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Token

Token

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Whats the right thing to do in a time of war! sing up and do your time, or be a rich kid and totally ignore it? Most of my friends believe I'm doing this because I have nowhere else to go, but let me a sure you that's not the case. I am probably the farthest from nowhere else to go, but I am thinking of singing up for the Army to do my duty. Even Prince Henry did he's tours in Afghanistan, what makes some Americans think they shouldn't do there duties. Is it most of us are spoiled and have no disciple nor respect. Are is it that we are just lazy asses and thats why we smoke, to make us feel better about are small unimportant excuses for lives. How many people are actually going somewhere in their lives and not chasing cars like a stupid dog? I think everyone should do at least one tour, especially if your an immigrant. Just some thoughts
 
Token

Token

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NewGrowth said:
Don't support the military man. Respectable people are men of Peace not War.
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It's not of support, I just fill it's an American tradition to be in the Army for at least one tour. My Grandfather did my Great Grandfather did and My Great Great Great Grandfather was Commander and Chief of this great land and got us Florida.
 
TheBrutalTruth

TheBrutalTruth

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Token said:
Whats the right thing to do in a time of war! sing up and do your time, or be a rich kid and totally ignore it? Most of my friends believe I'm doing this because I have nowhere else to go, but let me a sure you that's not the case. I am probably the farthest from nowhere else to go, but I am thinking of singing up for the Army to do my duty. Even Prince Henry did he's tours in Afghanistan, what makes some Americans think they shouldn't do there duties. Is it most of us are spoiled and have no disciple nor respect. Are is it that we are just lazy asses and thats why we smoke, to make us feel better about are small unimportant excuses for lives. How many people are actually going somewhere in their lives and not chasing cars like a stupid dog? I think everyone should do at least one tour, especially if your an immigrant. Just some thoughts
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Do whatever you want man, don't let me, or any one else tell you what you should do.

Be your own boss.

Though, I definitely agree with your opinion about the ennui rampant in our culture, but imo that's the government's fault. If people were free we'd be able to do what we want, and thus we wouldn't be held down by wondering just what the heck we are actually allowed to do with out violating some obscure law.

If you do enlist, my respect. It's not the military's fault that they are being used improperly, and that failure of policy does not, or rather should not, result in those that decide to enlist being treated with any less respect.

Anyway... like I said, be your own boss.
 
old pothead

old pothead

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NewGrowth said:
Don't support the military man. Respectable people are men of Peace not War.
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What a load of crap.So everyone who is willing to give their life and fight to preserve your rights so you can sit on your azz and make stupid statements like you made is not respectable.What a waste of human flesh.
I served my time in the military so people like you can enjoy the freedoms you have,but instead of showing gratitude for those who have the balls to do their duty,you dishonor them.I like war as much as the next guy,but i will stand and fight for what i believe is right.OPH
 
NewGrowth

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old pothead said:
What a load of crap.So everyone who is willing to give their life and fight to preserve your rights so you can sit on your azz and make stupid statements like you made is not respectable.What a waste of human flesh.
I served my time in the military so people like you can enjoy the freedoms you have,but instead of showing gratitude for those who have the balls to do their duty,you dishonor them.I like war as much as the next guy,but i will stand and fight for what i believe is right.OPH
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Never said any of that. My father is in the military and many of my good friend have been shipped off to Iraq.

Why should future generations join the military and experience pure hell for someone else's greedy agenda? It's simple don't encourage your children to join the military or anyone else for that matter.

We should be educating children and exposing them to the arts not sending them off to war.:peace:
 
Biggravy22

Biggravy22

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What a load of crap. People fight for causes they believe in. If you can't get behind a cause why in the hell would I get behind the trigger of a gun? I respect humanity and fighting over something material doesn't interest me at all. As a matter of fact it sickens me.
From what you're saying we're all lazy, good for nothing, spoiled brats if we don't join the military? Your friends are right. The military is all you have. If you had other options you'd pursue those.Instead you're looking for an out, and the ARMY is it. So don't come on here lecturing people about there lack of patriotism because of your own personal confusion.
 
