Petition To Change The Insult Rule To Malicious Harassment (Or Something Like That.)

Timmahh said:

change insult rule to malicious content? sounds like somebodys Pussy is bleeding overtime today.

wtf dude, really. Make the masses curb for the will of 3 or 4 sore twats? REALLY?
get a fucking life.

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Please refer to pages 1-12 to see how the discussion has evolved please. Serious topic for some, passionate for others. Thank you for your willingess to contribute, however please read so you do not post and get people all riled up again.

Not saying you are a troll, but your actions are DEFINITELY not part of a positive solution.

Thank you.

The Cryptkeeper said:

lol
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sorry was I yelling .........................................ROFLMAO I love ya Crypt. SERapis Hey dude.......miss ya..........SEE4 YO dude..........ok Im gone........no more post just had to respond to the sig thing..............cowards............BYE ALL I LOVE YA well all except oops lol bye

LostReefSponger said:

The petition is for how trolls and those that respond to them are dealt with, punishment wise. Did you read the whole thread? (I don't blame you if you didn't) but it's to alter the rule so that long time members that do joke around by giving people shit aren't banned while the "troll" or "flamer" is allowed to continue doing what they do. All of us that sign this and/or that have been posting have seen that it isn't an attempt to make it okay to insult people, we are just trying to revise where "insult" and, well, I guess "defense" (for lack of a better word) differ and can be handled differently as well.

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You handled that better than i. Mea Culpa! And thank you for reminding me of not only being respectful, but not TOO quick to judge. +REP

LostReefSponger said:

I like the way you talk, no homo

(ps. this is my 420th post...I think)

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***Sits down and straps his ass to the chair******


Happy 420!

see4 said:

Pony has a point. Who cares about the rules? A petition wont change anything. There is an easier solution to this. Leave. I'm only sticking around for one reason, a couple of you know what I'm talking about.. but once I'm done, I don't see the need to walk on egg shells any longer.

I must admit, once I saw Bartel Dew Taco, I was all like, Would you look at that, I mean just look at it! But now, Im just like, fuck it. I don't give a shit.

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I think that this "petition" has kind of evolved into more of a raising awareness kind of thing, you know, like "Hands Are Not For Hurting" week in schools? Eventually, yes, the arguing and bitching will come back, but for right now we have been able to get the thread on a more positive note and agree on people voicing their opinion differently.

I am hoping that the positive posts that have been going on eventually spread around this forum and the burning takes a back seat for a bit, if I am going to be living in a country with Obama as president then I probably should learn to have some kind of hope, right? haha

I once saw a Bartel Dew Taco commercial, and yes, it had me saying, "Would you look at that! I mean just look at it!" But now I have tivo so I can just fast forward through the commercials

StonedPony said:

sorry was I yelling .........................................ROFLMAO I love ya Crypt. SERapis Hey dude.......miss ya..........SEE4 YO dude..........ok Im gone........no more post just had to respond to the sig thing..............cowards............BYE ALL I LOVE YA well all except oops lol bye

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Your loins are filled with burning? Are you trying to tell us you have a massive Viagra erection and it's been up for 4 hours? Do you need us to call you a doctor? You do realize having a raging boner for longer than 4 hours can lead to serious man meat damage.

all this really stemmed from my nostalgia for how this place used to be. I saw a way we could build community, by defending one another.

but of course that couldn't work, the vibe is lost. I should just accept it and move on.

poplars said:

all this really stemmed from my nostalgia for how this place used to be. I saw a way we could build community, by defending one another.

but of course that couldn't work, the vibe is lost. I should just accept it and move on.

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i am defending you as we speak. Pm me. i may have a secret for you to make this more tolerable.

To illustrate my ponit regarding rules of debate, again refer to this https://www.rollitup.org/spirituality-sexuality-philosophy/425194-why-bible-so-revered-word-40.html thread and notice how BrotherBuz's attitude and actions have changed towards me? He more or less ignores me. It works guys......

poplars said:

all this really stemmed from my nostalgia for how this place used to be. I saw a way we could build community, by defending one another.

but of course that couldn't work, the vibe is lost. I should just accept it and move on.

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No dude we are still defending each other, check out what not only I said to that Timah guy that tried flaming you, but also what budlover said to the guy too. We both defended you, we just didnt go about it by telling him to fuck off. As budlover stated it would just rile things up again and then everyone would be back to throwing shit on each other, right back where we dont want to be. As of right now the thread has seemed to be pretty positive and when people have needed to be dealt with it's gone about in a less confrontational way and more of an educational way.

Budlover13 even said he sees where you come from when you tell people to fuck off and everything, doesn't that show things have taken a couple steps forward?

