Petition To Change The Insult Rule To Malicious Harassment (Or Something Like That.)

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budlover13

King Tut
Well, i did it in all CAPS, but that's not how it posted. STILL need a cigarette and now my fingers are sore!

Oh well. Don't need the cig and maybe i'll pick my nose a little less.
 

see4

Well-Known Member
It is possible to moderate the posts and not the posters. If the poster continually posts harmful comments, then moderation of the poster is suitable.
 

LostReefSponger

Active Member
Herein lies the problem.

LostReff and i have been "self-moderating" this thread between RIU users and RIU mods. We made our positions clear, neutrally. The result? A few steps forward i think. AND me being on the damn computer for 5 hours moderating. i have laundry and yardwork to do as well as tend to my little green ladies(week 3 veg). BUT, when i walk away here shortly, I will walk away at peace knowing i did everything in my power to make RIU turn around a little and go back to this real cool place i keep hearing about that existed before i joined last year. It's still cool, but that less negative thing is the vibe i promise i will create.
Just trying to do my part on RIU, don't wanna come in here and after a few months think I can run the place or anything. I was also able to spend so much time doing this today because I got all my homecare things I needed done yesterday, was finally a sunny day here so I took advantage of that, today was rainy so I stayed inside and continue to blaze it up.
 

LostReefSponger

Active Member
It is possible to moderate the posts and not the posters. If the poster continually posts harmful comments, then moderation of the poster is suitable.
I sure hope something like this can happen. Deleting the posts is obviously one solution, but some posts by older members that do give shit in joking ways can be taken different tones over the screen so that is where the moderator needs to look into the actual content of it, not just the one single post. If a poster has x amount of posts deleted then I think further punishment is needed.

That being said, I have seen members that directly insult someone and then later on do apologize for what they said, even if their insult was already deleted. This is where deleting posts, rather than banning a member would be more helpful and if someone has to constantly have posts deleted and are obviously being disrespectful on purpose rather than out of frustration I think we can all agree they then deserve the infractions and banishments.
 

budlover13

King Tut
Just trying to do my part on RIU, don't wanna come in here and after a few months think I can run the place or anything. I was also able to spend so much time doing this today because I got all my homecare things I needed done yesterday, was finally a sunny day here so I took advantage of that, today was rainy so I stayed inside and continue to blaze it up.
Same here. But i gotta got do mine. So, i will catch ya on the flipside. And keep up the good work. One person at a time. We can turn it around. As was said before^^^^ you can't moderate the posts, unless you moderate the poster. But i prefer trying to hash it out rather than QUICKLY banning someone. Obviously if guy pops up with 2 posts saying "Where can I get weed?", instant, unrevocable perma-ban. Otherwise you endanger the community.

Everyone needs to get over their EGO. After all, when someone curses at you, why are you REALLY upset about it? Did it hurt you physically? No. Mentally? Not likely. Emotionally, well for most people today this is where it DOES matter. The EGO. Me. I.

Notice i do my best to NOT capitalize the letter i? While speaking of the importance of good communication skills? Well, i know YOU do, but others may not. SO, it is because the very act of capitalizing the letter i serves to inflate the EGO of man. i see this as one of the largest contributing factor in the downfall of society. When one can take his EGO out of a situation and replace it with a logical mind, I becomes i.

THAT, ladies and gentlemen, is my philosophy on how to be able to live a life that is totally detached from this world. As the sadhus of Nepal say, "Live ON this world, not IN this world."

Once you can TRULY wrap your mind around that single statement, i believe you can live a life devoid not of all strife, hunger, pain, and suffering, but it won't HURT you. Because when your "feelings" get hurt? That's your EGO. And if you take your EGO away, while the constant bickering, rat-race, violence, etc. will still HIT your SOUL, but souls don't feel pain, only EGOS. Think about that for a minute.

