Police Interactions.
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hanimmal
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The cop was responding to a call of someone jumping on a car.
And this was how he responded to the (first?) guy he comes across? Gun drawn cocked to the side like a kid in the mirror.
Got to love the sweet tight shirt letting his guns out, no chance this guy was pumped up any time he gets out of his car.
Shot 4 times because the cop saw a gun.
(No not the above guy, he killed 2 people and shot a 3rd and is hailed as a hero by Trump, the cops asked him to step out of the way and he left the state and hasn't been back since to face justice for the people he murdered.)
hanimmal
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/10/30/portland-police-burger-barn-possums-teressa-raiford/
There were not many Black-owned businesses in Portland, Ore., in the 1980s.
Albina was one of the few neighborhoods where they existed, including Burger Barn.
Teressa Raiford, whose grandparents George and Geraldine Powe owned the 24-hour eatery, said Burger Barn was a huge part of her childhood. Then, as now, the city was largely White.
“I just remember growing up there,” Raiford said. “My granny making me sandwiches, burgers, putting me to work if I wanted to earn something. ‘How can I earn a burger, Granny?’ And she’d have me go in the back and wash dishes.”
Now Raiford, the 50-year-old head of a nonprofit combating gun violence, is running for mayor as a write-in candidate.
When Portland banned blacks: Oregon’s shameful history as an ‘all-white’ state
The Burger Barn is a memory; the building was torn down in 2017, and an empty lot sits in a neighborhood undergoing gentrification. But four decades ago, the restaurant — and Raiford’s family — became a focal point for citywide protests after a racist incident initiated by police officers.
Dubbed “the opossum incident” by some historians, it unfolded on the evening of March 12, 1981, when a group of White police officers were on patrol near the Burger Barn. They dumped dead possums outside the Black-owned restaurant for the owners and patrons to find.
While two officers later admitted to what they called a “prank,” there are still discrepancies about the number of officers involved and the number of dead possums they left at the Burger Barn.
“At the time, you know, they keep saying that it was four possums. I've seen the pictures my whole life. There were seven possums. My grandmother had seven sons,” Raiford said.
Historically, possums and raccoons were often eaten by enslaved people and later used by White hate groups in death threats against free Black people in the South. George and Geraldine Powe grew up in Missouri and Mississippi and immediately understood the implications of these carcasses at their front door.
“We have to understand throwing deceased animals at this building is a KKK-style threat. People used to throw dead cats at Black homes,” said Tanya March, a Portland architectural historian. “This is something that hate groups do, not something that you expect your police department to do.”
A Black voting rights activist confronts the ghosts of racial terror in North Carolina
Raiford later moved to Texas but returned to Portland with her daughter, Tai Carpenter, nearly 30 years after the incident on a trip that was meant to be temporary. Then, on Sept. 26, 2010, she received the news that her nephew, Andre Dupree Payton, was shot and killed in a gang-related incident. He was 19.
“That’s what changed everything in my life,” said Raiford, who stayed in Portland because of the unanswered questions surrounding her nephew’s death.
She began working closely with other community leaders, and, in 2016, she established “Don’t Shoot PDX,” a nonprofit that aims to tackle gun violence in the city.
But, like many issues in Portland and cities around the United States grappling with racism in 2020, the problem is deeper than what is reflected on the surface. To address something like gun violence, Raiford said, there needs to be an examination of systemic racism in other facets of life for Black people. Many of these policies, Raiford said, must be dismantled.
While Raiford has declared her candidacy for mayor against incumbent Ted Wheeler, the write-in candidate hasn’t spent much time campaigning. She’s busy running her nonprofit and was involved in a lawsuit that contributed to the decision to ban police use of tear gas on protesters over the summer.
Though she isn’t expecting to win the race, Raiford has watched her young supporters take steps to engage the community and fight for systemic changes. Regardless of the election results, Raiford says, she’ll continue her activism, buoyed by incidents like the possums at Burger Barn and her nephew’s death.
As a historian, March says it’s not surprising that the possum incident had ripple effects. “I think it’s interesting that people at the time thought the possum incident would be forgotten in a few weeks. I think that’s pretty systemic of the problem. These things don’t go away. They’re part of a continuing dialogue.”
hanimmal
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GRAHAM, N.C. — Law enforcement officers fired a spray they described as a “pepper-based vapor” that left demonstrators — including children — coughing at an “I Am Change” march for voter turnout.
