Scoreboard: “my judges”

doughper

Well-Known Member
I didn’t see him coming.
Well, it wasn't Trump himself who I saw coming, but under that bastard, Reagan,
I could see this hatred building. Newt Gingrich, et al, from the right, who taught them
all new words, new jargon for the left. The hatred for the news, the media. "Liberal"
media, they called it. I was a proud lib my whole life, and after about 10 or so years
of hearing "liberal" pronounced like an obscenity, I cringed (cringe) when I heard
{hear) it to this day. It was politics pandering to greed and hatred. Now how hard is
that upon which to build a base? It's so easy, so Hitlerian, Mussolini, easy as falling off
a log. Then came the Bush cartel. I knew we were done for. The court instated that
worthless puke. And so it goes, and I knew Trump, or somebody like that, was just around the corner.

I'd work, manual labor, trades, with guys, who hate taxes, hated the gov. WHY? WTF did
the gov do to you? You're makin' a living, wtf, over. They hated homeless, hated welfare
"queens" as Reaganites began calling them. WHY? You wanna be them? Somebody's gotta
work. Somebody's gotta have some skills and do stuff, and some people do not have those
skills or those jobs. So the answer is what, dig a pit and shovel 'em all in? Then when these
nazi aholes decide they don't need you, and since you know how to dig pits, they'll have
you digging your own damn grave. And they'd vote GOP, every damn time! WHY!!!
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Well, it wasn't Trump himself who I saw coming, but under that bastard, Reagan,
I could see this hatred building. Newt Gingrich, et al, from the right, who taught them
all new words, new jargon for the left. The hatred for the news, the media. "Liberal"
media, they called it. I was a proud lib my whole life, and after about 10 or so years
of hearing "liberal" pronounced like an obscenity, I cringed (cringe) when I heard
{hear) it to this day. It was politics pandering to greed and hatred. Now how hard is
that upon which to build a base? It's so easy, so Hitlerian, Mussolini, easy as falling off
a log. Then came the Bush cartel. I knew we were done for. The court instated that
worthless puke. And so it goes, and I knew Trump, or somebody like that, was just around the corner.

I'd work, manual labor, trades, with guys, who hate taxes, hated the gov. WHY? WTF did
the gov do to you? You're makin' a living, wtf, over. They hated homeless, hated welfare
"queens" as Reaganites began calling them. WHY? You wanna be them? Somebody's gotta
work. Somebody's gotta have some skills and do stuff, and some people do not have those
skills or those jobs. So the answer is what, dig a pit and shovel 'em all in? Then when these
nazi aholes decide they don't need you, and since you know how to dig pits, they'll have
you digging your own damn grave. And they'd vote GOP, every damn time! WHY!!!
Yup, the welfare queen was Reagan’s pandering to systemic racism. No wonder so many Republicans object strenuously to critical race theory. It exposes a primary plank of their ideology.
 

doughper

Well-Known Member
Hate, man. Fear and greed. Gets u elected every damn time, unless, UNLESS
you got an electorate that's informed enough to freakin' KNOW BETTER! So
to appease the corp overlords, PLUS dumb down the electorate, "privatize
education". Remember that movement? For God's sake! And it's gone downhill
from there. :sigh:
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Hate, man. Fear and greed. Gets u elected every damn time, unless, UNLESS
you got an electorate that's informed enough to freakin' KNOW BETTER! So
to appease the corp overlords, PLUS dumb down the electorate, "privatize
education". Remember that movement? For God's sake! And it's gone downhill
from there. :sigh:
Yes; I do. I think that is some of the worst and most lasting damage they did to our society. And they left the lib’ruls holding the bag because their assault on the schools was camouflaged as political correctness. That was quite the judo move.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