Bud Frosty

Bud Frosty

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Having done my time in the military, I wouldn't trade it for anything. Get out in the world and experience what really goes on. I've seen things and done things that I never would have thanks to Uncle Sam.
 
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weedaweedaweed

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You shouldn't join because a hierarchically organized, mass-conscription based military system is contrary to the values of liberal democracy. No one has the right to order others to kill, or to kill on command. Anyone committed to peace and social order should not submit to such an authority.

Also, prince Harry is a neo-nazi who plays too much call of duty.
 
BackDoorMan

BackDoorMan

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I would only join If I agreed with the cause.. If we were fighting the nazi's or some oppressive country that's killing other people.. then yeah, sign me up, gimme a gun and point me in the right direction.. but this war.. is fuckin silly and stupid.. there's no clear good guy and bad guy.. and nobody can tell us what we're fighting for...

Not our safety.. cause if we were fighting for our safety we would prolly be focusing more on our shit and not other people's shit..

I don;t protect my home by going to other people's house's and fuckin their shit up.. I do it by securing my home and my possessions.. at home..
 
Daisy

Daisy

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I think it would be a good thing. I served my country and enjoyed every minute, met good people, got to see some of the world, learned alot. I'm just glad that there are still people like you in America. America may have it faults, but I still wouldn't want to live anywhere else.

If you join, I would suggest the Air Force. But you will have quit smoking, that's the only bad thing.
 
Bud Frosty

Bud Frosty

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Daisy said:
I think it would be a good thing. I served my country and enjoyed every minute, met good people, got to see some of the world, learned alot. I'm just glad that there are still people like you in America. America may have it faults, but I still wouldn't want to live anywhere else.
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I agree. I wish people would quit believing every 2 minute soundbite they hear on the evening news.
 
Biggravy22

Biggravy22

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Bud Frosty said:
I agree. I wish people would quit believing every 2 minute soundbite they hear on the evening news.
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What two minute soundbites would those be? I'm curious to hear it. Because everything I see on television dealing with the military talks about how great it is. It isn't the Military experience that deters people, it's the politics involved.
 
juststartin

juststartin

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im in the uk and have 2 of my best mates in the army (one has been afgan & going again in october and one is there now). Very scary stuff, if you didnt think what was going on was right u would after a few weeks in the army. They basically brain wash u, the pair of them have views they didnt have before they signed up but they obviously know a lot more about it than i do.

But they certainly can't train/brain wash u to deal with the guilt of killing someone.
 
Bud Frosty

Bud Frosty

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Biggravy22 said:
What two minute soundbites would those be? I'm curious to hear it. Because everything I see on television dealing with the military talks about how great it is. It isn't the Military experience that deters people, it's the politics involved.
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Exactly. Politics aside, the military is a great experience. The evening news deals in doom and gloom. And any of the politicians you see on it, dem or rep, are just spin spin lie lie I'm the greatest and have done no wrong.
 
old pothead

old pothead

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NewGrowth said:
Never said any of that. My father is in the military and many of my good friend have been shipped off to Iraq.

Why should future generations join the military and experience pure hell for someone else's greedy agenda? It's simple don't encourage your children to join the military or anyone else for that matter.

We should be educating children and exposing them to the arts not sending them off to war.:peace:
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I do not agree with the war Little Bush drug us into.If butthead Bush would have went after the people involed instead of invading a country that was not involed,i would have supported it.
I do not agree with what most of our leaders(i use the word leaders loosly)do,That is OUR fault for putting them in power.But to say not to join the army because of that, leaves our country open to invasion by nations we do not want as our leaders.With that kind of attitude we will all be praying to ALLAH.I feel we should adopt the same system that Israel has,this is OUR country,we should have to fight to defend it if needed.Not just the willing few,ALL OF US.
Not all people want peace and harmony,look around the world and see how many countries would love to take what we have.Peace in the world would be a beautiful thing,but we do not have control over what happens in other countries.As long as we have enemies we will need a military to defend our country and way of life.
With you having a father who is serving our country,i would think you would understand why he does it.
Thank him for his service,and may he stay safe.
I hope it never comes to a bunch of art students having to defend this country from attack,we will be screwed.OPH
 
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