Red Dragon & Magic Bud - First CFL grow using "Buds for Less" light set-up

MasterHemp said:

I didn't use any rockwool cubes for the bubble cloner, i use something similar to the one in the picture View attachment 1305898

I let the stems sit just above the water so the bubbles are popping on them, misting them, too far above the water and the bubbles wont be popping on the stem you will know the sweet spot I have noticed that it takes a little longer for the ones submerged in the water to root but not by much, i didn't use a humidity dome at all i wonder if i could have gotten roots quicker if i had but i didn't really need it, i just gave them a mist once or twice a day and it worked like a charm hehe

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hey G.O.D hows everything comin along? hoe alls well

.....HEy Bro, just thought I would stop by and let you know I am here, just read through your post and am now convinced that I am going to be using this method for my cross breeding program......Havent quite yet decided on my strains yet, but I have time on my hands and will get to it soon enough.......+rep for the info for sure. Subbed......

happy new year G.O.D xx

rastadred22 said:

hey G.O.D hows everything comin along? hoe alls well

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Hey Rasta - everything is SLOWLY progressing, my initial grow is around 8 weeks of flowering now and has 2 to 3 weeks to go.
Not expecting much weight from it due to the numerous issues I had - but it is definitely going to be better than nothing
I have just put my second grow (Red Dragon) under 12/12 and although it is also in soil and is a bit stunted, I expect much better performance than the first.
Also have 4 clones of Magic Bud in Hempy pots which will be put into 12/12 as soon as my first grow is done (2 - 3 weeks).
I am also growing a couple of clones of L.S.D. which won't be flowered for 10 weeks or so as they have to wait for the second Red Dragon grow to finish.
My Red Dragon seed plants are fattening up the seeds - probably 2 to 3 weeks left.
So, things are keeping me busy.
How is life for you - keeping busy?

fabodnickMD said:

.....HEy Bro, just thought I would stop by and let you know I am here, just read through your post and am now convinced that I am going to be using this method for my cross breeding program......Havent quite yet decided on my strains yet, but I have time on my hands and will get to it soon enough.......+rep for the info for sure. Subbed......

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Thanks for the feedback - making feminised seeds is real easy - the full information is in the link in my sig.
From now on I will just be using a clone to turn male and pollinating a branch on each of my scrog grows - no need to grow seperate plants to carry the seeds ... and no space for so many plants.

Agent Provocateur said:

happy new year G.O.D xx

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Why thanks you AP, I hope that the new year brings you great things (and a little warmth).

damn that sux but at least u got some good stuff goin for ya...but ya man been real busy in my garden got some new additions as soon as they arrive...afghan hindu kush and barneys farm pineapple chunk

rastadred22 said:

damn that sux but at least u got some good stuff goin for ya...but ya man been real busy in my garden got some new additions as soon as they arrive...afghan hindu kush and barneys farm pineapple chunk

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The knowledge gained from my first grow is far more valuable than a few extra grams of bud, most important lesson learnt is that soil sux and hempy is where I need to be.

Great to see you with some new genetics on their way - Pineapple Chunk is one that I will grow this year - have 5 fem seeds waiting for their turn.

Screen #1
Red Dragon - 3 weeks to go - to be replaced by Magic Bud followed by White Widow (Green House Seeds)

Screen #2
Red Dragon - 10 weeks to go - followed by L.S.D. and maybe Pineapple Chunk after that.

Having fun with my timing - trying to get the two screens finishing 6 weeks apart but not got my timing right yet.

I forgot to mention, I am getting ready to produce a multi-grafted mother plant.
By the end of January it should be established and be carrying two different L.S.D. phenos (one definitely indica and the other has a lot of sativa), Red Dragon and Magic Bud.
I'll be keeping multi-grafted mothers and producing feminised seeds as a back-up.

I tried to germinate a seed of "The Church" but it didn't germinate - either bad luck or it was one of the crappy "The Church" seeds that Green House Seeds has had serious issues with.
Hopefully the rest of my single seed strains do better.

damn man! sounds real good! i wanna do a multi graft aswell! been graftin citrus for a while so i wanted to do a multi strain graft and bud out a 3 maybe 4 different strain tree...i need to go bac away in my medical grow room be4 i do that. i cant wait to see it keep us posted best of luck!....and happy new year

Grumpy Old Dreamer said:

no need to grow seperate plants to carry the seeds ... and no space for so many plants.

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.........Happy New Year Grumps, just got back in and I had a thought....I think I am going to put together a 1'X1'X2'grow box and just turn one plant, harvest the pollen and use it when and where, would you have a good inkling as to the "true" ( or reasonable argument to the fact of said truth...ha) shelf life for harvested pollen? I have read several angles on it and was wondering what your take on it is?

I too have read numerous articles - and I refuse to think that anything on these forums has any basis in facts ... just often repeated guesses and bullshit.
Plenty of information online but most (if not all) relates to specific plant types ... orchids, day lillies etc - any cannabis related information is probably burried so deep in forum trash that any facts are long since lost.

I will be experimenting with pollen storage, but obviously any results won't be known until the pollen that I use is found to be no longer viable.

I can offer advice & opinions though.

Store clean dry pollen (with a little silica gel) in airtight glass vials/bottles in a freezer.
Store only enough pollen for one application in each bottle - therefore you won't be resealing and refreezing pollen bottles once opened.
Let the bottle of pollen come to room temperature before opening - avoids any pollen damage due to water condensation.

You can buy small bottles/vials off eBay - if you store 20 samples of the same pollen and use them one at a time, you will probably be able to let me know how long it remains viable

Under perfect dry, dark and cold conditions I would expect a degree of viability for a year or three.