Well-Known Member
I like the way u talk shrubber, but you scare the hell outta me. See, thing is,
start the war, and it'll never end, and, myself and ppl like me'd be the first victims.
Die for my country, I want the other mofo to die for my country. But you do know,
Roger, that they got ALL the damn guns. How many snowflakes u hear about out
in the woods doing field training? They're always the "rough boys", always the
guys drive trucks, plumbers, carpenters, laborers, that said, they're the ones who're
always employed fer God's sake. So they're rough and ready, and they know it, too.
But, Roger, i sure do appreciate your feeling of having had just about enough of all
their shit. I really do.
well, here's the thing about that...https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2017/06/22/the-demographics-of-gun-ownership/
conservative/republicans do own more guns than liberal/democrats...but democrats do own guns, and independents own more guns, so if it comes for real, it ain't gonna come easy. the red neck aren't gonna take over like they think they are, they have a lot of armed opposition, AND more of the national guard and armed forces than not. i doubt for all the talk, more than 10% of the national guard would disobey a direct order, and less than that in the regular military. not if the republican forces were the clear aggressors, and they would be.
in reality, i don't want any kind of war, but if they start one, i'll sure as shit try to finish it for them.
 

doughper

Well-Known Member
“No dumb bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making some other poor dumb bastard die for his country.”
- Gen. George S. Patton
Does that appear to be plagiarized? It's such a common saying due to the movie, I never really thought
of it as needing some sort of attribution, so I just stated it, plus I wanted to make the point that
in a civil war, both sides are dying for the same country.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

Well-Known Member
Does that appear to be plagiarized? It's such a common saying due to the movie, I never really thought
of it as needing some sort of attribution, so I just stated it, plus I wanted to make the point that
in a civil war, both sides are dying for the same country.
no, they're not, one side is fighting for freedom from oppression, for truth, to be able to raise their children in a culture that doesn't make teachers alter the truth so that rich old white men can continue lying to themselves, and everyone stupid enough to believe them.
the other side is fighting for the "right" to oppress anyone who doesn't agree with them, for the "right" to deny others anything that makes them uncomfortable, like the truth, like the freedom to express yourself, like the freedom to be whatever makes YOU comfortable. they're fighting for the "right" to teach your children that slavery was ok, and that many slaves appreciated the free ride...
that's not fighting for the same country, that's fighting about the right to tell the simple truth without oppression.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Does that appear to be plagiarized? It's such a common saying due to the movie, I never really thought
of it as needing some sort of attribution, so I just stated it, plus I wanted to make the point that
in a civil war, both sides are dying for the same country.
That didn’t cross my mind! I’ve failed to correctly attribute before, and didn’t like the conscience effects. Not personal.

(add) Nowadays, with Google right there, I look up quotes. Often they are not as I thought I remembered, or I’ve been misattributing them. It’s nice to get them right.
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
no, they're not, one side is fighting for freedom from oppression, for truth, to be able to raise their children in a culture that doesn't make teachers alter the truth so that rich old white men can continue lying to themselves, and everyone stupid enough to believe them.
the other side is fighting for the "right" to oppress anyone who doesn't agree with them, for the "right" to deny others anything that makes them uncomfortable, like the truth, like the freedom to express yourself, like the freedom to be whatever makes YOU comfortable. they're fighting for the "right" to teach your children that slavery was ok, and that many slaves appreciated the free ride...
that's not fighting for the same country, that's fighting about the right to tell the simple truth without oppression.
"They" have no idea what they are "fighting" for. Not one in 50 has read that constitution they claim to revere. I can't count the number of people who claim the constitution contains what they say it does. I've spoken to many who exhibit disbelief when I say I've read the document many times. Others are certain that it was written for lawyers. Some believe it is a thick tome of hundreds of pages.
Many are certain that passages from the Bible are contained within the document.

And of course their knowlege of their own sacred Holy book ends at what they learned in Sunday school.

MTG is not an outlier in this mob of ignorant brutes.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

Well-Known Member
"They" have no idea what they are "fighting" for. Not one in 50 has read that constitution they claim to revere. I can't count the number of people who claim the constitution contains what they say it does. I've spoken to many who exhibit disbelief when I say I've read the document many times. Others are certain that it was written for lawyers. Some believe it is a thick tome of hundreds of pages.
Many are certain that passages from the Bible are contained within the document.

And of course their knowlege of their own sacred Holy book ends at what they learned in Sunday school.

MTG is not an outlier in this mob of ignorant brutes.
i did not mean "they" individually, i meant "they" as a monolithic mob, manipulated by unscrupulous politicians for their own nefarious plans.
i am not a constitutional scholar, but i have read through it a couple of times, and have a basic understanding of it's meaning and intent.
it is not intended for the uses the republicans are trying to pervert it to, and plainly contradicts nearly everything most republicans claim, and entirely everything that "originalist" claim.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
i did not mean "they" individually, i meant "they" as a monolithic mob, manipulated by unscrupulous politicians for their own nefarious plans.
i am not a constitutional scholar, but i have read through it a couple of times, and have a basic understanding of it's meaning and intent.
it is not intended for the uses the republicans are trying to pervert it to, and plainly contradicts nearly everything most republicans claim, and entirely everything that "originalist" claim.
No mob is a monolith.
 

