Palin On Health Bill

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
you're right, soldering itself ain't hard. keeping track of the nodes, as they only go one way, and the initial investment in the leds is more the problem.

a nice led light is the only thing (it seems) that is more expensive to build yourself rather than buy somewhere.

way of the future though.
 

jeff f

New Member
as one of them, i'll say it: pretty darn good. i started selling weed. haven't punched a clock since. just turn the lights on and then off every day. answer to no one but myself.

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and there we have it folks....he is a leech. he sells pot completely off the books. doesnt pay a fucking dime in taxes but will enjoy the free healthcare paid for by smucks that work and live by the rules.

now lemme go way way way out on a limb here, you are collecting something from the govt. either an unemployment check, ssi, something, and your damn sure gonna take the free healthcare i have to pay for.

blahahahahahahahaha. case closed leech
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
and there we have it folks....he is a leech. he sells pot completely off the books. doesnt pay a fucking dime in taxes but will enjoy the free healthcare paid for by smucks that work and live by the rules.

now lemme go way way way out on a limb here, you are collecting something from the govt. either an unemployment check, ssi, something, and your damn sure gonna take the free healthcare i have to pay for.

blahahahahahahahaha. case closed leech
wrong and wrong.

i am still entitled to collect, but have no need to.

and i pay for my health insurance. my wife's family is rather wealthy and does not want that wealth put at risk should i get sick, so this is not an option.

however, i will be paying for your healthcare since you seem pretty pissed about the individual mandate, refuse to get insured, eventually have a medical emergency, and declare bankruptcy in face of the overwhelming hospital bills.

one thing you are right about: i pay no taxes, but not by choice. i would love to pay taxes, but my ventures are in the quasi legal medical market. so suck it.

do you ever get tired of making dumb assumptions and being wrong?
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
how do you like tyranny when it takes a trillion bucks and gives it to bankers?

how do the 8 million people who are out of work because politicians fucked up the housing market...how do those folks feel?
Most overused word in 09, Tyranny has my vote.

Boo hoo, I really get sick of all this pissing and moaning about how we got so screwed. We are really good at pushing blame onto other people, but maybe we really should take some of the responsibility for this crash ourselves, somehow the politicians are to blame for all the ills right?

I mean part of the blame cannot possibly be due to say the company that I worked for pushing out tons of equipment over the last decade to peoples homes with many of them using things like wells fargos 1 year no interest payments, only trick (and I always tried to let people know upfront, but that 30% interest is accruing in a second account and if you go over 1 day, poof it drops into your account making that 3k homegym 4k. Blame cannot possibly be placed on the real estate agents that sold people homes that they knew eventually they would not be able to afford, even if they warned them about the fact that they will want to sell the house before the five years are up and interest rates would be able to jump making your home unaffordable.

Nor the home depots making bank off of the housing boom, or carpet companies, furniture stores, auto dealers, shops keepers. Nor the home builders making 6 figure incomes as they flood the market with homes that become more and more expensive as people take out 2nd and third mortgages for things like boats and tvs. All of us benefitted, we all made a shit load off of the housing boom.

And the people that made the most directly were the people that sold their homes for more than what they purchased it for, and less on the people that bought it because they were not able to make money off the deal, meaning that they were the losers in this.

But no, it cannot be the hundreds of millions of people who profitted off of the housing boom right Jeff? No it has to be the 500 or so politicians that forced everyone to take out these loans right, please, allowing people to make up their minds is in no way tyranny, its allowing people to make up their own minds, the only problem is every time we will eventually use too much and fuck the system up. We need regulation because of this exact situation.


how about the few million who lost their homes because they couldnt make payments due to the huge tax burden associated with paying politicians a million bucks to run a podunk town in cali?
How about the millions more hit that lost their homes because there is not enough demand for their services and went out of businesses? There will always be crooked government officials, and without more info on this really dont have much to talk about, but is this the place where the politicians wedre getting paid like 750k a year for city jobs?