I plan to hopefully always have each strain on a multi-grafted mother, so when I need pollen I will just grow a clone and turn it male. This way I will be able to recreate the same pollen time and time again, allowing me to constantly back-cross future seeds with the original mother/father.

I love this hobby

Grumpy Old Dreamer said:

I love this hobby

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.....no Doubt, I am enthused myself by the possibility of at some point finding the "perfect" combo....though I am quite sure that those that have come before me have the foundations of genus built quite solid. I wont get obsessed with strain variations until I at least master some back-breeding of one (at this point OG-Kush) Strain.

Just a quick pikkie of the poor stunted excuse for a plant

Still has about 2 weeks left (that will make it 11 weeks flowering) the first few amber trichomes are starting to appear and I certainly won't be letting it go beyond 25% to 30% amber - I prefer "high" rather than "stoned".

I wont get obsessed with strain variations until I at least master some back-breeding of one (at this point OG-Kush) Strain.

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I doubt that I will worry too much about strain variations, I'll just grow grow lots of strains that are totally different - although, I do plan on back crossing the feminised seeds that I am making with the same pollen that created them ... just to see what happens

I have just started a new thread "Ramblings of a Grumpy Old Dreamer" which basically continues where this thread is leaving off.

that aint looking too bad at all hun i know what ya mean about stunted though my lsd doesnt seem to be growing much at all and im on week 10- pistils not changing at all really yet on any of my plants- lucky i had the euforia to tide me over- although half of that plant is still going I would like a go at breeding too ( if i had a male) but i really havent got an alternative grow space at the moment- heres hoping for some cracking outdoor weather this year so i can try my hand at outdoor

Agent Provocateur said:

that aint looking too bad at all hun i know what ya mean about stunted though my lsd doesnt seem to be growing much at all and im on week 10- pistils not changing at all really yet on any of my plants- lucky i had the euforia to tide me over- although half of that plant is still going I would like a go at breeding too ( if i had a male) but i really havent got an alternative grow space at the moment- heres hoping for some cracking outdoor weather this year so i can try my hand at outdoor

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Thanks AyePee.

I have heard that L.S.D. keeps its pistils white and fresh for a long time.
My L.S.D. grow has to wait about 10 weeks before a flowering space is available, I can't wait to compare the two L.S.D. phenotypes that I have.

You don't need a lot of space to make a bit of pollen for breeding - have a look at the Colloidal Silver thread, my "male" lived in my flowering chamber alongside my ladies.

I might just try that next time right now im having a prob with curing- as soon as i put it into jars the usual weed smell kind of disappears and gets replaced by a sickly sweet smell the buds themselves when i take them out dont really smell of anything at all- however if i transfer them to my tin in small amounts for smoking the smell comes back a bit- so am i putting them into jars too early and the humidity that accumulates before burping is making them smell weird?

Harvest yet man? Lookin good by the way. I have a Red Dragon going in my grow and It smells wonderful gonna start week 8 tomorrow. How are the tric's at week 11?

dirtypussyhole said:

Harvest yet man? Lookin good by the way. I have a Red Dragon going in my grow and It smells wonderful gonna start week 8 tomorrow. How are the tric's at week 11?

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That plant was insanely stunted, poisoned and abused for most of it's life and only gave up 10g of bud - but such nice smoke it is

It definitely lost its scent towards the end but is bouncing back during curing. I loved the scent during the first 6 weeks or so of flowering.

I cut it at one day short of 10 weeks, no flush and nothing fancy, just chopped and hung to dry.

The trichomes were only about 5% amber, mostly cloudy with maybe 10% still clear - I like my sativa doms to be heady (and it sure is).

My second Red Dragon SCROG will give me 3 or 4 times as much bud, but still less than it could produce beacuse of the shitty soil and stunted growth - but I am looking at 30+ small colas so I'll be happy.

I'll definitely be growing Red Dragon many times in the future - great smoke.

10gs???? Man, pics can be deceiving looked like more there. Anyways Ive heard nothing but great smoke from the Red Dragon and thats why I ordered so I can't wait to smoke. After 7 weeks almost every hair is still white so I know its gotta ways to go and the buds just keep growin. Good luck and thanks for the info By the way I hate that damn bad soil I actually started mine RD in junk soil, transplanted to bad soil, and then finally threw it in some fox farms all this before it's second or third set of leaves and it really grew well once in proper soil. I was just glad it survived and didn't hermie like i've seen some peoples do on here.

Yea, 10g wasn't a lot but after what that poor plant went through I suppose I'm lucky I didn't kill it. Really nice smoke though, and it hasn't done cureing yet.

Grumpy Old Dreamer said:

That plant was insanely stunted, poisoned and abused for most of it's life and only gave up 10g of bud - but such nice smoke it is

It definitely lost its scent towards the end but is bouncing back during curing. I loved the scent during the first 6 weeks or so of flowering.

I cut it at one day short of 10 weeks, no flush and nothing fancy, just chopped and hung to dry.

The trichomes were only about 5% amber, mostly cloudy with maybe 10% still clear - I like my sativa doms to be heady (and it sure is).

My second Red Dragon SCROG will give me 3 or 4 times as much bud, but still less than it could produce beacuse of the shitty soil and stunted growth - but I am looking at 30+ small colas so I'll be happy.

I'll definitely be growing Red Dragon many times in the future - great smoke.

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Im wondering if i poisoned mine- My LSD's havent really bulked up and stayed the same since roughly week 5-6 they are a very dark green- the leaves seem brittle and hardly any pistils yet its still very frosty- the rest of the plants are lagging a bit but not looking bad but saying that all of them should be finished by now as im at 12 weeks!! and the PC's look like they could go another 2 Really dunno what i done wrong .