Palin faking birth of her new baby

Johnnyorganic

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Check post #106....I edited after finding a good source. I wouldn't want to repeat myself; that could be considered SPAM..........:blsmoke:
Thanks. The article was interesting, but did not mention Sex Education.

Contraception and sex education are two different issues. Although contraceptives, like abstinence, have a place in sex education.
 

tipsgnob

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I spend TOO (get it right, OK?)much time thinking about the past? And how am I trying to make "what" right? Teenagers are having babies as we speak. elected officials are getting blowjobs from their mistresses in their offices as we speak. Pray tell, what am I trying to make right other than merely stating an observation?

BTW, calling me a SICK BASTARD is acceptable with the new rules around here? Just saying. :lol:
dick...I mean dave...it's not good for teenagers to be having babies...but it happens...i know that TOO...but that doen't mean it should be normal for teenagers to have babies..it's a personal family matter and being governor...it must hard to keep an eye on them chillins..
 

ccodiane

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Nothing about sex ed in that article. Nothing about abstinence either, :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

So she's pro-contraception, but, it is still possible for her to be an abstinence only advocate? I'm still learning, I guess.:roll:

(I guess I'm just asking you to know what you're talking about before arguing invalid points. It would be a start.)
 

VTXDave

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I have a son that is 23 and a daughter that is 20. So I've actually been a parent longer than you have. I used to tell my kids exactly this "your behavior in public directly reflects on me as a parent".

They listened to it too. I hear all the time about how polite and respectful my kids are.

I also have had the condom conversation about a million times with both of them. To this day there have been no pregnancies.

Education is the key, telling them not to do something just makes them want to run right out and try it.
I too have been complimented upon my son's behavior. I too have given the condom lecture. I also have the advantage of being a big, mean, sonofabitch that easily instills the "Fear of God" when necessary. They'll still do what they want. It took me a full year to get one of my "foster kids" clean and sober so that he could get off probation because he didn't want to get clean.
 

misshestermoffitt

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So she's pro-contraception, but, it is still possible for her to be an abstinence only advocate? I'm still learning, I guess.:roll:


Pro-contraception means for adults. She doesn't want sex ed in schools. Why teach teenagers about sex. OH I know, because they are the ones groping around in the back seat. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
 

fdd2blk

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I too have been complimented upon my son's behavior. I too have given the condom lecture. I also have the advantage of being a big, mean, sonofabitch that easily instills the "Fear of God" when necessary. They'll still do what they want. It took me a full year to get one of my "foster kids" clean and sober so that he could get off probation because he didn't want to get clean.

why was he dirty in the first place? :confused:
 

Johnnyorganic

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So she's pro-contraception, but, it is still possible for her to be an abstinence only advocate? I'm still learning, I guess.:roll:

(I guess I'm just asking you to know what you're talking about before arguing invalid points. It would be a start.)
Yeah, many Conservatives believe birth control is okay for adults. Lots of Protestants in that camp.

But when it comes to providing information about contraceptives to children, some draw the line. Hence, 'Abstinence Only' sex education. This ignores a reality which is kids will have sex. And they will do so regardless of whether they have access to birth control or not.
 

VTXDave

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why was he dirty in the first place? :confused:
I took him into my home while he was fully absorbed in his addictions. It wasn't my responsibility to analyze why he had issues. It was my obligation and duty to keep him out of jail (which I did) and show him what living in a "family" was all about (which I did as well). He was 15 when I took him in. I let him go at 18.
 

fdd2blk

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I took him into my home while he was fully absorbed in his addictions. It wasn't my responsibility to analyze why he had issues. It was my obligation and duty to keep him out of jail (which I did) and show him what living in a "family" was all about (which I did as well). He was 15 when I took him in. I let him go at 18.


i think you missed my point. but you're still my "hero". :roll::peace:
 

misshestermoffitt

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So she's pro-contraception, but, it is still possible for her to be an abstinence only advocate? I'm still learning, I guess.:roll:

(I guess I'm just asking you to know what you're talking about before arguing invalid points. It would be a start.)



