Scoreboard: “my judges”

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man, the day after the elections, we need to do something to rein in these fucking republican appointed judges, before they have us living in 1929...i'd say getting rid of every one of them that supports getting rid of affirmative action would be a good first days work, you can start on the 5th circuit the next day...
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/30/politics/harvard-unc-supreme-court-affirmative-action/index.html

I have a bad feeling about this one.

cannabineer said:

I have a bad feeling about this one.

A SCOTUS nursing home case could limit the rights of millions of patients

An Indiana man's family sued a state-owned nursing home for alleged mistreatment. A U.S. Supreme Court decision in the case could determine the right of many Americans to sue government agencies.

www.npr.org

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You never know it could go the other way. Is there any big money in nursing homes? They could use their school scam, and try to shut down public nursing homes with these lawsuits so that they can funnel that tax payer money into for profit institutions.

hanimmal said:

You never know it could go the other way. Is there any big money in nursing homes? They could use their school scam, and try to shut down public nursing homes with these lawsuits so that they can funnel that tax payer money into for profit institutions.

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I’ve only heard of the private sort. It’s the usual strategy of spending the least possible per patient. The nurses get used hard; my ex used to do that

a Bushbaby appointee

never in my life have i had anything but respect for those on the supreme court. i thought of them as cool, collected, in charge...they KNEW the law, they KNEW how to interpret it, and didn't hesitate.
and then we got thomas...a fucking pervert, and a cowardly one, never just coming out and saying anything to women, just making lewd suggestions...and i lost a lot of respect for the court. rehnquist started this states right shit that republicans are using to try to legalize gerrymandering and voter suppression. now our court has religious zealots, drunken frat bois, and federalists on it....burn it to the fucking ground and start over, with term limits of ten years...more than long enough to achieve extended goals, not long enough to establish an empire.
https://www.victoriaadvocate.com/justice-kavanaugh-s-holiday-party-appearance-renews-ethics-questions/article_e20614bc-7a7d-11ed-aa02-735856fe23bb.html

Roger A. Shrubber said:

never in my life have i had anything but respect for those on the supreme court. i thought of them as cool, collected, in charge...they KNEW the law, they KNEW how to interpret it, and didn't hesitate.
and then we got thomas...a fucking pervert, and a cowardly one, never just coming out and saying anything to women, just making lewd suggestions...and i lost a lot of respect for the court. rehnquist started this states right shit that republicans are using to try to legalize gerrymandering and voter suppression. now our court has religious zealots, drunken frat bois, and federalists on it....burn it to the fucking ground and start over, with term limits of ten years...more than long enough to achieve extended goals, not long enough to establish an empire.
https://www.victoriaadvocate.com/justice-kavanaugh-s-holiday-party-appearance-renews-ethics-questions/article_e20614bc-7a7d-11ed-aa02-735856fe23bb.html

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I would like something like two full presidential terms (if re-eelected) that way they get at least one president in between, so maybe 16-20 years.

The Democrats were just behind. In rebuilding the party really (from my memory, it could be I am just a bit young to remember the early 80's much) pushing in the 90's onward to represent all of our nation. Doing that meant it was hard to focus on the importance of all the implications that come with party control, like appointing judges, and just as importantly census/district redrawing on state/local levels was not as high on the list of things that needed to get done when put up against little things like the impacts of generations of segregation and all the other forms of legal racism that has been holding back huge portions of our nation's population.

We are now in a struggle to remember this lesson going into 2030 when census comes up again.

cannabineer said:

surrcialist

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was that a typo, for *surrealist? I'm amazed at how intelligent some of you ppl are.
I learn a new word almost every day, tyvm. Not to mention very accurate accounts
of exactly what they're doing to democratic principles and foundations world wide.
This is as scary a time as I can remember. All out civil war seems unavoidable. See
what I mean below:

Roger A. Shrubber said:

they would deserve every bit of it

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They do, but do we all deserve this? Maybe so, for voting for these aholes since Reagan.
For voting for corporate interests that disabled our manufactuaring base, and our
educational system, among other things the GOP has done to stay in power and keep
lobby funding for their campaigns to "win" at any cost. Gotta be a winner, yanno. "USA USA USA!"

