romney committed a federal felony?

redivider

Well-Known Member
What proof do you have that Romney lied to anyone, here I'll save ya some time, none!
Your interpretation of Bain Capital's leveraged buyouts is ridiculous, as a rule, the target companies were operating in the red and were far from being in good financial standing.
that is not true.

the purpose of a leveraged buyout is to increase your low cost borrowing potential. you cannot buy a company that's 'in the red' and borrow against it. it has to be a company in fairly good standing in terms of cash flow and quick ratios....

guess who went to business school?

you can google it as well...
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
I have no idea how much charity he got, I never heard of any charities for him (not my fault) and if he had personal responsibility he would have had insurance. Frankly, Since I'm not aRon 'the bigot" Paul fan I never heard of the guy until you mentioned his name. I do know that insurance or not he could have walked into any ER and been treated. Either way, it wasn't the federal government's job to take care of him and without government interference he may have had better care.

Ron Paul didnt offer insurance for his staff

What little care he got was as the result of the goverment getting involved
 

SisterMaryElephant

Active Member
Ron Paul didnt offer insurance for his staff

What little care he got was as the result of the goverment getting involved
1) Nobody forced him to work for Ron "The bigot" Paul.

2) He could have purchased his own insurance which would have been cheaper if it weren't for government interference.

So, if you understood personal responsibility, you'd see he failed in that area.


As to charity, like I said, I have no idea but if the government wasn't involved people would have more money to donate to charities. BTW, conservatives give more to charity than liberals too. ;)

Since you seem to be the expert on the guy, what kind "governmental" care did he get? Federal or State?
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
1) Nobody forced him to work for Ron "The bigot" Paul.
The goverment didnt stop Ron Paul from offering insurance, exact opposite. The goverment encourages it

2) He could have purchased his own insurance which would have been cheaper if it weren't for government interference.
Inusrance company could of denied him coverage for a pre-existing condition. Something his family brought up as a reason for him not having insurance
Obamacare now makes that practice illegal

So, if you understood personal responsibility, you'd see he failed in that area.
I understand personal responsibilty
Everyone should have 400k in the bank for any unseen medical crisis's. You got 400k in the bank?




As to charity, like I said, I have no idea but if the government wasn't involved people would have more money to donate to charities. BTW, conservatives give more to charity than liberals too. ;)

Since you seem to be the expert on the guy, what kind "governmental" care did he get? Federal or State?
Medicare and Medicaid where the direct result of Charitys not being able to provide

You do not make any sense at all
 

tomahawk2406

Well-Known Member
No you didn't say anything about Obama, I did, ya having a hard time figuring that out?
And if there's one thing I've figured out about progressive lefties, their tough talk attitude is contained on the internet.
is that what you learned? while on the internet yourself?

yah........cool story bro
 

2xcharming

Active Member
I can't vote for a man dumb enough to strap his dog to the roof of his car. Any parent who taken a "family" road trip knows the roof is where you strap the kids.
 

beenthere

New Member
that is not true.

the purpose of a leveraged buyout is to increase your low cost borrowing potential. you cannot buy a company that's 'in the red' and borrow against it. it has to be a company in fairly good standing in terms of cash flow and quick ratios....

guess who went to business school?

you can google it as well...
You're drunk my friend, the only thing a leveraged buyout is, is the purchase of a corporations controlling interest by means of borrowed money. And after the target company is heavily invested by the private equity sponsors, you can easily borrow against the target companies holding assets. Many companies operate in the red at one time or another but have an abundant amount of assets, most of the airlines, oil companies and the farming industry to name a few.
 

SisterMaryElephant

Active Member
You do not make any sense at all
I wouldn't expect personal responsibility to make sense to you. RP doesn't have to provide insurance, it was still his choice to work there knowing there was no insurance.

Could have? You said he didn't have any insurance and pneumonia isn't a pre-existing condition. Just make up whatever you want... :roll:

Or insurance. I have insurance.

Medicare and medicaid are 2 of the socialist entitlement programs that are mostly responsible for our declining economic situation. How much care do you think your intrusive government is going to be able to provide in the future if it's broke due to all of your spending?
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
How much care do you think your intrusive government is going to be able to provide in the future if it's broke due to all of your spending?
more (f)right wing fear mongering.

we're not going broke unless we keep electing business men presidents like hoover, shrub, or romney.
 

beenthere

New Member
Anyone with half a brain could figure out that if this story had any teeth, Eric Holder would have already launched a federal investigation and it would have been plastered all over the news.
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
Anyone with half a brain could figure out that if this story had any teeth, Eric Holder would have already launched a federal investigation and it would have been plastered all over the news.
Question????
Who did you want before Romney was forced upon you ???
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
Medicare and medicaid are 2 of the socialist entitlement programs that are mostly responsible for our declining economic situation.
could you explain this with some facts, numbers, and links....Right now it just seems as though you are typing just to do so

Back up your argument with data..Thanks
 

noxiously

Well-Known Member
I wouldn't expect personal responsibility to make sense to you. RP doesn't have to provide insurance, it was still his choice to work there knowing there was no insurance.

