Should the US shed blood for Ukraine

Should the USA along with NATO defend Ukraine with troops.

  • Yes

    Votes: 40 40.4%

  • No

    Votes: 59 59.6%
  • Total voters
    99
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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djumbir said:
This is how I imagine most of the Yankee commentators on this thread :D

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because she can imagine...accurately, all the pain, fear, hardship, anger, and hate that trump is going to bring with him as president? if i had more empathy i'd still be screaming...he raped the whole country for four years, and people like you held America down for trump to stick his little orange dick into...
 
Mr_X

Mr_X

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jimihendrix1 said:
Its a FACT Trump said that what Putin is doing in Ukraine is Genius.

He said it on a radio program and Tuesday, and many reTHUGliKLANS are distancing themselves for the remark.

You may be in denial of tRumps remark, but it only shows you havent researched the information. Its easily found with a short google.
You can find the radio broadcast. I suggest you look for it.

The Orange Baffon has really put his foot in his mouth this time, along with his white supremacist buddies Cucker Tarlson and Laura Ingraham.

Even Lindsey Grahm doesnt agree with tRump.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said he had breakfast Thursday with Trump at Mar-a-Lago in between a conversation with a top State Department official and calls with Democratic senators to discuss a supplemental appropriations bill that would aid the Ukrainian people. Graham said he wasn’t a fan of Trump’s “genius” comment about Putin.

And tRump saying Putin wouldnt have invaded if he was president is laughable. tRump loves to praise Putin, and suck his dick, especially in public. tRump has defended Putin for the whole 4 years he was in office.

tRump wanted us out of NATO, and withheld 400 MILLION $$$$ of military aid for Ukraine because Zelensky would go along with his Hunter Biden Blackmail Scheme.

Obama wouldnt give Ukraine aid because the former president was a puppet of Putin, and corrupt.

Even Putins puppet Poroschenko has taken up arms in Ukraine AGAINST PUTIN, and says Ukraine will never surrender,, no matter how many missles, tanks, and soldiers Putin sends to Ukraine. And by taking up arms, I mean Literally. IMHO though he has ulterior motives, like trying to become president again. But he is denouncing Putin.

tRump did say Putin was Genius for Putins invasion of Ukraine. A country with a president who won 73% of the vote, and hated the former Russian Puppet.

Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show aired on Feb. 22, 2022.

Trump on Putin invasion plan: ‘This is genius’
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i was joking. triggered LOL
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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ANC said:
the last time you asked yourself a similar thing, Japan bombed the fuck out of your base.
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lulz

similar? You are better than that, or I thought you were.

What part of this don't you understand?

"The president has been very clear that US troops will not be fighting in Ukraine"

Our treasure, our blood, our sons and daughters, our decision, our time, our place.

Another thing that doesn't seem to register.

"This was Putin's decision"

Just trying to keep it real.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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djumbir said:
This is how I imagine most of the Yankee commentators on this thread :D

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Screams like that are a common occurrence in Putin's prisons. Same with the satellite states where Putin's puppets suppress their own populations.

I'd scream like that woman too if somebody took a pair of pliers to my balls.

Still though, I understand where you come from. Followers of autocratic and authoritarian leaders despise weakness. The screams of people under torture is funny to them. Until they have something of value and their leader or underlings want, it that is. Then nothing will protect you. I'll never understand your kind. I can't think that low.
 
AntoMaria7

AntoMaria7

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Sativied said:
You are in a country that is a NATO member, an attack from Russia on your soil is at this point extremely unlikely.

