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brwnhornet

brwnhornet

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The articles are food for thought. I particularly like the "Never Ending Abuse" article. It made some valid points. But now more than ever I feel like a Noob. I need to really start paying attention to the girls. One problem is that i have plant in different stages of 12/12 in the same tables simply because of height. This makes it harder to take care of individual needs. I see this is a mistake that must be rectified soon. Damn i am pissed! LOL
 
surphin

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Yeah, it's easier to have all the plants on a table to start 12/12 at the same time. Canopy management is very important to getting the best yields as possible. Even after ten or fifteen years of knowledge and expeirence you still won't be done learning. There will always something else to learn.
 
brwnhornet

brwnhornet

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Well i am off to deal with the mild bug issue. It pops it's head up every few weeks. I still do not know exactly how i will fix the "height" issues in the trays. I will keep you posted. I have a lot to consider. It is supposed to get really hot the next few days. That sux!
 
surphin

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Bug issue's always suck ass, good luck wiht it. You can pinch the stems and kinda lay over the tops to even out the canopy height. You'll have to string them up or something else to support them. It's kinda like supercropping.
 
surphin

surphin

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Yep, if you pinch the stalk to where you hear and feel the inside of the stalk break but the outside is fine. You can then bend over the plant from the point where you pinched it. The stalk will heal and harden up. Look-up supercropping. The outer layer is what transports most of the nutrients up and down the plant, and the center part is more for strength and support. This is a great way to maintain your canopy when growing different strains under the same light, or when you got a plant that is out growing the others.
 
brwnhornet

brwnhornet

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I checked out Supper cropping. Excellent idea. I will add it to the arsenal. Bugs are in check. Everything is still very vibrant since the redo of the res. The half strength use of cal-mag plus has not seemed to hurt at all. When topping off with water i am letting the nuets get a little low. I will see if this might help also. You never know. The TDS is running around 1100. I usually keep em at 1350. A res change is due soon. I do not think this will hurt them. Getting close to another harvest. =)
 
brwnhornet

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Usually if they need it. When it is cold they eat more nuet's. When warm, water. But i have let them get a little lower just to see how they do. So far so good. I will change the res in a couple of days. Is this the wrong idea?
 
surphin

surphin

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Huh, never notice if mine consumed more nutes when its cold out. Guess I'll have to pay more attention. I don't know if it's a bad idea or not. I, myself don't add back nutes, just top off with water as needed.
 
brwnhornet

brwnhornet

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Really? Even if the numbers drop by several hundred? How often do you change your res? I am doing it every 10-14 days.

Also i turned off the two 600 watters in the veg room and replaced them with a set of two t-5's. They have 4 bulbs each. The Hid's were throwing to much heat and the power bill is through the roof with the air running. I am using two blue and two reds in each. Until it cools down and i can turn off the air i will keep them there. I am not sure how much this will effect them. What do you think?

I also traded out a single ballast for a dual. I am hoping this relieves some strain also from the power bill.
 
surphin

surphin

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Mine ppms never really dropped more than 100 - 150, I change my res every 14 days. What kind of bulbs were you using in those 600 for veg? T-5's work good for veg, assuming you're not vegging monsters. It's what I use, except mine is an 8 bulb. I took out 4 bulbs because I don't need them and it saves on heat and electricity.
 
brwnhornet

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I was using M/H conversion bulbs. My babies are anywhere from 4"'s to 9"'s when born. I have been letting them get 16"-18"'s before going 12/12. They sure grow well!
 
surphin

surphin

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You'll dig using those t-5's in veg, that will probably turn out to be a good choice for your OP.
 
brwnhornet

brwnhornet

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Well i sure am glad to hear that about the t-5's. I take it that it does not matter how many are in the area as long as they are all getting light?

Will it take longer for them to get to flowering height?

I have also just realized a fundamental mistake i have been making for the past several months. Upon looking at the Nuet calculator for advanced hydro i see that using the green was a part of the flowering step except for the last 1-2 weeks. I was not using it at all. What a fricking Noob mistake. I have so much going on that i forget to go over the basic's every now and then so as to keep it all fresh. I always have 2-3 stages in the 12/12 at any given time, so i get frazzled. GEEZE! I feel so stupid. It explains some of the symptoms i was having. Not that i wasn't having other problems as well. Reach over and slap me.
 
surphin

surphin

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Not sure if it will take longer for them to get to the hieght you like, compared to a HID. It shouldn't since you can keep the t-5's a few inches away. Yeah and that also explains why the cal/mag+ was helping. Now that you have everything sorted out, I would drop the cal/mag for awhile. Just to make sure.
 
brwnhornet

brwnhornet

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I was thinking the exact same thing. I have been using the minimum dosage. I put it in the last res change. Next one i will omit it and see what gives. I still feel like such a Noob. LOL

So i can put those T-5's right on top of them? Sweet. Consider it done. I had them maybe 8"'s or so.

B.T.W. What is the most humidity i can run in the veg room without slowing them way down?
 
surphin

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I keep mine 6 - 8 inches away until I start seeing new growth and they just seem happy, then I'll move it to around 3 - 6 inches away.

Plants can handle higher humidity in veg. not sure of the exact number though. I think it's somewhere 70 - 80%.
 
brwnhornet

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Nice. Because i cant get it below 70%. I have been pulling my hair out. LOL

Happy plants make me happy. Right now mine seem very happy.

Just got the new wiring done in the other room. SOON!
 
surphin

surphin

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Look at this way, if its never been below 70% in veg before and everything is green, happy and growing, then don't worry about it. Good luck with everything, I think you'll be alright.
 
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