Source please.:roll:

I suppose we could call the pregnant 17 year old of hers a source. I would think that if that girl had received some sex education she might not be pregnant in the first place. I'm also thinking that the Aide of Palin's that got her pregnant is another source. Had he had some sex education he might not be know as Baby daddy.

If she is so on top of contraception, why didn't her daughter have any contraception?
 

FLoJo

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Sigh. You told me to get a clue and you were not complementing me. I -repped you and gave you the same advice. It's no trick to delete a post, as you well know. Bush league tactics.

What do you want? Vagisil?

I have backed my points up all day long. Your obfuscation does not change that one bit. Anyone with two eyes in their head can see it plain as day.

This debate ended the minute your thread turned into a hoax.

You are a lousy operative. Way too touchy. :roll:

Coffee....
Are you kidding me?? Please Johnny tell me your kidding me... for the love of god just admit its a joke... now you want to accuse me of deleting a post?? i would have GLADLY apologized to you if i insulted you and threw the first stone just like i did with Vi in another heated thread...I can admit when im wrong unlike you who now is accusing me of deleting a post.. thats laughable.. i will gladly contact a mod by email and see if there is a way to see if i deleted a post because i surely did not.. im not that low buddy sorry to inform you..

is this the post you were talking about??? the one i deleted?

FLoJo said:
and to answer your question ya women should be able to work outside the home but selling insurance from 9 to 5 is way different than being the vp of the usa... get a clue you know thats a very unfair comparisom
if you think that is an isult you do need to get a clue.. anyone with a peanut for a brain can tell that comparing an insurance salesman and the VP of the US is unfair and that they have a completely different skill set and level of responsibility.

and vagisil? come on now how elementary is that.. how bout i start insulting your mom or better yet telling you i slept with your sister.. how old are you 10?? you sure act like it.

and again, sorry to inform you that you havent backed up shit.. i have asked you time and time again to quote me and back yourself up and you have yet to do so. you keep saying you have backed yourself up but where is the proof??

Johnnyorganic said:
It was your original insult I disapproved of and was responding to. The language in my -rep was clear. Deal with it.
Telling you that you need to open your eyes and make a relevant argument is basis for that behavior? or wait was it the post that i deleted where i called you a stupid ignorant fuck and told you to get a clue right?? ya didnt think so...

Johnnyorganic said:
You think the Democrats don't lie? NEWSFLASH: Politicians lie all the time.

According to FLoJo this is a forbidden topic. No tangents, even if germane to the thread.
Excuse me... but wasnt the basis of this topic about the impacts of politicians and lying? way to borrow my wordage from a few posts up too.. keep in mind i never said she was lying i was questioning this matter on a hypothetical level... or wait you have proof to prove me wrong right?

Johnnyorganic said:
Your whole premise that she was dishonest was based on the fact that it was true. When it was shown to be a hoax you continued your line of reasoning. Then you object to my observation regarding the timing of the two items.
First of all when did I say it was true? When did i say she was dishonest? When did i say this was proven? the headline was meant to draw people in for a discussion. how many times did i say i was asking this question in a hypothetical manner and what the impact on her image would be.. hell that was in the first quote.. how many examples do you want me to pull.. i saw at least 4 or 5. do i need to quote them too?

Johnnyorganic said:
Your position seems to be unfair by suggesting that a woman should be disqualified to be Vice President just by the virtue of the fact she is a mother.
Please point out to me where i said or suggested that she should be disqualified to be the VP because she was a mother? even if it was true even i know they wouldnt change nominees. it would just devestate her image and the election which is exactly the question i was posing.. but please show me the proof you speak of.

Johnnyorganic said:
And your argument is blunted by the fact that you ignore Equal Protection as guaranteed under the Constitution. A woman has the right to become VP regardless of her status as a mother.
When did I state she had no right to be the VP? when did i say she had no right to be the VP because she was a mother? proof please?? Even if she did lie about it that still wouldnt take away her right to be VP.. this is America, i know that.. im not that dull.