Deepak Chopra once said:
"If you want to reach a state of bliss, then go beyond your ego and the internal dialogue. Make a decision to relinquish the need to control, the need to be approved, and the need to judge. Those are the three things the ego is doing all the time. It's very important to be aware of them every time they come up.”


i have followed this for the last six weeks or so. And while i am in the most financially secure position i have EVER been in in my life, unemployed, have a sister stealing scripts from 72year old mom(ARGHHHHhhhhh. Family makes this a difficult philosophy. Well, Mom anyways), refused work for being under educated or over qualified? i am more at peace than at any other time in my life.

i believe in God, but that will have to wait for another post, maybe after i do laundry.

And thank you LostReef. And keep up the good work.
 

LostReefSponger

Active Member
fk the trolls.... been a good day on rui today..
i've found it to be actually quite a productive day on RIU, there were "disagreements" as RollItUp would put it which did in fact lead to some good, mature and intelligent conversations. Step in the right direction if you ask me.
 

MediMary

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what do you guys think would make RIU a better place...


I previously said seperate rep bars, 1 for social posts, 1 for growing info...

I think a ton of flame wars would be avoided with we had a better ignore function, as it is now if you ignore someone everytime someone quotes them you can read that shite... and everywhere they post it big bold letters it says " this message is hidden" or some shite like that...

getting rid of FDDs mod function,
Nobody ever complained about GardenKnown when he was here or the widow maker, or the potroast, gogrow, admin, rollie...(by never I mean like 1 complain a year).

Come on now, just one mod folks complain about, that should tell Rollie something...

Hows about a place where we can leave feedback IN PRIVATE about the mods, cause numerous folks are afraid to say anything otherwise they may get

on fdds bad side, hows about a function where we can report a mod directly to the owner when THEY break the rules...

Hows about gettins some new mods up in here...

Or having all the rules in one place, as Pony pointed out the rule about medical patients only, this technically leaves the mods picking and choosing rules to enforce..
, (although I would believe rollie put that up to be more of covering a liability than anything else...)


I still wonder why the hottest chic thread was closed down, never got ANY type of an answer back, just that it violated the terms of service.

I mean was it cause of the nipple posted way earlier on, and fdd posted 10 posts after the niplle, quoted the nipple and didnt say anything, why close the thread down over a 1000 posts later... but then leave up the hottest dude thread...

thats the unfair enforcment of the rules that bothers me.
why is ok for fdd to call folks names but then someone else says the exact same thing and bam they get in trouble...
 

Serapis

Well-Known Member
Usually, your posts leave me in stitches, but this time I'm awed. I didn't know you had seriousness in you. :) lol :) A good moderator is not seen much, they moderate in the background while interacting as just another user in the threads. We need some of those....

And Poplars, don't lose the faith man. I know you hate me, I don't feel that way about you. I just feel that we can do it differently. If we don;t stoop to their level, they look foolish and move on when they don't get a reaction. I just had a noob counter my suggestion in a post asking how much to water his plants. I advised til he got 10-15% run off.... a guy with less than 100 posts, joined last month, basically states I'm wrong, he only gives 500 ml EVERY day and never has had a problem.... lol... So i just responded with... "hmmm.... how did you monitor PH and what did you do about salt lock outs?" Will he answer? Probably not, but it put him in his place by only making an inquiry i know he has no answers for.

It can be done. Don;t lose the faith.... I used to be a royal ass on these forums with my language and smart ass mouth, kinda like you are now. :) I realized after my last ban that I did not want to lose this resource so I took a chill pill and got smart about it.

Good luck buddy...

there is a way. a simple way. have an unobtrusive moderation team. not invasive. instead of slapping people with infractions and warnings all the time. use good judgement and moderate objectively. it can be done.
 

LostReefSponger

Active Member
what do you guys think would make RIU a better place...


I previously said seperate rep bars, 1 for social posts, 1 for growing info...