LostReefSponger said:

No dude we are still defending each other, check out what not only I said to that Timah guy that tried flaming you, but also what budlover said to the guy too. We both defended you, we just didnt go about it by telling him to fuck off. As budlover stated it would just rile things up again and then everyone would be back to throwing shit on each other, right back where we dont want to be. As of right now the thread has seemed to be pretty positive and when people have needed to be dealt with it's gone about in a less confrontational way and more of an educational way.

Budlover13 even said he sees where you come from when you tell people to fuck off and everything, doesn't that show things have taken a couple steps forward?

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it was a bad idea from the start. if this place doesn't have the community it isn't going to magically get it back. I thought something radical could bring us together but this is still ridiculously fragmented and it will fade away unless something bigger happens.

i better hurry up and give out my name and email to help change the rules i already agreed to obey! D:

there is a way. a simple way. have an unobtrusive moderation team. not invasive. instead of slapping people with infractions and warnings all the time. use good judgement and moderate objectively. it can be done.

Round and round it goes....where it stops...I hope there hoe's..

Has a single thread like this ever solved anything?


Ever?




Other then the unbanning of said people. And I dunno why the banning or unbanning even happened.

see4 said:

there is a way. a simple way. have an unobtrusive moderation team. not invasive. instead of slapping people with infractions and warnings all the time. use good judgement and moderate objectively. it can be done.

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No one can have power and not abuse it. Wah waaah waaaaaah.

poplars said:

it was a bad idea from the start. if this place doesn't have the community it isn't going to magically get it back. I thought something radical could bring us together but this is still ridiculously fragmented and it will fade away unless something bigger happens.

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Now what kind of attitude is that for a stoner? You mentioned the prohibition on weed quite a bit earlier in this thread so I am going to bring it back up for you.

The prohibition on marijuana has been going on for how long now? Quite a few fucken years now, and though they have been saying "marijuana should be legal in 5 years" since the 70's, it would almost seem like no movement forward has happened, yeah? Fast forward to now where there are multiple states that are now medically legal, some states are toning down their hunts for marijuana users, and there are ballots now that ONE () can can use to vote to possibly get marijuana legal, if not yet on a federal level, it's at least almost legal on a state level. Those small steps forward through years have become quite the movement, look how freely marijuana is advertised and talked about as compared to just 5 years ago.

Now, relate it on a smaller level to this thread. Yes, nothing big is going to happen overnight to where the trolls and burners are gone, BUT we can make small steps forward to correct where other members have gone wrong in feeding their fire, and hopefully discourage trolls from multiplying like mormon rabbits.

I am not saying you should change the way you go about responding to people, that's your choice man and who am I to try telling you to change it up. I will back you up full board when it comes to something that we both agree on and can see the greater cause in the end, I'm just gonna go about my defending it (and you) in my own way.

Did I ramble too much? I've been smoking my pressed keif all day with some joints on the side

Kodank Moment said:

No one can have power and not abuse it. Wah waaah waaaaaah.

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I have great power. I haven't abused it. I've left it up to the people who supposedly have the power to solve things. But I do have a silver tongue.

Kodank Moment said:

Round and round it goes....where it stops...I hope there hoe's..

Has a single thread like this ever solved anything?


Ever?




Other then the unbanning of said people. And I dunno why the banning or unbanning even happened.

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To quote a wise man:


"The petition is for how trolls and those that respond to them are dealt with, punishment wise. Did you read the whole thread? (I don't blame you if you didn't) but it's to alter the rule so that long time members that do joke around by giving people shit aren't banned while the "troll" or "flamer" is allowed to continue doing what they do. All of us that sign this and/or that have been posting have seen that it isn't an attempt to make it okay to insult people, we are just trying to revise where "insult" and, well, I guess "defense" (for lack of a better word) differ and can be handled differently as well. "

budlover13 said:

To quote a wise man:


"The petition is for how trolls and those that respond to them are dealt with, punishment wise. Did you read the whole thread? (I don't blame you if you didn't) but it's to alter the rule so that long time members that do joke around by giving people shit aren't banned while the "troll" or "flamer" is allowed to continue doing what they do. All of us that sign this and/or that have been posting have seen that it isn't an attempt to make it okay to insult people, we are just trying to revise where "insult" and, well, I guess "defense" (for lack of a better word) differ and can be handled differently as well. "

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Oh, oh! I think I know who this one was!!!! That was StonedPony wasn't it?

Herein lies the problem.

LostReff and i have been "self-moderating" this thread between RIU users and RIU mods. We made our positions clear, neutrally. The result? A few steps forward i think. AND me being on the damn computer for 5 hours moderating. i have laundry and yardwork to do as well as tend to my little green ladies(week 3 veg). BUT, when i walk away here shortly, I will walk away at peace knowing i did everything in my power to make RIU turn around a little and go back to this real cool place i keep hearing about that existed before i joined last year. It's still cool, but that less negative thing is the vibe i promise i will create.