Ron Paul Has A Legit Shot.

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UncleBuck

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deprave said:
uh...his advisors are very smart actually..Bruce Fein the ingenious constitutional lawyer as an example. I don't think any of his advisors had something to do with a a newsletter while he wasn't even in politics, this was just a guess of mine..at least he wouldn't pick goldman sachs ceo's like obama
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deprave said:
I agree this is stupid, so what else you got?
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let's talk about his advisers, since that is also my main beef with obama.

let's talk about one of his truly intelligent advisers, kent synder.

how do you think kent snyder fits in with ron paul's idea of america?

:lol:
 
deprave

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Do you like goldman sachs and jp morgan's vision for america or something? Look at obama's staff, look at the corporate funding.
 
Dan Kone

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deprave said:
uh...his advisors are very smart actually..Bruce Fein the ingenious constitutional lawyer as an example. I don't think any of his advisors had something to do with a a newsletter while he wasn't even in politics, this was just a guess of mine..at least he wouldn't pick goldman sachs ceo's like obama
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It's a judgement issue.
 
deprave

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UncleBuck said:
let's talk about his advisers, since that is also my main beef with obama.

let's talk about one of his truly intelligent advisers, kent synder.

how do you think kent snyder fits in with ron paul's idea of america?

:lol:
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More YellowCrap:

Ron Paul never said people are free to suffer and die. He asked why does the government have to take money from someone and give it to another person.

The whole story is shameful. Mr. Snyder did not have health insurance but unlike many yellow journalism articles suggest he got plenty of health coverage. Where did that 400,000 medical bill come from? Looks like he got all that health coverage for free also. One band-aid or a large tab in the commissary? Looks like he got all that health coverage for free also.

His family is under no obligation to pay for those bills and they should not pay for them. Finally, the man died of a virus for which there is no cure. Only treatment of symptoms. Millions of people die yearly from influenza with and without health coverage.

you may want socialized medicine but using Ron Paul and the death of his campaign staffer as a straw man to scare people is a dirty tactic.
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he received the care he needed, they still couldn't save his life, do you think that's because he couldn't pay his bill? I give you more credit then that.

You are just going way to far and being straight up evill man, you think Dr. Paul and MD will let healthcare go to hell or something an MD? This topic is even dumber then newletters, absolutely takes the cake...next topic please..
 
Carne Seca

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deprave said:
More YellowCrap:

he received the care he needed, they still couldn't save his life, do you think that's because he couldn't pay his bill? I give you more credit then that.

You are just going way to far and being straight up evill man, you think Dr. Paul and MD will let healthcare go to hell or something an MD? This topic is even dumber then newletters, absolutely takes the cake...next topic please..
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He received care once he reached a critical stage of his illness. He had no insurance and waited until it was too late to seek help. If he had health care (which all candidates supplied to their staff except for Ron Paul), he would have been diagnosed early and treated accordingly. He would have lived.
 
deprave

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Carne Seca said:
He received care once he reached a critical stage of his illness. He had no insurance and waited until it was too late to seek help. If he had health care (which all candidates supplied to their staff except for Ron Paul), he would have been diagnosed early and treated accordingly. He would have lived.
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This is not true at all, he was treated and diagnosed, people don't get refused care because they don't have insurance, that is bullshit.

Also, Regardless of that even.. I am pretty sure the only way you could assuredly have a close to 100% chance of surviving a bad pneumonia is if you went to the doctor every two weeks and got a chest xray and it still wouldn't be close to 100% survival..I had it once and all the sudden I had 105 temperature and was hospitalized for a month. I didn't have insurance, it cost me 3,000$. I could of worked out and got the bill removed or just not paid it but I just paid it.
 
Sure Shot

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UncleBuck said:
you must have worked feverishly to figure out how to use the commands "ctrl+C" and "ctrl+V" in order to post something which in no way refutes what i said.
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That's what I thought, and why I edited it.
Guess you were busy insulting me while I was redrafting, LOL!
Ron Paul is a congressman using the same method in which you depicted earlier.
His first bill had 9 co-sponsors.
Next, he had 10 co-sponsors.
Now, he's up to 22 co-sponsors.
Progress is a process and this is the man making the headway!
My point is Ron Paul is using all the power he has today to loosen the criminal grip on this plant!
Without a doubt Ron Paul will not fund "The Drug War". Just like Obomba's renigged promise,... and money talks.
Feds can't show up if there is no gas in the fuel tank!
Ron Paul will do his best to give the states back their rights. Ron Paul 2012
 
Carne Seca

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deprave said:
This is not true at all, he was treated and diagnosed, people don't get refused care because they don't have insurance, that is bullshit.