Could have? You said he didn't have any insurance and pneumonia isn't a pre-existing condition. Just make up whatever you want... :roll:

Or insurance. I have insurance.

Medicare and medicaid are 2 of the socialist entitlement programs that are mostly responsible for our declining economic situation. How much care do you think your intrusive government is going to be able to provide in the future if it's broke due to all of your spending?

You do know that medicare and medicaid are mainly used by the elderly right? So sure, lets cut out both of those "socialist" ideas, so we can save some money and just let the old people die. What happens when mom and dad can't take care of themselves anymore? Are you going to take "personal responsibility" and give them 24 hr. care? Are you going to quit your job so you can take care of them on a full time basis. Nope. Not saying you don't love your parents, but people have to work. So what happens to mom and dad then? Oh well, let em die right because they can't take care of themselves anymore. They must not be important anymore since mom has to be in a wheel chair and piss in a bag. I've worked in the health care field for 20 years now, all in nursing homes, and I see what the majority of Americans do with their parents. When the going gets tough, they shove them into a home for someone else to take care of them, and do you know how much it costs a month at an average nursing home? Just for the room alone you are looking at a minimum of $3,500 a month for a room that they share with another person, and the only privacy they have is a curtain. And who do you think pays for that? Where I work, we have 170 residents, we only have 4 or 5 people who pay privately, about 5 people who's insurance pays, and the rest is the government. So sure, lets cut out these "Socialist" programs, how many people in the health care field would be without a job? How many old people would die because these asshole right wing nut jobs want to yell "Personal Responsibility", and "Charity". Bi@#h please...... charity doesn't work because the majority of us Americans are too greedy to help others out anymore. Sure it sounds nice and all, but how much do you donate to good causes every year? How much of your own money goes towards feeding someone elses kid? And you know what, the taxes the government takes out of all of our paychecks is basically for charity right? Isn't that what it does? Welfare and Food Stamps is a charity that's basically run by the government. So what's so wrong with letting the government get some of your money for that? Oh, it's because you want to have the say in how much you donate, and I'm pretty sure you wouldn't donate on your own free will.


Call me crazy, but isn't auto insurance required? Nobody seems to care about when that became a requirement.

Requiring health care isn't a bad thing, if you actually think about it. If you opt to not have health insurance, and you get sick, what do you do? You sure as hell can't afford to go to the Dr. unless of course you make $100,000 a year. Lets say you break your leg because you slipped on some ice because the government decided to stop salting the roads because "personal responsibility" should take care of that. You go to the ER, how can you pay for that? You can't, unless again, you make an enormous amount of money. So you go to the ER, get an X-Ray, get a cast put on your leg, and the bill will be atleast $1,000. The required insurance that you have will pay the majority of that, leaving you with a smaller bill that is more manageable. Wouldn't hospitals make more money if more people had insurance? Yes, and no one can deny that. In theory, if hospitals made more money, they could grow, they could give bigger raises, hire more people, which in turn will eventually help the economy.


Putting more money in the hands and pockets of the American people, is what drives the economy upwards. When people have more money they spend more, when people spend more, it creates a demand, when there is a demand there has to be a business to supply that demand, there also has to be a business to supply the raw goods for those demands, and those raw goods have to go somewhere and that's to factories, which all of these companies need what....people....which means more people with jobs, with money, turns into the economy growing. Economics 101, go back to school, stop listening to Faux news, and you may learn something. If the government can help people by giving them food stamps, they have more money in their pocket to spend on other things.
 

SisterMaryElephant

Active Member
could you explain this with some facts, numbers, and links....Right now it just seems as though you are typing just to do so

Back up your argument with data..Thanks
Did the libtards backup that we can keep spending as long as liberals are in control?

Can't do anything for yourself?


http://www.heritage.org/federalbudget/federal-spending-dependence-programs


"More than 70 Percent of Federal Spending Goes to Dependence Programs
Government dependence is driving budget deficits and federal debt. More than 70 percent of federal spending goes to 47 government dependence programs, including housing, farm subsidies, and the three largest entitlements, Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security."
 

SisterMaryElephant

Active Member
You do know that medicare and medicaid are mainly used by the elderly right?

Call me crazy, but isn't auto insurance required? Nobody seems to care about when that became a requirement.

Requiring health care isn't a bad thing, if you actually think about it.
Yes...that doesn't change the facts.

You're crazy. The Federal government doesn't require auto insurance. States do.

It's bad when the federal government does it, which is why obamacare will be repealed...
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
Did the libtards backup that we can keep spending as long as liberals are in control?

Can't do anything for yourself?


http://www.heritage.org/federalbudget/federal-spending-dependence-programs


"More than 70 Percent of Federal Spending Goes to Dependence Programs
Government dependence is driving budget deficits and federal debt. More than 70 percent of federal spending goes to 47 government dependence programs, including housing, farm subsidies, and the three largest entitlements, Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security."
Heritage group really ...ROTFLMAO@U
 
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