Ron Paul Has A Legit Shot.

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Dan Kone

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he can end the war on drugs effectively without congress.
Maybe. He can certainly do things like reschedule drugs. I'm not sure how he could end it all together without repealing some laws which he would congress for. However I'm not exactly sure. Even to defund the DEA wouldn't that require congress?
 

tryingtogrow89

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I'm sure that's what you got out of it because that's what the Holy Vaginal Speculum told you to get out of it. UB likes turtles.
So is that what the occupy movement is calling themselves now? cause i got my info from the mouth of the vaginal speculum aka occupy wall street. So what else is there to believe?
 

Canna Sylvan

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Then he's not fit to be president.
Obama signed the Patriot act which considers arabs sub-human. It profiles and detains people based on race, culture and dress. So who's the racist and unfit for president? Funniest thing is he complained about not being able to hail a cab in NYC because he was black. All the while he enacts the arab equivalent of Jim Crowe laws. Even if true, what does a news letter do?

Obama by his inaction is pro: torture including water boarding, usa's occupation of the world, tsa molesting children and taking child pornography xrays.

He is all talk. But you bitch about talk which was talk about Paul, and not by him? You Obama ass kissers are the blinded ones. To you Obama can't do wrong. The excuses you come up with are hilarious.

1)He's black and people are racist against him.
2) The republicans hate him due to #1 and block his great deal plans. Even though he didn't do shit his first two years and had a democrat senate and house. The reason, see #1.
3) He didn't lie about federal funds used against medical states. Everyone would use #1 and so he must ignore his promise for the greater good.

Obamites need their heads examined by a doctor.
 

Canna Sylvan

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Obamites are hilarious. Bush's Patriot Act no longer exists. We now gave the Obama Patriot Act he signed. My theory is Obama is so stupid he does nothing but keep the former president's policies enacted, but labels them hope and change versions. Obama is the buggy beta version of Bush 2.0.
 

sync0s

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O'Bama signed the Patriot Act? Really?



Did you just arrive from an alternate universe or something?
Obama did sign the renewal of the Patriot Act, in fact his administration pushed it. He used the media to feverishly persuade Americans into thinking that we would be attacked by terrorists with out it. In fact, Obama not only signed the Patriot Act renewal once, but TWICE in 2009 and 2011. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/promise/180/end-warrantless-wiretaps/

What universe do you live in?
 

sync0s

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[video=youtube;gF3MC-TkpRQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF3MC-TkpRQ&feature=related[/video]
 

Carne Seca

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Obama did sign the renewal of the Patriot Act, in fact his administration pushed it. He used the media to feverishly persuade Americans into thinking that we would be attacked by terrorists with out it. In fact, Obama not only signed the Patriot Act renewal once, but TWICE in 2009 and 2011. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/promise/180/end-warrantless-wiretaps/

What universe do you live in?
The one where Bush and his regime created the Patriot Act. The one you're trying to put all the blame on O'Bama's shoulders.

Oh and just for shits and giggles, how many times did Bush renew the Patriot Act?
 

sync0s

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The one where Bush and his regime created the Patriot Act. The one you're trying to put all the blame on O'Bama's shoulders.

Oh and just for shits and giggles, how many times did Bush renew the Patriot Act?
So, let me get this straight, your argument for how Obama is a better President than Bush is that he continued Bush policies and that should somehow absolve him of responsibility?

Back to your question: Bush signed it into law originally, then renewed all but two provisions of the Patriot Act back into law in 2006. The rest is Obama.

Besides, was it not Obama who promised at least further oversight over the Patriot Act to protect civil liberties? Please refer to the video posted above.

PS: Apparently you have been thrown into defense by accusing me of throwing the Patriot Act fully on Obama's shoulders. I did no such thing and I challenge you to prove otherwise. You lied (perhaps I can naively interpret this lie as ignorance?), I merely corrected you.
 

olylifter420

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Jeez man, you dont need to get all pissy dude!

Im not into politics thats why i asked, if i would have known you were going to be a dick about it, i would have kept it to myself.

(-)rep for you man



QUOTE=Carne Seca;6832420]Yeah, we went over that ad nauseum. Try the search feature and you'll get your answer.[/QUOTE]
 

Parker

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No, I'm someone who looked at the evidence and saw the obvious conclusion. You're refusing to believe it because you think the words of Ron Paul supersede reality.
What evidence?

No. I've seen all the information and have chosen to to believe he is lying, as has most of America.
No you're lying here. His support is getting stronger and no one has ever come forward and said "I've heard him use that language". EVER.

It's not being uninformed to be skeptical about the words of a politician. It's uninformed not to be skeptical.
agreed don't decide until you've looked at all the evidence. Your evidence is "someone said"

Enough with that bullshit already. Just because someone disagrees with you does not mean they are brainwashed. Get over it.
You make things up too much.

Ummm. He published it under his own name. Some of those articles are clearly written by him.
No they're not. You made that up too. Show proof the articles written by Ron Paul at that time, nothing reprinted, came out the same time the racist statement articles came out.

To pretend it's not his newsletter is beyond what is believable.
because you're an idiot. see your next statement for proof.

Why would someone pay to have a newsletter printed in their name and be completely unaware of the content?
He didn't pay them, you idiot. He was just accused of making 1 million dollars in the edited clip shown on CNN.
Ron Paul has always said he had nothing to do with the day to day operation of the newsletter. He was out of politics and practicing medicine. The newsletter had changed hands. He did take a moral responsibility for not paying better attention for something going out in his name.


That makes no sense.
because your facts are off

It's like saying Bill Gates had nothing to do with developing windows.
no it's not that's another thing you made up

But what ever. Keep acting like a cult member if you like. That's up to you.
But what ever. Keep acting like an idiot if you like. If it was up to me, I'd let it be up to you. But we have to many control freaks like yourself who think they can run others lives for them. See that's another thing you lied about you dont want to leave things up to me you want government to make those decisions for me.
 

Dan Kone

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Well, i wouldn't say ANYTHING, but i must agree that on the whole they seem to be fairly well balance imo.
Well, tbh I don't read their articles, so maybe those contain bias, I don't really know, but their statistical data tends to be accurate.
 
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