The racially diverse crowd of about 400 had stopped at a Confederate monument in front of the Alamance County Courthouse on their way to an early-voting site. The monument has been the site of months of clashes between anti-racism activists and self-proclaimed white nationalists.
Members of the march said they were listening to speeches about racial justice and the importance of voting when officers began to yell at them to disperse.
The officers then began firing the spray, according to witnesses. “All the marchers were doing was listening to the lady talk,” said Christopher McCauley, who participated in the event.
In a statement released late Saturday afternoon, Graham police said they made eight arrests. The Alamance County Sheriff’s Office did not respond to a request for information about its arrests.
The Rev. Greg Drumwright of nearby Greensboro, N.C., the march’s organizer, said on a Facebook videoSaturday evening that he was among those arrested and that he had been released and ordered not to return to Graham for 72 hours.
“We’re shaken. We are tattered. We’re torn,” he said. “There are people that did not vote today because the police released tear gas and pepper spray.”
One man was taken into custody after an officer told him to move off the sidewalk.
“Is that why you are going to arrest me — because I’m Black?” he shouted. The officer cuffed him and led him away as activists, watching from across the street, chanted, “Let him go” and “What did he do?”
Kyesha Willis of Burlington, her mother, Angela Willis, and her 3-year-old son were all at the march and were sprayed.
Kyesha Willis said her family had gotten to the monument 10 minutes before police started trying to disperse the crowd.
“I heard people screaming, ‘You can’t be in the road,’ but I wasn’t in the road,” she said. “We walked further and further away but it kept coming at us.” She said she vomited and tried to cover her son’s face.
Supporters of the Confederate memorial watched from outdoor tables at a soda shop on the court square.
One man shouted, “Get off the streets!” A truck with three Trump 2020 flags drove slowly around the courthouse during the rally.
The Graham Police Department said that traffic near the courthouse had backed up when marchers paused quietly at the monument to mark the length of time a police officer kept his knee on George Floyd’s neck after arresting him on a street in Minneapolis.
“The assembly reached a level of conduct that led to the rally being deemed unsafe and unlawful by unified command,” the statement said.
North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper, a Democrat up for reelection, called the incident “unacceptable.”
“Peaceful demonstrators should be able to have their voices heard and voter intimidation in any form cannot be tolerated,” Cooper tweeted.
The march was organized by Drumwright, who planned to lead the group from a Black church to an early-voting site. Participants included relatives of Floyd and the parents of Christian Griggs, a Black man killed by his White father-in-law in North Carolina in 2013.
“I’m out here voting for those who cannot vote today: my son, Christian Griggs, Breonna Taylor, George Floyd, Trayvon Martin and all those others who have died at the hands of police or have had their lives impacted by an injustice,” said Griggs’s mother, Dolly.
The crowd invoked the name of Wyatt Outlaw, a Black town commissioner who in 1870 was kidnapped from his Graham home by the Ku Klux Klan and lynched outside the courthouse, not far from the present-day monument.
hanimmal
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What ever happened to the 'warning shot'?
Yikes. So I 'youtube' searched for some western clip of some cowboy firing off a warning shot, and found all these results:
But based on that one youtube search, it is scary that basically you can imagine people watching those 'self defense' videos radicalizing themselves into firing first based on what they thought was the right thing because they watched some youtube videos.
Scary.
I do think it might actually be helpful for cops to fire off a round (safety at the soft ground, etc) to if nothing else trigger peoples instincts to de-escalate. Because a lot of these police shooting videos, it is no question that they are just immediately going for the body right now.
Feel free to tell me why this would be stupid, I am just curious why it wouldn't be a small start to better policing of our fellow citizens.
Yikes. So I 'youtube' searched for some western clip of some cowboy firing off a warning shot, and found all these results:
I don't know shit about the laws of it but I would think that if it is good enough for the US Navy to fire a warning shot, maybe it is worthwhile for our police to use them more often?
But based on that one youtube search, it is scary that basically you can imagine people watching those 'self defense' videos radicalizing themselves into firing first based on what they thought was the right thing because they watched some youtube videos.
Scary.
I do think it might actually be helpful for cops to fire off a round (safety at the soft ground, etc) to if nothing else trigger peoples instincts to de-escalate. Because a lot of these police shooting videos, it is no question that they are just immediately going for the body right now.