From a CNN article about the same: ”NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said Friday that NATO will “do what it takes” to defend all its allies, including Ukraine, and “every inch of NATO territory,” confirming that the NATO Response Force (NRF) had been activated for the first time in response to Russia’s ongoing invasion of Ukraine. “

NATO Response force is not for anyone who will need it, they are send to NATO members only, which does not include Moldovia. So yeah that certainly is a “new” statement and we’ll have to see where it goes.
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This is also what i think, this is why I said i am safe, i’m reading hundreds of comments from ukrainian people to see if i can accommodate someone that needs it, here in the capital but now only women and children can leave ukraine(and men but not between 18-60 years old).


but the big problem is that every plan is bad. If nato doesn’t do anything we are just watching the evaporation of a suveran country BUT if nato makes a move it will become putin’s perfect pretext for ww3
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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If someone wanted maximum retribution on Russia for fucking over America, Putin just presented his ass on a silver platter. Joe just sanctioned Putin and I'm pretty sure illegal money will start disappearing from secret bank accounts all over the world too. I dunno what will be done about the internet, but I figure there are changes coming to limit Russian access or at least outgoing traffic. It looks like they are gonna give Russia a SWIFT kick in the nuts too, when it is feasible to do so. Confiscate Vlad's money and give a half million bucks to every Ukrainian refugee family who settles in the west! :lol:

This might be over Ukraine, but it serves the purposes of revenge and retribution too. Vlad is gonna need a way out, talks in Minsk I hear, but I don't think while Russian troops are on Ukrainian soil.
 
Friendly_Grower

Friendly_Grower

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DIY-HP-LED said:
If someone wanted maximum retribution on Russia for fucking over America, Putin just presented his ass on a silver platter. Joe just sanctioned Putin and I'm pretty sure illegal money will start disappearing from secret bank accounts all over the world too. I dunno what will be done about the internet, but I figure there are changes coming to limit Russian access or at least outgoing traffic. It looks like they are gonna give Russia a SWIFT kick in the nuts too, when it is feasible to do so. Confiscate Vlad's money and give a half million bucks to every Ukrainian refugee family who settles in the west! :lol:

This might be over Ukraine, but it serves the purposes of revenge and retribution too. Vlad is gonna need a way out, talks in Minsk I hear, but I don't think while Russian troops are on Ukrainian soil.
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I don't know exactly what sanctions are happening but Biden says it is worse for Putin than being thrown out of the SWIFT banking system.
SWIFT is a Euro-Centric trade system so the E.U. and others have a lot to lose if Russia gets the boot. Something like 500 Billion ( something maybe dollars or Euros ) in trade will be lost hurting the world economy.

Putin, I hear, is the richest man on the planet so he wouldn't feel it I hear.
 
Sativied

Sativied

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Interesting piece:

www.ispionline.it

Why a UN Peacekeeping Mission in Ukraine Is Doomed to Fail | ISPI

Leggi l'articolo Why a UN Peacekeeping Mission in Ukraine Is Doomed to Fail sul sito dell'ISPI.
www.ispionline.it www.ispionline.it

In short, Russia proposed UN peacekeeping forces in 2017, between Ukraine and the two new fake republics. Few months later Ukraine countered with a proposal, place UN peacekeeping forces along the border between Ukraine and Russia. Supposedly “the risk of a major war between Russia and Ukraine was assessed as very low”, neither of the proposals were accepted for obvious reasons.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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Friendly_Grower said:
I don't know exactly what sanctions are happening but Biden says it is worse for Putin than being thrown out of the SWIFT banking system.
SWIFT is a Euro-Centric trade system so the E.U. and others have a lot to lose if Russia gets the boot. Something like 500 Billion ( something maybe dollars or Euros ) in trade will be lost hurting the world economy.

Putin, I hear, is the richest man on the planet so he wouldn't feel it I hear.
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it's not about affecting putin's ability to pay for a round of drinks, it's about causing unrest in russia, and making him unable to pay for an extended conflict...it might not ever cost putin 1 ruble, but it'll cost his government billions, billions that he will either have to do without, or cough up himself...
the people of russia will feel it LONG before putin, and they aren't going to be happy suffering for vlad's fantasy empire. they might get unhappy enough to get rid of him the same way they got rid of Rasputin
 
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