I think a ton of flame wars would be avoided with we had a better ignore function, as it is now if you ignore someone everytime someone quotes them you can read that shite... and everywhere they post it big bold letters it says " this message is hidden" or some shite like that...

getting rid of FDDs mod function,
Nobody ever complained about GardenKnown when he was here or the widow maker, or the potroast, gogrow, admin, rollie...(by never I mean like 1 complain a year).

Come on now, just one mod folks complain about, that should tell Rollie something...

Hows about a place where we can leave feedback IN PRIVATE about the mods, cause numerous folks are afraid to say anything otherwise they may get

on fdds bad side, hows about a function where we can report a mod directly to the owner when THEY break the rules...

Hows about gettins some new mods up in here...

Or having all the rules in one place, as Pony pointed out the rule about medical patients only, this technically leaves the mods picking and choosing rules to enforce..
, (although I would believe rollie put that up to be more of covering a liability than anything else...)


I still wonder why the hottest chic thread was closed down, never got ANY type of an answer back, just that it violated the terms of service.

I mean was it cause of the nipple posted way earlier on, and fdd posted 10 posts after the niplle, quoted the nipple and didnt say anything, why close the thread down over a 1000 posts later... but then leave up the hottest dude thread...

thats the unfair enforcment of the rules that bothers me.
why is ok for fdd to call folks names but then someone else says the exact same thing and bam they get in trouble...

Could we maybe even get a rep system for the different sub-forums?

I think that for a person to get an infraction or banned then more than ONE mod should have to suggest that it happen, that way it isn't just one angry mod trying to get back at someone. Also think there should be some kind of appeal of ban system if a mod is allowed to continue a power streak like this. If a certain number of members feel another member is wrongly banned they should have some kind of opinion about it, but only after reaching a certain level in the forum's ranking system.
 

bajafox

Well-Known Member
what do you guys think would make RIU a better place...


I previously said seperate rep bars, 1 for social posts, 1 for growing info....
IMO.

1. Add the dislike button to posts, this way if enough people dislike the post, it can be hidden but still viewed by people who want to.
2. Add negative rep, there are a lot of people who post on forums and really care about their rep level, when they start seeing negative rep they will calm the fuck down
 

MediMary

Well-Known Member
GREAT IDEAS!! now we are talking about making this place better... keep them coming!
Also decrease everyones rep power... ITS WAY TO EASY TO HIT REP BEYOND REPUTE, think it took cryptkeeper like two weeks to hit reputation beyond repute..

I had someone tell me they were proud of everything they had accomplished while here(reffering to their rep bar), I looked through their posts to see what their grows were about, all that OP's plants were in the cannabis infirmary, all fubarded from doing stupid ass shit, I mean stupid shit like watering them with clorox, wasnt even an isolated incident.

I was thinking to myself, you ain't got shit to be proud of homie, you should be ashamed of all the abuse you have put your plants through, the op did share some good social threads, but thats why social rep and actual grow rep should be different....
 

Serapis

Well-Known Member
Those are excellent suggestions. VERY WELL DONE!! Currently, only paying, elite members can give neg rep, but since they aren't currently processing paid membership donations, maybe he'll consider turning that feature on for all of us. that alone would solve the problem.... A "Hidden by community" feature would be nice too for the trolling posts...

IMO.

1. Add the dislike button to posts, this way if enough people dislike the post, it can be hidden but still viewed by people who want to.
2. Add negative rep, there are a lot of people who post on forums and really care about their rep level, when they start seeing negative rep they will calm the fuck down
 

bajafox

Well-Known Member
I have also looked into becoming a paid member but I had no idea that you could ding people by becoming one. That isn't a selling point for me, I only want to become a paid member to help the forum that helped me so much during the last year of growing.
 

LostReefSponger

Active Member
Or, to avoid people abusing the negative rep, after a certain level? Maybe not paid membership but at least the guys that earn the rep (both rep bars if that happens) and are consistently coming back to contribute to the community then they should have that power?
 
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