Feel free to tell me why this would be stupid, I am just curious why it wouldn't be a small start to better policing of our fellow citizens.
Fogdog
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I think you already know why this is a dumb idea.
hanimmal
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I imagine ricochet, then maybe have first round a blank. The shooting first and emptying their clip into people needs to stop.
But I also understand a police officer needs to keep themselves safe in dangerous situations.
Fogdog
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Gun toting police officers are only rarely needed. How about if they are replaced with people who are trained to deal with the 95% of calls that do not require their expertise with a gun.
cherrybobeddie
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"Just as every cop is a criminal"
Kieff and Mick
Sympathy for the Devil
Kieff and Mick
Sympathy for the Devil
hanimmal
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https://apnews.com/article/new-york-police-discrimination-workplace-discrimination-bill-de-blasio-705f2a177085e7a5bff060c40e1d928f
NEW YORK (AP) — The head of the New York Police Department’s workplace discrimination office has been relieved of his command while officials investigate allegations that he posted hateful messages to a website where officers air grievances anonymously, the police commissioner said Thursday.
Deputy Inspector James Kobel is accused of penning attacks on Black and Jewish people, women, members of the LGBTQ community and others for more than a year using the pseudonym “Clouseau,” a reference to the bumbling French detective in the “Pink Panther” films.
In messages posted on the website, “Clouseau” referred to Bronx District Attorney Darcel Clark as a “gap-tooth wildebeest,” ridiculed Public Advocate Jumaane Williams for having Tourette’s syndrome, called former President Barack Obama a “Muslim savage” and Mayor Bill de Blasio’s son, Dante, a “brillohead.” All of them are Black.
Commissioner Dermot Shea called the postings “abhorrent” and “utterly disgusting.” Kobel, the commanding officer of the Equal Employment Opportunity Division, could be fired after an internal investigation, Shea said.
Kobel, 50, did not immediately respond to an email sent to his department address seeking comment. No one answered a home telephone number listed for him. He denied being “Clouseau” in an interview with The New York Times, which first reported on the allegations.
“Nonetheless, despite my denial, it will likely end my career,” Kobel told the Times. “Where do I go to get my reputation back?”
The allegations against Kobel were detailed in a report that a City Council oversight panel will make public Friday. City Council investigators linked the messages to Kobel by matching information in the “Clouseau” messages to publicly available details about Kobel’s life and career.
The NYPD said it received a draft of the report on Oct. 14 and immediately started an internal probe. Kobel has cooperated with the investigation, Shea said.
Kobel was relieved of command and placed on modified assignment this week.
“That is a drastic step, but we thought it would be an appropriate step due to the nature of his assignment, as well as the allegations and what we have learned so far,” Shea told reporters.
Kobel, a 28-year member of the department, was the second-in-command in the Equal Employment Opportunity office for four years before being elevated to commanding officer in May.
The office is responsible for preventing and investigating employment and harassment claims and has implemented policy changes in recent years providing for lactation rooms, enabling officers to wear religious head coverings and making accommodations for transgender officers.
NEW YORK (AP) — The head of the New York Police Department’s workplace discrimination office has been relieved of his command while officials investigate allegations that he posted hateful messages to a website where officers air grievances anonymously, the police commissioner said Thursday.
Deputy Inspector James Kobel is accused of penning attacks on Black and Jewish people, women, members of the LGBTQ community and others for more than a year using the pseudonym “Clouseau,” a reference to the bumbling French detective in the “Pink Panther” films.
In messages posted on the website, “Clouseau” referred to Bronx District Attorney Darcel Clark as a “gap-tooth wildebeest,” ridiculed Public Advocate Jumaane Williams for having Tourette’s syndrome, called former President Barack Obama a “Muslim savage” and Mayor Bill de Blasio’s son, Dante, a “brillohead.” All of them are Black.
Commissioner Dermot Shea called the postings “abhorrent” and “utterly disgusting.” Kobel, the commanding officer of the Equal Employment Opportunity Division, could be fired after an internal investigation, Shea said.
Kobel, 50, did not immediately respond to an email sent to his department address seeking comment. No one answered a home telephone number listed for him. He denied being “Clouseau” in an interview with The New York Times, which first reported on the allegations.