how about the farmers in central cali who were stripped of WATER to save a fucking toad, fish or lizard or some bullshit? how are they liking that their lively hood was TAKEN by politicians?
Where were their farms? Let me ask you this, should we continue to just pay an assload of money as a country to places that are stupid for people to live in? I really think that we should listen more to the scientists that tell us, hey maybe not a great idea to live below the seea level right off the gulf incase of a hurricane, or how about we dont live in flood plains, maybe farming in water table areas is also not a great things for long term health of our country. Should we not actually be made to think shit through more than a couple years ahead?

how bout the oil workers losing their jobs now because of a stupid moritorium that forced equipment to be shipped to other parts of the world?
Did you just miss the oil leak? I know it has to have been a bad idea, but did you hear about all the opil companies came together and are brainstorming ways to actually fix broken shit so that they can go back to congress and pitch to get the oil rigs back up and running. Would that really happen if we just out of sight out of minded it? Is that how anything in this world has ever worked? Hell no, people need to have a reason to do shit better or they will continue to do it the same.

your vocabulary may be big but your brain is little. like i said, dont worry because defenders of liberty will save your ass.

see, the people who made the country great are now going to take it back. we are sort of like the military, you can bitch about us all you want...but there aint a fucking thing you can do about us. we are here, we aint queer, and we are taking down your big govt buddies. jokes on you UB.
Take it back from who? We are americans right? Do you mean you want it back to the times that people could build buildings with asbestos? Or lead paint for your child crib, because hell if its on the free market and a government official says shit about it its tyranny right?







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Silky Shagsalot

Well-Known Member
o.k., i only read the first paragraph, and stopped. the american public has the shortest attention span of the entire earth's population, lol. i'm serious! does no one remember the large part of obama's spiel were his plans for healthcare? do you not remember how the people were on his dick they loved it so much! after he won, the republican machine went into action (just like the dems would have on something, lol.) and scared the american public into thinking it was a horrible/risky plan, lol. that's pretty much how we are where we are now concerning healthcare. as for palin, not worth the energy it takes to make these keystrokes, period!
 

medicineman

New Member
My health care insurance went from 290.00 a month to 523.00 in one fell swoop. I can't imagine their costs went up that much. The greedy bastards have decided they will raise their rates as much as they can before the Health care bill is enacted. The Health care bill is a piece of shit, gutted by the republicans to only include most things the insurance companies wanted. Without a public option, it is a piece of crap, a giveaway to the insurance companies. I kind of hope the republicans take over congress. The billionaires will be happy, the corporations will be happy, and I really don't see how they can fuck me over anyway. Then maybe the idiotic people that voted them in can see what a sell out crowd they are. Then when we get president Palin, I can pack up and move to canada, but even that is not far enough away for the incoming nukes.
 

jeff f

New Member
My health care insurance went from 290.00 a month to 523.00 in one fell swoop. I can't imagine their costs went up that much. The greedy bastards have decided they will raise their rates as much as they can before the Health care bill is enacted. The Health care bill is a piece of shit, gutted by the republicans to only include most things the insurance companies wanted. Without a public option, it is a piece of crap, a giveaway to the insurance companies. I kind of hope the republicans take over congress. The billionaires will be happy, the corporations will be happy, and I really don't see how they can fuck me over anyway. Then maybe the idiotic people that voted them in can see what a sell out crowd they are. Then when we get president Palin, I can pack up and move to canada, but even that is not far enough away for the incoming nukes.
oh wise one, please explain how the republicans gutted ghe piece of shit health bill. as i recall there were only 41 of them and i think 3 voted FOR the bill. i shall wait for your wisdom medican man.

it figures that as soon as YOU figure out that its a piece of shit you blame the republicans. they were kicking and screaming telling you what was gonna happen. and now it has. and now its THEIR fault? you are fucking classic.

just wait till it all kicks in, you are really gonna be bitching then....just giving you a heads up.
 

doc111

Well-Known Member
Obfuscation will not help you.

Neither will deflection.

Buck, you are pinned down.

Does the Governor of state which borders two foreign countries have experience in foreign relations?

Yes or no.

It's that simple.

