That up to you to decide... there's fire in their packs for sure. I wouldn't drop $450 on a em..its the hype that brought prices up and the fact there not readily available to the public. Also seedjunky's strains have made their way into so many hybrid crosses you can find for2 a fraction of the price. There so many strains with kushmints, icc, and wedding cake in them that you can get. My buddy and I ran there kush mints and ice cream cake years back- think we got the em at $60- $80 a pack. They were very nice strains to phenohunt, had a few herms but it is what it is. The keeper phenos where great, ran em for a lil under a year and moved on to different strains. If you really want a pack and it's has to be seed junky, get them.. but these days you can pick a breeder and most likely you find heaters in there work and you'll only a fraction of what you'd pay for seed junky. Other options I'd check out would be- wyeast farms, cannarado, clearwater, dungeon vault genetics and csi humboldt. Csi would be my pick. Clearwater has seedjunky strains in there crosses, think most of those breeders I listed do.