Johnnyorganic said:
You will continue to say a mother has the right to work away from the home, but not Governor Palin.
Again when did i say she had no right to be VP? When did i say she had no right to work? I did say that nobody is telling her to stay at home (her house) and be suzie home maker, the dishwasher and maid. I also said she should stay home (Alaska) and take care of her family.. be the governor, be a mayor whatever... work away... thats my opinion, im not attempting to make ammendments to the constitution here.

I am still waiting to see all this proof you speak of.. ive done some legwork so now its your turn.. i have made my point and anyone can go back and read and see the truth..

espresso... pronto

FLo
 

VTXDave

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i think you missed my point. but you're still my "hero". :roll::peace:
No I'm not. You're alluding to the possibility that he was fucked up when he came to me because of his upbringing by his parents. I still know his parents and they're good people...especially his father. James made his choices...I corrected them.
 

Johnnyorganic

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Are you kidding me?? Please Johnny tell me your kidding me... for the love of god just admit its a joke... now you want to accuse me of deleting a post?? i would have GLADLY apologized to you if i insulted you and threw the first stone just like i did with Vi in another heated thread...I can admit when im wrong unlike you who now is accusing me of deleting a post.. thats laughable.. i will gladly contact a mod by email and see if there is a way to see if i deleted a post because i surely did not.. im not that low buddy sorry to inform you..

is this the post you were talking about??? the one i deleted?



if you think that is an isult you do need to get a clue.. anyone with a peanut for a brain can tell that comparing an insurance salesman and the VP of the US is unfair and that they have a completely different skill set and level of responsibility.

and vagisil? come on now how elementary is that.. how bout i start insulting your mom or better yet telling you i slept with your sister.. how old are you 10?? you sure act like it.

and again, sorry to inform you that you havent backed up shit.. i have asked you time and time again to quote me and back yourself up and you have yet to do so. you keep saying you have backed yourself up but where is the proof??



Telling you that you need to open your eyes and make a relevant argument is basis for that behavior? or wait was it the post that i deleted where i called you a stupid ignorant fuck and told you to get a clue right?? ya didnt think so...



Excuse me... but wasnt the basis of this topic about the impacts of politicians and lying? way to borrow my wordage from a few posts up too.. keep in mind i never said she was lying i was questioning this matter on a hypothetical level... or wait you have proof to prove me wrong right?



First of all when did I say it was true? When did i say she was dishonest? When did i say this was proven? the headline was meant to draw people in for a discussion. how many times did i say i was asking this question in a hypothetical manner and what the impact on her image would be.. hell that was in the first quote.. how many examples do you want me to pull.. i saw at least 4 or 5. do i need to quote them too?



Please point out to me where i said or suggested that she should be disqualified to be the VP because she was a mother? even if it was true even i know they wouldnt change nominees. it would just devestate her image and the election which is exactly the question i was posing.. but please show me the proof you speak of.



When did I state she had no right to be the VP? when did i say she had no right to be the VP because she was a mother? proof please?? Even if she did lie about it that still wouldnt take away her right to be VP.. this is America, i know that.. im not that dull.



Again when did i say she had no right to be VP? When did i say she had no right to work? I did say that nobody is telling her to stay at home (her house) and be suzie home maker, the dishwasher and maid. I also said she should stay home (Alaska) and take care of her family.. be the governor, be a mayor whatever... work away... thats my opinion, im not attempting to make ammendments to the constitution here.

I am still waiting to see all this proof you speak of.. ive done some legwork so now its your turn.. i have made my point and anyone can go back and read and see the truth..

espresso... pronto

FLo
You still here? You'll figure out soon enough I'm not reading your gibberish. That's just too much to expect from an idiot.

Thanks for doing all that research, though.

Black coffee, no sugar.
 
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