all good? no problem kiddies pump 'em out. just make sure your open and honest. w/e
 

misshestermoffitt

New Member
One more thing...

Teenagers are going to do whatever the hell they want. Don't believe it? Try raising some.

I have a son that is 23 and a daughter that is 20. So I've actually been a parent longer than you have. I used to tell my kids exactly this "your behavior in public directly reflects on me as a parent".

They listened to it too. I hear all the time about how polite and respectful my kids are.

I also have had the condom conversation about a million times with both of them. To this day there have been no pregnancies.

Education is the key, telling them not to do something just makes them want to run right out and try it.
 
Top