doughper said:

was that a typo, for *surrealist? I'm amazed at how intelligent some of you ppl are.
I learn a new word almost every day, tyvm. Not to mention very accurate accounts
of exactly what they're doing to democratic principles and foundations world wide.
This is as scary a time as I can remember. All out civil war seems unavoidable. See
what I mean below:

They do, but do we all deserve this? Maybe so, for voting for these aholes since Reagan.
For voting for corporate interests that disabled our manufactuaring base, and our
educational system, among other things the GOP has done to stay in power and keep
lobby funding for their campaigns to "win" at any cost. Gotta be a winner, yanno. "USA USA USA!"

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it’s this principle at work

doughper said:

was that a typo, for *surrealist? I'm amazed at how intelligent some of you ppl are.
I learn a new word almost every day, tyvm. Not to mention very accurate accounts
of exactly what they're doing to democratic principles and foundations world wide.
This is as scary a time as I can remember. All out civil war seems unavoidable. See
what I mean below:

They do, but do we all deserve this? Maybe so, for voting for these aholes since Reagan.
For voting for corporate interests that disabled our manufactuaring base, and our
educational system, among other things the GOP has done to stay in power and keep
lobby funding for their campaigns to "win" at any cost. Gotta be a winner, yanno. "USA USA USA!"

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bring the all out "civil war"...it's about time to take the trash out to the curb, and stomp on it a few times before they cart it off to the dump, where it belongs.
then it's time to enact some new laws, to stop exactly the kind of shit that's been common place for way the fuck too long. when a wound gets infected, you have to get rid of the infection...you can cut it out, or burn it out, or kill it with chemicals, but the end result is the same.

doughper said:

was that a typo, for *surrealist? I'm amazed at how intelligent some of you ppl are.
I learn a new word almost every day, tyvm. Not to mention very accurate accounts
of exactly what they're doing to democratic principles and foundations world wide.
This is as scary a time as I can remember. All out civil war seems unavoidable. See
what I mean below:

They do, but do we all deserve this? Maybe so, for voting for these aholes since Reagan.
For voting for corporate interests that disabled our manufactuaring base, and our
educational system, among other things the GOP has done to stay in power and keep
lobby funding for their campaigns to "win" at any cost. Gotta be a winner, yanno. "USA USA USA!"

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A more considered response.
I do not think that civil war is inevitable. So far, even if they don’t reach for them, even the most hardbitten alt-fact activists have regular fact available. I see this as an indicator of some resilient health in the body of voters.

Most maga got into their current denier state by having agents of malice repeat certain lies over and over again. For many of them, the best therapy is to put the not-lies next to them with persistence. At some point they might shake themselves and put down the con they adopted as true.

It is a fight for the very patient. Maga agents tied into residual resentment from the actual Civil War! But every day, every year, the guiding lights of that grievance grow fewer.

The key will for now be to pay attention to local and municipal elections, and laboriously hand-weed the propagators of freedom caucus nonsense out. That is more effective and a whole lot less traumatic than total conflict. Exposing those who e. g. stacked the appellate courts is a very good place to put the crowbar at this time. This likely addresses the antirepublican corporate interests you mentioned.

Roger A. Shrubber said:

bring the all out "civil war"...it's about time to take the trash out to the curb, and stomp on it a few times before they cart it off to the dump, where it belongs.
then it's time to enact some new laws, to stop exactly the kind of shit that's been common place for way the fuck too long. when a wound gets infected, you have to get rid of the infection...you can cut it out, or burn it out, or kill it with chemicals, but the end result is the same.

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Looks like we cross-posted. I suggest that open conflict would cause more harm than it would bring resolution. You could not avoid adding momentum to the cores and causes of the libertarians, white homeland types and nation-under-God (as defined by hateful Baptists et al.) militants. It’s better to starve them out with relentless education of their potential membership reservoirs.

Anyway, it’s just a thought.

cannabineer said:

Looks like we cross-posted. I suggest that open conflict would cause more harm than it would bring resolution. You could not avoid adding momentum to the cores and causes of the libertarians, white homeland types and nation-under-God (as defined by hateful Baptists et al.) militants. It’s better to starve them out with relentless education of their potential membership reservoirs.