“Nonetheless, despite my denial, it will likely end my career,” Kobel told the Times. “Where do I go to get my reputation back?”
The allegations against Kobel were detailed in a report that a City Council oversight panel will make public Friday. City Council investigators linked the messages to Kobel by matching information in the “Clouseau” messages to publicly available details about Kobel’s life and career.
The NYPD said it received a draft of the report on Oct. 14 and immediately started an internal probe. Kobel has cooperated with the investigation, Shea said.
Kobel was relieved of command and placed on modified assignment this week.
“That is a drastic step, but we thought it would be an appropriate step due to the nature of his assignment, as well as the allegations and what we have learned so far,” Shea told reporters.
Kobel, a 28-year member of the department, was the second-in-command in the Equal Employment Opportunity office for four years before being elevated to commanding officer in May.
The office is responsible for preventing and investigating employment and harassment claims and has implemented policy changes in recent years providing for lactation rooms, enabling officers to wear religious head coverings and making accommodations for transgender officers.
hanimmal
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https://apnews.com/article/pittsburgh-michigan-fugitives-us-news-martin-luther-king-jr-62ba15dd94a88c5b952fe89ae7096545
PITTSBURGH (AP) — A man who was serving a life sentence for murder when he escaped custody while attending his grandmother’s funeral nearly 50 years ago has been arrested in Michigan, the FBI announced Friday.
Leonard Rayne Moses was 16 when he was convicted in the 1968 killing of Mary Amplo during civil unrest in Pittsburgh following the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. Authorities said Moses and his friends fire-bombed Amplo’s house. Badly burned, Amplo, 72, died a few months later.
Moses was convicted of first-degree murder and was sentenced to life without parole. He escaped from custody while attending his grandmother’s 1971 funeral in Pittsburgh. Authorities said he wound up in Michigan, where he was living under the assumed name of Paul Dickson and had been working as a traveling pharmacist since at least 1999.
The FBI caught up to Moses after he was charged earlier this year with stealing prescription painkillers from a pharmacy in St. Clair Shores, Michigan, where he worked, authorities said. Moses’ fingerprints were entered into a nationwide database in October, and they matched the prints from his 1968 arrest, the FBI said.
An FBI fugitive task force arrested Moses without incident Thursday at his home in Grand Blanc, Michigan, Special Agent in Charge Michael Christman of the FBI Pittsburgh’s office said at a news conference Friday.
“I know the arresting officers yelled the name ‘Moses’ and they got a response,” he said.
Moses was being held in the Genesee County Jail pending extradition. It wasn’t clear if he had a lawyer.
PITTSBURGH (AP) — A man who was serving a life sentence for murder when he escaped custody while attending his grandmother’s funeral nearly 50 years ago has been arrested in Michigan, the FBI announced Friday.
Leonard Rayne Moses was 16 when he was convicted in the 1968 killing of Mary Amplo during civil unrest in Pittsburgh following the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. Authorities said Moses and his friends fire-bombed Amplo’s house. Badly burned, Amplo, 72, died a few months later.
Moses was convicted of first-degree murder and was sentenced to life without parole. He escaped from custody while attending his grandmother’s 1971 funeral in Pittsburgh. Authorities said he wound up in Michigan, where he was living under the assumed name of Paul Dickson and had been working as a traveling pharmacist since at least 1999.
The FBI caught up to Moses after he was charged earlier this year with stealing prescription painkillers from a pharmacy in St. Clair Shores, Michigan, where he worked, authorities said. Moses’ fingerprints were entered into a nationwide database in October, and they matched the prints from his 1968 arrest, the FBI said.
An FBI fugitive task force arrested Moses without incident Thursday at his home in Grand Blanc, Michigan, Special Agent in Charge Michael Christman of the FBI Pittsburgh’s office said at a news conference Friday.
“I know the arresting officers yelled the name ‘Moses’ and they got a response,” he said.
Moses was being held in the Genesee County Jail pending extradition. It wasn’t clear if he had a lawyer.
American police and Americans current president are 2 great reasons why I don't live there
hanimmal
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Cop pulls his buddy off the guy on the ground, who is all angry looking about it.
Until he looks back at the camera his buddy just stopped him from being recorded beating on someone. The first cop must have forgot to tell him to not look.
Especially because then he looks at the camera that was about to capture some more police brutality.