Also, Regardless of that even.. I am pretty sure the only way you could assuredly have a close to 100% chance of surviving a bad pneumonia is if you went to the doctor every two weeks and got a chest xray and it still wouldn't be close to 100% survival..I had it once and all the sudden I had 105 temperature and was hospitalized for a month. I didn't have insurance, it cost me 3,000$. I could of worked out and got the bill removed or just not paid it but I just paid it.
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Yes he was diagnosed after he went to the hospital and was admitted. That's where he received the diagnosis. By then he was in critical condition. Because he didn't have health insurance and his premiums were too high due to a preexisting condition. These are facts.
 
deprave

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Carne Seca said:
Yes he was diagnosed after he went to the hospital and was admitted. That's where he received the diagnosis. By then he was in critical condition. Because he didn't have health insurance and his premiums were too high due to a preexisting condition. These are facts.
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It is fact if you remove the part in red.

This isn't an episode of General Hospital, they don't just let you die cause you don't have insurance...pretty sure he probably would of died with our without a plastic card, he was not turned away.

If you turn a patient away from treatment without a realy good reason(insurance not included) you will get your ass sued. Pneomia can develop rapidly and kill you in two weeks. Pneumonia is the sixth leading cause of death in the United States. You can become totally out of it all of the sudden and on your death bed not even thinking enough to call someone or go to the hospital, I have been there. You don't think straight with a 105 temperature you are practically in a coma.
 
Carne Seca

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deprave said:
It is fact if you remove the part in red.

This isn't an episode of General Hospital, they don't just let you die cause you don't have insurance...pretty sure he probably would of died with our without a plastic card, he was not turned away.

If you turn a patient away from treatment without a realy good reason(insurance not included) you will get your ass sued. Pneomia can develop rapidly and kill you in two weeks. Pneumonia is the sixth leading cause of death in the United States. You can become totally out of it all of the sudden and on your death bed not even thinking enough to call someone or go to the hospital, I have been there. You don't think straight with a 105 temperature you are practically in a coma.
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I love how you reinterpret something to fit your agenda. It had nothing to do with what the hospital did or didn't do. I was without health insurance for two years. I got sick with the flu on several occasions and did not go to the doctor or hospital because I had no money. Thank all that's holy I didn't come down with pneumonia during that time. I would have done the same. Waited and hoped I got better on my own. By the time he was taken in, it was too late to save him. Because. He. Had. No. Health. Insurance.
 
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It's all rigged dude. Obama is going to win again and if they keep the senate we're fucked. the good old USA is already starting it's decline, just look at the mentality of the OWS fools.
 
Carne Seca

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YellowSVT said:
It's all rigged dude. Obama is going to win again and if they keep the senate we're fucked. the good old USA is already starting it's decline, just look at the mentality of the OWS fools.
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You mean the middle class? Only fools and Fox News are delusional in their insistence that all Occupy protesters are unwashed, drug using hippies. Whether you wish to believe it or not the Occupy movement is trying to restore equality and equity.
 
tryingtogrow89

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UncleBuck said:
my source predicted the end result of the 2008 election within a half a point or so. your false assertion will not change the long track record of credibility that comes from scientific polling. more lies from you. :sleep:
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You get owned so hard by me that's all you got? calling me a liar? wow your desperation just leaks through your pores, you're all figured out buck. You're just a government indoctrination center drone who has a death clinch on the status quo, you and carne seca belong at the occupy movement cause your on the same brain wave length as those fucking retards. You all read from the same book and drank from the same cup.:roll:
 
tryingtogrow89

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Carne Seca said:
You mean the middle class? Only fools and Fox News are delusional in their insistence that all Occupy protesters are unwashed, drug using hippies. Whether you wish to believe it or not the Occupy movement is trying to restore equality and equity.
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You've somehow figured out what those freaks want? you mind letting us all here know? all i got out of it was something about bigger more involved government and then stealing from the rich and giving to the poor, yeah if that's equality then im chuck norris.
 
Carne Seca

Carne Seca

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tryingtogrow89 said:
You've somehow figured out what those freaks want? you mind letting us all here know? all i got out of it was something about bigger more involved government and then stealing from the rich and giving to the poor, yeah if that's equality then im chuck norris.
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I'm sure that's what you got out of it because that's what the Holy Vaginal Speculum told you to get out of it. UB likes turtles.
 
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