Anyway, it’s just a thought.

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you either get rid of the infection, or it kills you, piece by piece...
do we have time for a long course of medication? or has it reached the stage where amputation and cauterization are necessary?
we offer differing diagnoses...

Roger A. Shrubber said:

you either get rid of the infection, or it kills you, piece by piece...
do we have time for a long course of medication? or has it reached the stage where amputation and cauterization are necessary?
we offer differing diagnoses...
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yup; we do.

Roger A. Shrubber said:

stop exactly the kind of shit that's been common place for way the fuck too long

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I like the way u talk shrubber, but you scare the hell outta me. See, thing is,
start the war, and it'll never end, and, myself and ppl like me'd be the first victims.
Die for my country, I want the other mofo to die for my country. But you do know,
Roger, that they got ALL the damn guns. How many snowflakes u hear about out
in the woods doing field training? They're always the "rough boys", always the
guys drive trucks, plumbers, carpenters, laborers, that said, they're the ones who're
always employed fer God's sake. So they're rough and ready, and they know it, too.
But, Roger, i sure do appreciate your feeling of having had just about enough of all
their shit. I really do.

doughper said:

I like the way u talk shrubber, but you scare the hell outta me. See, thing is,
start the war, and it'll never end, and, myself and ppl like me'd be the first victims.
Die for my country, I want the other mofo to die for my country. But you do know,
Roger, that they got ALL the damn guns. How many snowflakes u hear about out
in the woods doing field training? They're always the "rough boys", always the
guys drive trucks, plumbers, carpenters, laborers, that said, they're the ones who're
always employed fer God's sake. So they're rough and ready, and they know it, too.
But, Roger, i sure do appreciate your feeling of having had just about enough of all
their shit. I really do.

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“No dumb bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making some other poor dumb bastard die for his country.”
- Gen. George S. Patton

yeah, canna, sheeze, you and the rest in here, phew...smart as hell, alla yas.
For years during Dumbya's admin, i was in political chats in AOL, good lord
you could cut the acrimony with a dull knife. And I kept wondering, "why all
this complete hatred?" Where in the hell was that coming from, and really, it
always seemed to be the right. Dems get mad, kinda like Shrubber, they do, but
the GOP side, seemed to not be able to limit their hatred. It's like you say, canna,
these, "agents of malice" seemed to have taken over, or possessed a lot of the
chatters in AOL political. I was in there for years, and boy, like Shrubber, I'd get
so damn mad, so intolerant of their desire to sacrifice their own well-being for
the cause of...really...nothing more than abject hatred. That was 2 decades past.
Oh, could I see Trump coming, wow.

doughper said:

yeah, canna, sheeze, you and the rest in here, phew...smart as hell, alla yas.
For years during Dumbya's admin, i was in political chats in AOL, good lord
you could cut the acrimony with a dull knife. And I kept wondering, "why all
this complete hatred?" Where in the hell was that coming from, and really, it
always seemed to be the right. Dems get mad, kinda like Shrubber, they do, but
the GOP side, seemed to not be able to limit their hatred. It's like you say, canna,
these, "agents of malice" seemed to have taken over, or possessed a lot of the
chatters in AOL political. I was in there for years, and boy, like Shrubber, I'd get
so damn mad, so intolerant of their desire to sacrifice their own well-being for
the cause of...really...nothing more than abject hatred. That was 2 decades past.
Oh, could I see Trump coming, wow.

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I didn’t see him coming. In fact, it took That Man to get me to really understand Reagan, voodoo economics and the Federalist Society. All in retrospect.

I used to be a Republican. But since perhaps ‘92 I found myself voting for Democrats. To some extent, I moved left. To a much greater extent, the libertarian spoilers of the GOP moved the entire politics of this country sharply to the right. I don’t intend to give Repugs any more oxygen, and I’ve begun to pay attention to the small local races about which I previously could not be bothered. McCarthy started as a little guy, and he earns my especial dislike. So I look at the little guys.