MtRainDog

Well-Known Member
And of course their knowlege of their own sacred Holy book ends at what they learned in Sunday school.
The bible is proof that if you write enough words, they'll eventually come together in a way that can be applied to anything. Even better, restrict access to it by outlawing its translation into common languages of the day. The bible was an easy tool that allowed the ruling class to portend and persuade morons for any purpose. 2000 years later and we're still at it.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
The bible is proof that if you write enough words, they'll eventually come together in a way that can be applied to anything. Even better, restrict access to it by outlawing its translation into common languages of the day. The bible was an easy tool that allowed the ruling class to portend and persuade morons for any purpose. 2000 years later and we're still at it.
Imagining counterexamples to the premise of your first sentence brought me to a delightful daydream about a church and its attendant seminary adopting as their scripture the Manhattan phone book, assuming it is still five inches thick.

On a more serious note, the premise was explored in A Canticle For Leibowitz.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
shameless bump because Kacsmaryk

GOP Rep. Nancy Mace says FDA should ignore judge’s decision blocking abortion pill approval
Rep. Nancy Mace (R-S.C.) on Monday said the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) should ignore a Texas federal judge’s ruling blocking its approval of mifepristone, a pill that can be used to induce abortion in early pregnancy.
The South Carolina Republican joined several Democrats who have called for the Biden administration to ignore the judge’s ruling.

“I agree with ignoring it at this point,” Mace said on CNN Monday when asked how the Biden administration should approach the ruling. “There are other lawsuits that are happening right now and other states as well over this issue.”

U.S. District Judge Matthew Kacsmaryk on Friday issued a stay that said the FDA improperly rushed the approval of mifepristone 23 years ago. The ruling would shut down the prescribing and distribution of the drug as soon as seven days after his decision.

But almost concurrently, a federal judge in Washington issued a competing ruling that blocks the FDA from “altering the status quo and rights as it relates to the availability of Mifepristone” in 17 states and Washington, D.C.

The issue could eventually reach the Supreme Court.
Mace joined Democrats Sen. Ron Wyden (Ore.) and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (N.Y.) who have called for the Biden administration to ignore the Texas ruling.

“President Biden can and must ignore this ruling and keep mifepristone on the market and accessible for every woman in America,” Wyden said in a tweet on Friday.

“The interesting thing when it comes to a ruling is that it relies on enforcement,” Ocasio-Cortez told CNN on Sunday. “And it is up to the Biden administration to enforce, to choose whether or not to enforce a ruling.”

But Rep. Tony Gonzales (R-Texas) took a starkly different stance from Mace on Sunday, floating that House Republicans could defund the FDA if the Biden administration refuses to uphold a court ruling.

“If the administration wants to not live up to this ruling, then we’re going to have a problem … it may come to a point where House Republicans on the appropriation side have to defund FDA programs that don’t make sense,” Gonzales said.

Mace, a survivor of sexual assault, has been outspoken against anti-abortion laws and proposals that would not allow exceptions for women who have been raped and warned that the abortion issue is hurting Republicans electorally.

“This is an issue that Republicans have been largely on the wrong side of, we have over the last nine months not shown compassion towards women … The state of South Carolina just a few weeks ago we had some folks in the state legislature that essentially wanted to execute women who had abortions,” Mace said on CNN Monday. “So, we’ve got some extreme views on this issue, but 90 percent of America is somewhere in the middle. And I think that that 90 percent would be okay with listening to the FDA rather than a judge who used an old law that was determined unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.”

Mace appeared to be referring to the Texas judge’s reliance on the Comstock Act, an 1873 “anti-vice” law that aimed to bar the mailing of contraception and anything that could be used for abortion. The law has been narrowed by the courts and Congress since and has not been enforced in decades. Mace also seemingly referenced a 1983 Supreme Court ruling that said a federal regulation prohibiting mailing unsolicited advertisements for contraceptives was unconstitutional.
 
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