I'll call for the medic.
I know I'm a little late but did somebody call me?:?
 

Parker

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by jeff f
and there we have it folks....he is a leech. he sells pot completely off the books. doesnt pay a fucking dime in taxes but will enjoy the free healthcare paid for by smucks that work and live by the rules.

now lemme go way way way out on a limb here, you are collecting something from the govt. either an unemployment check, ssi, something, and your damn sure gonna take the free healthcare i have to pay for.

blahahahahahahahaha. case closed leech
wrong and wrong.

i am still entitled to collect, but have no need to.

and i pay for my health insurance. my wife's family is rather wealthy and does not want that wealth put at risk should i get sick, so this is not an option.

however, i will be paying for your healthcare since you seem pretty pissed about the individual mandate, refuse to get insured, eventually have a medical emergency, and declare bankruptcy in face of the overwhelming hospital bills.

one thing you are right about: i pay no taxes, but not by choice. i would love to pay taxes, but my ventures are in the quasi legal medical market. so suck it.

do you ever get tired of making dumb assumptions and being wrong?
wow I get to defend Unclebuck here. Why should he have his money taken by force by the government? What right do they have to his money? More power to him that he doesn't allow someone to steal from him. Just another reason to have user fees imo.

But then again why should I be forced to have health care?
 

Parker

Well-Known Member
i got my rates raised every year i had health insurance anyway. now they just have something to blame it on. you blame the actions of the greedy, record profit making health insurers on the dude who made sure they can't drop you when you get sick or deny you for any one of an infinite list of pre-existing conditions. credit where credit is due, and be sure not to forget that those insurers tripled your rates over the last however many years anyway.
Why does it matter to you if they make record profits? Isn't that what the free market system tells us to do and what a great many want to do? That is have record profits. No ones business how much someone makes. The consumers only concern should be a good product for a fair price. Why care about the profits? Of course we do not have a free market in the field of medicine.

What has happened is government interference which has driven the costs of the care sky high. Drug manufactures charge outrageous prices while the same product is sold across the border many times cheaper. States rights were overruled by ERISA laws that say you cannot sue for more than the claim. How can you keep the unscrupulous ones in line when all they can do is loose the original amount of the claim, plus lawyer costs and fees IF the claimant lives. Insurance companies cannot compete out of state so there is less competition. The politicians have stacked the deck against the people. That is the reason.

You have to treat the cause not the symptom.
 

laughingduck

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If you really want to know how much obamacare will cost its not to hard to calculate. The healthcare in the U.S. is 20% of the GDP, that equals about 2 trillian. Multiply that times two (that is the multiplier for the beauracracy that is our federal goverment) comes to a total of 4 trillian a year! My guestimation is an average tax rate of 65%! whoo hoo! I hope the libs are proud. You wont be able to afford a place to live, groceries, much less a car, but at least you will be healthy before you freeze to death. oh i crack myself up!
 

Puna Bud

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I would love palin to give me a BJ:) THATS ALL SHE GOOD FOR.
are you kidding? She probaby doesn't even swallow. I imagine back in her school days she did a lot of "hand jobs" mostly. That's how the right explains how they obstain,...thru Hand Jobs Hey, but she's next to Canada. I wonder if she's good at "Canadian Rim Jobs"(butt licks)? Since she's a conservative. I imagine she has one of those extremely hairy, piss smelling puunanis I wonder how many times a week she puts the "strap on", and takes it out on poor old Todd's arse!?
 

Puna Bud

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If you really want to know how much obamacare will cost its not to hard to calculate. The healthcare in the U.S. is 20% of the GDP, that equals about 2 trillian. Multiply that times two (that is the multiplier for the beauracracy that is our federal goverment) comes to a total of 4 trillian a year! My guestimation is an average tax rate of 65%! whoo hoo! I hope the libs are proud. You wont be able to afford a place to live, groceries, much less a car, but at least you will be healthy before you freeze to death. oh i crack myself up!
it's people like you who feel compelled to run this same old GOP bullshit mantra on the public. the reality of it is the GOP wants nothing to do with common folks like you, and I. In two and a half years time the GOP has almost totally "Oaky doked" the American Public into believing that Obama is a muslim,that Obama is a socialist, etc.,etc.. The party of "No",almost pulled it off too. Thank God the GOP had their primary, it's was the game changer. As of Sept.29th Obama's popularity plunged to an alltime low:

48% approval
46% disapproved

As of yesterday:

54% approval
40% disapproval

Why the drastic change? America has awoke to the reality that foreign money is trying to sway our mid-term elections. Bottomline, America is about fairness. With the news coming thru hoe foreign investors are poring millions upon millions of dollars thru the US Chamber of Commerence to oppose the Dems at every election. So why is the Washington allowing all this foreign capital to come thru the US Chamber of Commerence? I don't know for sure, but it's fucked up.
Best thing that ever happened to the Dems was the GOP's primary. Thru all the "BS" rose several Religious Right candidates aka "Tea Partyers"(when i hear that name. I aways have this vision of a pair of extremely hairy nuts laying across the face of Dick Armey). Never mind Sara Palin, the GOP now has "Baby Palin" in Christine O'Donnell, and "Grandma Palin" in Sharon Angle. Plus the list goes on and on of who's who on the mid-term elections for the GOP,..just about all of them nutcases like Palin. Plus, like Palin, not a single one could answer basic questions with regard to the US Constitution, and any Supreme Court ruling for or against. Well America has been watchiing this over the news for past several weeks,and it has left a bad taste in the mouth of anybody who really loves this country. Plus these asswipes would take away medical cannabis sooner than you could say recreational cannabis.

The GOP has ruined what was left of the middle class duringr Bush's 8 years of hell. This entire issue is about race with the GOP. That party is the party of old white males,and they are having an extremely hard time with a Black President. Especially a Black man who is not a "Stepp'in Fetched",type African American. As a matter of fact I'd be willing to bet that the majority of the GOP members in house or senate wouldn't have been able to pass Obama's Constitutional Class at Harvard Law. I've witnessed more bullshit against this man since he gained the seat in the wheite than any other president before him,and it's got nothing to do with politics either!
 

laughingduck

Well-Known Member
Puna, Someday you will wake up and realize that nobody gives a crap about race or sexual preference. People are worried about the survival of this country, it was all built on a ponzi scheme that is comeing unraveled. The only way to recover from this is to wise up about the causes, and growth. If the country does not start growing in a meaningful way we won't have a country. Keep believin what your told, the rest of us will drag your sorry ass along. Its what we do.
 

medicineman

New Member
oh wise one, please explain how the republicans gutted ghe piece of shit health bill. as i recall there were only 41 of them and i think 3 voted FOR the bill. i shall wait for your wisdom medican man.

it figures that as soon as YOU figure out that its a piece of shit you blame the republicans. they were kicking and screaming telling you what was gonna happen. and now it has. and now its THEIR fault? you are fucking classic.

just wait till it all kicks in, you are really gonna be bitching then....just giving you a heads up.
Geeze, i really didn't know that you were that un-informed. Crawl out from under that rock and look around. To get the two republican votes they had to give up damn near everything good about the bill. Every time the bill went to committee, the repukes chizeled away at the parts that were bad for the insurance industry untill we got that shitpot they call health care. I could care less for me as I'm on Medicare and you assholes will never get rid of that before I croak, so I'm covered for life, But a lot of people will suffer and die because of the greedy right wing pricks that want to privatize everything. The greed on the right is unparalleled. In 70 fucking years I've never seen so many greedy pricks as exists in this society now. I'm ready to use my 2nd amendment rights any time now. Violence is on the rise, more beatings, home invasions, carjackings, etc. I have a carry permit and I do believe I'll start carrying. A real class war is coming, you rich pricks better get bulletproof automobiles soon, the people are getting pretty pissed off at the rich. Home invasions are happening all over Vegas, They keep as many as they can out of the news, But I personally know two cases, never made the 6 O-clock news.
Oh yeah, health care, A real piece of shit, the repukes killed the real deal.
 
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